[Archived] Paul Ince Gone

[Kremmin]

Bring back Tony Parkes ...

Anyone ... just get rid of Ince!

Even a rudderless ship still afloat is better than this sinking vessel with the Guvnor at the wheel.

[TAFKAP]

I vehemently think we should back Incey.

[dingles staying down 4ever]

I see Mr Holt and Lewis from the Mirror have voted then. Who else could vote for keeping Ince.

[Nate]

I was prepared to give him a bit more time, but after yesterdays debacle, no chance.

[yellowsubmarine]

Ince has too much pride to resign, the board should just sack him and send him far away back to where he belongs - the lower leagues.

I love to see him succeed but he's just not producing results at all. He's ruining the club i love.

[deloreanwfn]

I'm a rovers fan from Hong Kong. I don't post oftenly because my English is not good enough. But I want Ince out now! JW, what're you waiting for? If he is still there at the Stoke game, all my friends and I will stop supporting rovers (I love rovers but I felt so depressed after watching the matches and I was sad for the whole week)until he goes.

INCE OUT!!!!!!!!!

[Iceman]

Not good enough JW! Get your bloody act together and fire Ince immediately.

[West Aussie]

I've held my tong for too long, Ince must be sacked now.

[RoversSG]

I don't see what excuse JW can give for not sacking Ince now.

If the board don't have the balls to admit that they were wrong and sack him now, the entire board deserves to be changed.

We simply can't afford to wait till Christmas. How likely is it that we will pick up more points at the rate we're playing!

SACK INCE NOW!

[Bobby G]

Which 3 muppets voted for him to stay...

[neekoy]

Why is this even being debated anymore, seriously.

It is obvious the three people that voted are Ince, Fowler and Andrews.

[Ninjathunder]

The board must act now and get rid. I've been waiting to see if he could turn it around and I honestly thought we would see more from the team following last Saturday's performance but this a team without a clue. The realisation that I would love to see Souness back merely serves to show how utterly desperate and bleak the situation is.

[Bobby G]

Was it the Daily Mail that said Shearer is a front-runner!? I would be shocked if he was approached and if approached us then he would have alot of balls and would have to swallow his pride too. Cant see it. Dont think I want him. Would prefer Big Sam and possibly Souness too...

[The Prof.]

[quote name='jim mk2' date='Dec 14 2008, 00:33 ' post='706940'

Seven hours since the final whistle and still no announcement. Beggars belief.

Hi Jim

There's no way any announcement will be made until Monday at the earliest, if then!

I think he's getting the Stoke game but the lack of a replacement is the real concern. No-one wants to come.

[oozy]

Why is this even being debated anymore, seriously.

It is obvious the three people that voted are Ince, Fowler and Andrews.

And im sure any more votes for Ince will be all his mates in the media...and Winterburn, Mathias and the rest of his coaching staff

[The Prof.]

Taken from trustees thread - thought it would be better here. Phillipl thinks we're on for a big profit this year which means the trustees have made there mind up I think because:

We sell Roque - if

a. that hasn't already been done £15m

b. If anyone will have him

add a couple of others if anyones worth anything. should net £10m (???)

Sell some of the property assets.

top the -£3m pa subsidy - say for 3 years = £9ml

-£15m the squad will need to keep up or come back

- Selling the club fee and hassle

+ this years profit

AND YOU HAVE MORE THAN THE NET £40m YOU WANTED FOR THE CLUB ANYWAY! JOB DONE - NO WORK! TRUSTEES COME AWAY SMILING BY DOING ZILCH

AND YOU STILL OWN THE FIXED ASSETS SO ANOTHER FUTURE £60m for land etc when the price goes up- BRILLIANT

- IT SMELLS BUT IS A NO BRAINER FINANCIALLY.

[oozy]

I hope those in a position of power on this board can get the results of this poll to JW or someone who matters at the club

[robborover]

Can we go back to fouling our way to victory? At the moment we hardly get close to the ball. Pretty football is for girls like Arsenal.

Bye bye Ince, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[philipl]

Seeing as last week, the Board did not think there was a groundswell of opinion in favour of a change of management, it might be an idea to write to the club.

[Paul Mellelieu]

Considering the teams immediately above us and our points tally, I think we are as good as relegated, whoever comes in. But we need a change.

[Beta Ray Bill]

The most blatant errors in our very imbalanced squad:

NO RIGHT WINGER: Bentley wasn't replaced in the summer, which lead to our only competent right-back Emerton playing the right wing and the very slow Ooijer, who should be able to take a place as a center back, holds he right back position. The domino effect at it's worst.

NO CENTRAL MIDFIELD: Playing a 4-4-2 almost always demands one of the central midfielders to lay deep, almost in front of the back line to start the play with simple forward passes and help out the defence. the other central midfielder should be a more offensive running player who works from player to player in the defensive play when the opponents have the ball. Andrews is not competent enough to mask Tugays defensive flaws (Savage was) when Tugs play in front of the defensive line, and therefore our central midfield gets run trough every game. Grella (in front of the defensive line) and Dunn (attacking runs) should be our best pairing right now, but the fact that Dunn will soon be inured again and Grella probably needs a month or more to learn how to fit into English football makes the central midfield look like a bitter, black hole... Definitely our weakest part of the team.

NO COMPETITION FOR LEFT WINGER: Gamst Pedersen has been steadily declining over almost 2 years, and still he walks into the starting 11 every week since he has no competition. This gives him less motivation to sort out his game. Treacy is no serious option and Gamst knows this, he will continue to be below par until he gets decent competition.

In other words I think we dug our own grave in this summers transfer window. Time and energy was spent on other things than the essential right wing spot. Ince often makes the right choices in his starting lineups and gives player the chance to impress more than other managers, i'ts his miserable dealings in the transfer window that will condemn us, if anything.

If i were to decie, I think we should go back to a very simple 4-5-1 formation with to central midfielders in front of the defensive line, hopefully they can disguise eachothers shortcomings enough for us to be defensively solid... Rant over!

Add to that two genuinely talented strikers who semingly can't be bothered at the moment (admittedly one has been that way for 18 months), another who has the ball control of a eunuch, and the other whilst totally committed to the cause, is way short of being a week-in-week-out Premiership striker.

I don't think we have the resources or general talent depth to turn it around and avoid the Big R, but changing Ince might give us a slim chance. Continuing on this path and we'll be down by Easter.

Ince was not my first choice - not by a long way- but I thought he'd do Ok and we'd have a year of uninspiring mid-table mediocrity as he shaped the club into what he wanted. I take no pleasure in wanting to see him go so early in the season (and there definitely people on here that do) but there's no way we can survive if he survives another week.

[Nelsonfan]

It's wierd. I was angry at 3:15pm today, but feel completely defeated and numb now. I simply can't be bothered ranting about the obvious inadequacies of Ince, Winterburn and the rest of the coaching staff - it is literally like banging my head against a brick wall. We showed some spirit in a heavy home defeat to the leaders and all the signs coming from the club this week were of solidarity. "The players are behind the manager" we were told. Well......if that is all true and that was really the best that the players and staff can do, we are relegated.

I think that's the numb, defeated feeling....relegation. I think the rot runs deep, it's in the players, management set-up, the dithering board and simply sacking Ince and scrabbling around for another manager may not be enough. There is already a gap of 5 points to safety with an apalling goals against column which effectively makes it 6 points. That is TWO wins. Not only that, it is TWO wins AND the teams above the relegation zone losing those two fixtures. We havent won for 11 games, and all those clubs ARE winning.

Rocket science it is not!

Sums up how I'm feeling today. I just feel numb and resigned to it all right now.

I wanted to give Ince a chance at the beginning and didn't think he was a bad choice overall - now I just want him gone.

[philipl]

Ince to carry on fighting- even the BBC described the Rovers as putting in an abject performance

Some glamorous names here:

Former Inter Milan boss Roberto Mancini is top of Sunderland's managerial short-list. (Express)

Former Real Madrid coach Bernd Schuster and former Barcelona chief Louis van Gaal are also in the frame. (Times)

Rovers should just sack Ince and see who applies. We might be surprised.

[Ninjathunder]

Ince to carry on fighting- even the BBC described the Rovers as putting in an abject performance

Some glamorous names here:

Former Inter Milan boss Roberto Mancini is top of Sunderland's managerial short-list. (Express)

Former Real Madrid coach Bernd Schuster and former Barcelona chief Louis van Gaal are also in the frame. (Times)

Rovers should just sack Ince and see who applies. We might be surprised.

Though we're now in a position where those who may have applied had the board acted after the Sunderland game may not want to throw their hat in the the ring.

[tcj_jones]

Without the search feature I cannot locate the old Dunn thread, but does anybody else feel that Ince, knowing that his job was riding on the Wigan and Stoke games, rushed Dunny back to first team football when he hadn't fully recovered?

Everything I've heard has suggested that he wouldn't be involved in first team duties until January. Suddenly he appears on the bench for this crucial game and plays a whole 45 minutes? Without meaning to go over the top here, a fit Dunn is one of very few things in our favour for surviving this season. If that muppet rushes him back, and he gets injured again, I don't feel as though we will survive this season. Actually, I feel that already, but at least he'd give us a fighting chance. Maybe I'm being paranoid, but don't criticise that I'm looking for things to blame Ince for, I could write for days on that topic already!