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[imy9]

YOU ARE NOT REAL.....HOW MANY GAMES HAVE WE WON SINCE? ANYONE WITH HALF A CLUE ABOUT ROVERS COULD SEE THE SIGNS THEN...DO REMBER JIM ILEY?

You mean the confirmed troll, know him well do you?

Y????????????????? TUGS AND BIG COL????????????

COULDNT BE ANY WORSE?2 footy geniuses

[T4E]

Have there been any post match comments?

[AggyBlue]

Not yet, Ince hasn't come out of the dressing room yet.

Radio Lancs are waiting for him.

[Dan]

I can't agree Abs. We can't take any chances this time, it's got to be someone who has managed a similar club at this level before, or someone with a record for turning clubs around quickly.

I wonder if Allardyce would come in on a 6 month deal, renewable if we stay up at pre-defined terms. Would be perfect in my book.

After the reaction from the fans when he was the favourite to take over, would you come? He knows the fans hate him and his style. Saying that, he maybe like most people in football and come if the right amount of money was waved under his nose.

[Drunx2002]

I don't reckon the board will do anything until after the Wigan game. We'll lose in the cup, then to Liverpool and to Wigan and then he'll be sacked. We just have to hope that it won't be too late by then.

It's clear that we are now in trouble and we're not going to pick up points with such a leaky defence as ours. We're going to have to resort to 4-5-1 and try to keep clean sheets or we will be done for - we simply can't affort the luxury of a second striker.

The level of bickering on this site is appalling these days. It's a forum for discussion about the club we love, not somewhere where people get castigated for different views. I was also in the "back Ince" camp until a couple of weeks ago and now think we need to get shot. I've changed my opinion, and if it makes you feel better that you realised he was rubbish before me then well done. It's really nothing to get agitated about! You don't see people having discussions like this in the pub do you - it's just easier to act like a faceless cretin on the internet.

[T4E]

After the reaction from the fans when he was the favourite to take over, would you come? He knows the fans hate him and his style. Saying that, he maybe like most people in football and come if the right amount of money was waved under his nose.

He would most certainly take the job - the question is whether or board would go there.

[thenodrog]

I think Mr Creosote means that certain people wanted Ince to fail before a ball was kicked.

No doubt you are referring to me amongst others? Let me re-write your statement

"I think Mr Creosote means that certain people knew Ince to fail before a ball was kicked."

I thank you.

[1864roverite]

I can match your 37 years and care just as much as you. From your replies I take that if the new man dosn't meet with your approval he wont be getting your backing either?

Not at all my friend.

I had no issues with Ince and his appointment, I did however have issues with his backroom staff as I have a relatively good grounding in football issues with my nephew and another member of my family who is well to do in football, and that issue was with MATTHIAS who to be quite blunt has never achieved ANYTHING in top flight football.

Whoever comes into this great club will bring experience with them and not the likes of the above named.

Ince has always had my backing but it got to the stage whre I disagreed with his tactics and his team selections. His signings have been nothing more than useless and he has shown nothing to show me, and many others alike, that he is capable of managing BRFC.

We are not a small club in the sense of MK Dons or the like and we have a set of experienced International players who can play football. the problem under Ince is that he is out of his depth and he clearly knows it NOW

[ABBEY]

Not yet, Ince hasn't come out of the dressing room yet.

Radio Lancs are waiting for him.

i hope the fans are waiting for him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

we could set his wife on fire like other teams have done

joke!!!

[imy9]

Course there is. Imy's asked for it, his arguments have been stubborn and obtuse in his increasingly desperate attempts to defend the indefinsible for bloody weeks.

So many people never appear able to say 'sorry I'll hold my hand up, you were right and I've been wrong all along' do they?

Asked for it?

You are the same guy are you not who claimed that Ince had a "learning disability" because he hated the classroom?

Wrong about what? Your line of argument is bizarre, unless you are related to Eileen Drewery and knew 100% that Ince would fail then you failed to give the guy a fair chance, that is certainly not being Pro Rover is it?

[AggyBlue]

and if it makes you feel better that you realised he was rubbish before me then well done. It's really nothing to get agitated about! You don't see people having discussions like this in the pub do you - it's just easier to act like a faceless cretin on the internet.

Some people 'get off' doing it.

[ABBEY]

I The level of bickering on this site is appalling these days. It's a forum for discussion about the club we love, not somewhere where people get castigated for different views. I was also in the "back Ince" camp until a couple of weeks ago and now think we need to get shot. I've changed my opinion, and if it makes you feel better that you realised he was rubbish before me then well done. It's really nothing to get agitated about! You don't see people having discussions like this in the pub do you - it's just easier to act like a faceless cretin on the internet.

course it gets discussed in pubs , workplaces in the street etc.

maybe not in cambridge pubs tho.

[Mr Creosote]

You could and should use any of the following to describe the posters who have been proven completely right in their assessment of the new manager and his team. Intuitive / intelligent / perceptive / canny would all fit but instead you choose to insult by calling them sad pathetic tossers.

I suggest that you can only be looking in a mirror as you write creosote .

I'm prepared to be pulled up about insults by anybody but you.

Anybody could have said a novice manager wont make it but some of us wanted him to succeed for our club's sake whilst others refused to give OUR manager a chance and, motivated by god knows what, ranted on and on about it.

I can quite happily look in the mirror and see the chiselled features of a non tosser with a clear conscience. As somebody who seems delighted at our plight because it allows you the opportunity to gloat you cant do the same.

Tosser.

[imy9]

Bolton owe their Premier League existence to getting rid of Sammy Lee in mid October when his management was not working. There is never too soon a time to get rid of a bad manager. You sound stupid trying to lay blame on others cos you cannot see wood for trees imy.

Ince is an inexperienced manager who was a massive gamble when we took him on, how does that make you a genius Sherlock because you thought he would fail!

Lets try a similar one, Hull will struggle next year to stay in the top division, I will then claim that I am canny, intelligent etc when it happens... hilarious.

[Sysagent]

Posts like this make me want to bang my head against a wall...

I have just stopped!

Time to start throwing immovable objects around now...

[RibbleValleyRover]

Its pointless gloating and arguing between fans who have been pro Ince or those who have been pretty vocal in the negative sense. Opinions do change and people may be wrong or correct. it would be a boring messageboard if every fan had the same views or opinions.

[T4E]

Ince is an inexperienced manager who was a massive gamble when we took him on, how does that make you a genius Sherlock because you thought he would fail!

Thats not the point. Some posters saw bad signs and posted their thoughts. They were mostly shouted down over it. Then they saw more bad, posted their thoughts, and were shouted down again, but by slightly fewer people. This has continued to happen until we get to this stage, where all the original fears that were mentioned and drew abuse have proven to be 100% correct, and almost everyone to a man has begun to agree with what the minority said very early on - Ince is not up to it. Whats the problem?

[ABBEY]

a non tosser .

Tosser.

now then lets see if things are equal on this board......i got a warning of 50% for using this word...its been used twice so it should be a ban...no offence to you mr c ,just seeing if things are on a level playing field on here thats all.

[bigbrandjohn]

Funny old game Football. Derbyshire goal is allowed ,we go on to win 3-2 after being 2 down and the guys travel back with a renewed sense of purpose and maybe start to believe in themselves, and the results come pushing us into mid table. Sadly this is not the case and we are where we are.

So lets say Ince goes tomorrow,what is the process for turning around our season on a sixpence. We do not have the luxury of Spurs who fixed it in a weekend by handsomely compensating Pompey, we have to wait. We dont even have a back up to manage the interim. The process may take weeks and who is realistically available who was not available at the beginning of the season who will hit the ground running. Remember Sam ruled himself out before we did and there is no cast iron cert sitting out there guaranteed to get some of our "stars" to do the basics right,not even Shearer. Who wants to come to a bottom three club when the they didnt want to come to a top 10 club.We will also have to pay out Ince which will be transfer money out the window.

The club needs a game plan and the only question the Chairman needs to answer is do I trust Ince with the transfer money more than I do someone I dont know who may not even want to come to the club.

I agree we are in a dire position I just dont think that Ince out is as simple as people make out.

[1864roverite]

Its pointless gloating and arguing between fans who have been pro Ince or those who have been pretty vocal in the negative sense. Opinions do change and people may be wrong or correct. it would be a boring messageboard if every fan had the same views or opinions.

Now we all agree that Ince is out of his depth is this now us classed as being a boring set of fans on a mb ?

[dopper69]

Dont stop there. Explain please, and then put forward your own choice.

I assume that you are in favour of his appointment then? Again, I do not feel that BFS is the right man to take Blackburn Rovers forward for several reasons;

1 - I do not like his style of play. My personal opinion.

2 - I dont think he has the character to recruit quality players on Rovers wage structure.

3 - The whole 'bung' situation a few years ago worries me

4 - The possible return of Kevin Davies

5 - His stint at Newcastle didn't entirley fill me with confidence

I have no idea who I would appoint to be honest. Now perhaps you could enlighten me as to why BFS is the right choice to Rovers?

[tony gale's mic]

Anybody could have said a novice manager wont make it but some of us wanted him to succeed for our club's sake whilst others refused to give OUR manager a chance and, motivated by god knows what, ranted on and on about it.

Come on this is bullsh!t too though, it was frankly insulting to anyone to imply we wanted him to fail. Yes there were lots of us unhappy with the appointment but fact is Ince gave us plenty to complain about from the very start of his reign. People were complaining vehemently even before a ball was kicked but with good reason: Fowler, Andrews, the dodgy backroom staff, not signing a replacement for Bentley, the worryingly dense interviews etc etc... I would say most people were prepared to give him a chance and did, but when someone comes in and makes a succession of awful decisions before a ball is kicked then you can't blame people for being very worried.

This bickering needs to stop as its not helping anything, but until you and a select group of forum members drop the ridiculous accusation that some of us wanted him to fail then it isn't going to.

[imy9]

Thats not the point. Some posters saw bad signs and posted their thoughts. They were mostly shouted down over it. Then they saw more bad, posted their thoughts, and were shouted down again, but by slightly fewer people. This has continued to happen until we get to this stage, where all the original fears that were mentioned and drew abuse have proven to be 100% correct, and almost everyone to a man has begun to agree with what the minority said very early on - Ince is not up to it. Whats the problem?

Some posters believed stories from The Daily Mail when they were incorrect.

Some posters openly admitted their hatred for Ince.

I think you will find Tugs that the only people shouted down were/are the people who wanted Ince to succeed, dont believe me check out the Ince threads.

Realising someone is a mistake AFTER they have been given a FAIR chance is different to not backing and supporting him before that IMO.

[Iceman]

i wish ince would just shut the (Please don't use that word again) up and ###### get lost. where the (Please don't use that word again) is JW and why the (Please don't use that word again) is he so quiet. no more excuses, enough is enough now.

[1864roverite]

If ANY supporter, or indeed footballer needed an example of when a team is in it together they shoudl take a look at the reaction of the Arsenal players as they leave the pitch at Stamford Bridge.

That is TOGETHERNESS

That is THE WILL TO WIN

That is EFFORT

That is HOW TO DEFEND and FIGHT

Please BRFC show the video to our manager and team