Bobby G Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 I think people forget that Ince had the whole of July and August to bring in his own players. Thats the one BS which I dont like hearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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broadsword Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 If he doesn't learn from the whole experience, then the next job will probably be his last. League 2 is round his level just now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majiball Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 If he doesn't learn from the whole experience, then the next job will probably be his last. Given he's bleating in the papers again you have to feel he won't (learn). Unless the man sees a problem within it will always be outside. Get used to washing those dishes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T4E Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Arggghh someone gag this ###### idiot. Brad wanted to move and Ince wanted him to stay, Bentley didn't like the training, the club should have backed him in public, we were 7th after 6 or 7 games. So ###### what?! THICK AS PIG ######. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyIvan Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Arggghh someone gag this ###### idiot. Brad wanted to move and Ince wanted him to stay, Bentley didn't like the training, the club should have backed him in public, we were 7th after 6 or 7 games. So ###### what?! THICK AS PIG ######. He has gone and I for one am glad. I don't honestly care what he says or writes now because he is making himself look more and more foolish. 5 or 6 more games and we would have been relegated for certain. If there were a global 'Ignore' button on Ince I would be pressing it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T4E Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Well said Ivan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Maybe Ince should take a look at how Clough has gone about learning the trade! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broadsword Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Too arrogant. I'll take my hat off to him if he turns it round and becomes a top boss. But right now, my money is on him screwing up again at a Championship or League 1 side, and never being heard of as a manager again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony gale's mic Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Had he left under normal circumstances I'd want him to succeed. But when he quite clearly got his media pals to sling all sorts of mud at us for doing the right thing and getting rid of him, he can go burn as far as I'm concerned. Will love to see him fail in his next job and think it's odds on he will, unless he's back down in League One. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipl Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 This wanting to bring his own people in is wierd- he had a completely blank sheet for the backroom staff and made a total mess of the two most appointments. As for the playing side, he presumably wanted to replace a squad that had just come 7th and at the moment is doing ok for Sam, thank you. odd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Our squad does need to have a lot of changes made to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accyrover Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Ince is blaming everyone but himself. The self-styled 'Guvnor' seems unwilling to even hint that he may have had something to do with Rovers dramatic fall down the table. The Guvnor clearly hasn't got the balls to be a premiership manager. This is the guy, remember, who refused to take a penalty in the 1996 European championship semi final against Germany, instead leaving Gareth Southgate to carry the can when was clearly a less suitable candidate for such an important moment in English football. Ince made atrocious backroom appointments, bought less than impressive players, played players out of position and alledgedly didnt turn up for training. When he did bother to turn up for training, he alledgedly (according to some newspaper articles) crunched into tackles with players in practice matches and, such was his ferocity of tackling, that they had to be helped off the pitch by fellow players as they couldn't walk. This is clearly a man living on some urban myth legend of a reputation who blames the board for not publically backing him ! 3 wins in 17 games does not warrent a public backing. Good riddence to bad rubbish, and I really wish he'd shut his self pitying gob. I'm disgusted. Accyrover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amo Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 What an idiot. Five or six games and we could have been as good as relegated. He said we were showing potential in the Liverpool game (despite a 3-1 defeat) but conveniently forgets we got stoked 3-0 by Wigan the following week. The guy is arrogant to the point of stupidity. We saw that for ourselves when he refused to take responsibility for our downfall, and is continuing to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue n White Rover Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Ince is blaming everyone but himself. The self-styled 'Guvnor' seems unwilling to even hint that he may have had something to do with Rovers dramatic fall down the table. The Guvnor clearly hasn't got the balls to be a premiership manager. This is the guy, remember, who refused to take a penalty in the 1996 European championship semi final against Germany, instead leaving Gareth Southgate to carry the can when was clearly a less suitable candidate for such an important moment in English football. Ince made atrocious backroom appointments, bought less than impressive players, played players out of position and alledgedly didnt turn up for training. When he did bother to turn up for training, he alledgedly (according to some newspaper articles) crunched into tackles with players in practice matches and, such was his ferocity of tackling, that they had to be helped off the pitch by fellow players as they couldn't walk. This is clearly a man living on some urban myth legend of a reputation who blames the board for not publically backing him ! 3 wins in 17 games does not warrent a public backing. Good riddence to bad rubbish, and I really wish he'd shut his self pitying gob. I'm disgusted. Accyrover. Ince has took the blame for the whole downturn in Rovers' Season!! In one way Incey was right that we didn't give him enough time, because who knows he might have turned it around after the Wigan game. But on the other hand, he could have F**** everything up and left us in a real puddle. Saying that, we all know Ince has some very good ideas, we played some really good football under him, this passing was slick and good movement in the first few games. This all seemed to disappear after the 1st 7/8 games. He needs time at a Championship club and needs a more quality backroom staff. No doubt he will become a top manager in the future. He tried his best for Rovers and it wasn't good enough. Good Luck to the guy in the future, he's battled all his career and he'll battle through this. About time Rovers fans gave up slaughtering the guy, and moved on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imy9 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Right I do not wish to slaughter the guy and I dont care where he goes as he has no links to Rovers anymore BUT having just witnessed the interview he gave to Skysports I have to make a comment: Ince has said that after the Liverpool game he felt that it gave his team confidence- result 3-1 LOSS at HOME. He then said at the time that "judge me against the team around us" (please correct me if I am wrong), we get beat 3-0 against Wigan and what is Ince's comment in the interview?? "I always felt that Stoke at home was the game to win", unbelieveable. If Ince is EVER to manage in the top flight he needs to reflect on his own dire performances and not blame the board or anyone else. I am sick to death of listening to moaning and griping from Ince, it is highlighted even more when you listen to the authority that Big Sam has. Me backing or not backing Ince would have made little difference then or now, I only wish JW had not hired Ince in the first place, it was an incredible gamble, hopefully Big Sam can turn us around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presty On Tour Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Ince is clearly a complete retard, I've got more hate for him than I have for Kidd. Even though Kidd got us relegated, at least he signed a certain Matt Jansen! Ince should go back to school to get his coaching badges and should also participate in some English classes while he's at it. The fact he doesn't understand that it's his fault he failed as Rovers boss for a number of unprofessional reasons, skills or basic man management indicates what a moron he is. He's trying to save face and get another job with those remarks. I for one hope he does get one, gets screwed and fails miserably! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroom DE. Posted January 9, 2009 Backroom Share Posted January 9, 2009 Ince has said that after the Liverpool game he felt that it gave his team confidence- result 3-1 LOSS at HOME. I never understood that, even at the time. How can a 3-1 loss inspire confidence? Okay, we may have played well, but it was still a big 0 points and the usual errors costing us. That comment and "you've gotta laugh" after our 3-0 drubbing at Wigan is enough for anyone to see he's not ready to be anywhere near a Premier League club. He must have given a hell of an interview in the summer, because otherwise I have no idea how he got anywhere near our club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
den Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 I never understood that, even at the time. How can a 3-1 loss inspire confidence? Because there wasn't a fans backlash - which the club were expecting. Muddled thinking, which seems to be a way of life down at Ewood these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob fleming Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Because there wasn't a fans backlash - which the club were expecting. Muddled thinking, which seems to be a way of life down at Ewood these days. What did the club actually expect that day? Liverpool at home. Even when we've been on top of our game in recent years we could still quite easily lose that game - and there's no shame in that. Give us their budget and it could be different of course. The performance wasn't that bad, there was effort - which I think the fans noted. No need to boo that day. If the club used that as some sort of barometer as to the general fan opinion of how things were going then the mind boggles. The 2nd half against Sunderland was probably the key indicator. For me that was the end. Time to go. But of course Paul needed more time, what with him being a young English manager and someone that the press and many of the ex-player TV "experts" had a lot of time for. So we held on and lost a few more games. Good on us eh? Let's see where Paul Ince turns up next. Someone will take him on. Ex-England international after all, and Man U and Inter. This was our Chris Waddle moment (how I laughed at burnley at the time). Maybe he has learnt from his Rovers experience? Maybe he can go on and become a success. I'll not be backing him. The fact that he blames the Board for not giving him more time does him no favours whatsoever. Is he honestly being serious? What an absolute clown. And now here we are - only two points behind the pack instead of five and with a manager who gives the impression that he knows what he's about and what he's doing. Someone we can believe in. Which is a lot more than Ince ever had. That's probably half the battle. I certainly believe we can and will turn it around. I get the impression that the players do as well - which is even more important! It won't be easy tomorrow, if we lose we'll not be out of it. It won't help of course but we'll still have a chance, More so without Paul Ince. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1864roverite Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 I have no comment to make, the evidence is there for ALL to see with exception of Mr Ince himself. Sorry Paul, but you F££££d our club big style and you made ALL the mistakes. Premiership ???? You my son, are having it large Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majiball Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Nicko can you ask Coyle to leave his mark on Ince. Ince V Coyle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Castell Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Ince is blaming everyone but himself. The self-styled 'Guvnor' seems unwilling to even hint that he may have had something to do with Rovers dramatic fall down the table. The Guvnor clearly hasn't got the balls to be a premiership manager. This is the guy, remember, who refused to take a penalty in the 1996 European championship semi final against Germany, instead leaving Gareth Southgate to carry the can when was clearly a less suitable candidate for such an important moment in English football. Ince made atrocious backroom appointments, bought less than impressive players, played players out of position and alledgedly didnt turn up for training. When he did bother to turn up for training, he alledgedly (according to some newspaper articles) crunched into tackles with players in practice matches and, such was his ferocity of tackling, that they had to be helped off the pitch by fellow players as they couldn't walk. This is clearly a man living on some urban myth legend of a reputation who blames the board for not publically backing him ! 3 wins in 17 games does not warrent a public backing. Good riddence to bad rubbish, and I really wish he'd shut his self pitying gob. I'm disgusted. Accyrover. It is typical Ince behaviour. Play the tough guy and then make excuses anot take responsibility when you are found wanting. Ince seems the sort of person that would act all tough and push other kids around the playground, but would run to the teacher if someone fought back. I admit to being quite happy at his appointment, as I thought management may have matured him, and he may have been able to make the step up. However, history tells us that he was the same arrogant, spineless, pig headed fool he was in his playing days. I pity the team that next employs him, as I can see him going the same way as Gary McCallister-starts off looking promising, is out of the game after being sacked,and then returns a few years later as a crap manager. Ince had his own people in, a squad that was more or less the same that finished 7th, and a board known for giving people a chance. He blew it, and if he can't accept it or see it, then he is clearly not cut out for management. You have to aknowledge mistakes in order to avoid them. No doubt his tame journos will give him the space to air his grievences or subtley link him to every job going. Personally, I'd like him to go to Burnley if/when Coyle moves to a Premiership club. Talk about mixed emotions for the dingles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Just hearing/seeing his name makes me cringe these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipl Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Just going back to the Liverpool game, the Rovers crowd failed abysmally when faced with that second half capitulation, so accustomed they had become to the utter rubbish Ince had been serving up that they let him off because there had been a semi-adequate first half display. If the crowd had done the decent thing and demanded Ince's head then, he would have been sacked immediately and the chances are we would be half way through a Carling Cup semi-final and not be in a relegation place now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Just going back to the Liverpool game, the Rovers crowd failed abysmally when faced with that second half capitulation, so accustomed they had become to the utter rubbish Ince had been serving up that they let him off because there had been a semi-adequate first half display. If the crowd had done the decent thing and demanded Ince's head then, he would have been sacked immediately and the chances are we would be half way through a Carling Cup semi-final and not be in a relegation place now. The abysmal failure of a crowd, of which I am one, was supporting the team, not Ince. This was based on the fact that in the first half the team were giving it a go and deserved some backing from their own fans. If it had been known that a negative reaction would have seen Ince removed from his position then I'm sure it would have been a different story - probably more akin to the reaction at Wigan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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