[Archived] Paul Ince Gone

[broadsword]

Hang on Andy, why is that directed at me? You've not even quoted me.

I didn't say anything about him wanting more time, I was talking about other people wanting to give him time.

[Majiball]

did you actually watch the full interview on skysports bryan?

he very clearly said that he accepted full responsibility for rovers being at the bottom of the table. that the buck stops with him.

of course he's going to ask for more time, because he believed he could turn things around.

Firstly I'm not Bryan.

So he accepted responsibility I'm so glad he figured it out. However I still remember the numerous times previous that he blamed all and sundry bar himself. However one good act always makes up for all evils.

Paul Ince couldn't turn a car round in an empty field.

He needs to sit down and decide if he's serious about being a top flight football manager and if so going and learning/acquiring the relevant skills as he has been found wanting.

Given that it has taken him about a month of soul searching/public ranting to figure out he had to take some of the blame for our complete and abject collapse from grace, I would suggest he may struggle.

The main points I Remember about him:

1. We have no money they won't back me - You knew that when you took the job so its your own fault! stop moaning.

2. Players aren't good enough - Given we are now undefeated in four with two wins and two draws I suggest they are good enough.

3. Your all out to get me (journo's) - Time to see a shrink, buckling under pressure just what we need.

4. Warm-up at Wigan - Worst warm-up I have ever seen in professional football, every coach I have told has ###### themselves about it. I said it then I'll say it again if thats the warm-up how bad and I mean bad is the training????

5. Every single piece of work done by the club in the last 4 years has been for nothing.

I would like to hang out there that perhaps someone had a word with him and explained that he was the man in charge? That he called all the shots? Perhaps thats where he went wrong? he must have thought someone else was the manager?

It would seem it has taken him 24 months of management to figure out "the buck stops with me".

I will forgive him when he holds his hands up says "My bad I was the main factor in our demise, and for that I am sorry. I was not up to the job and so here's your several million pounds back which I do not deserve"

Then I'll forgive him.

[broadsword]

Paul Ince couldn't turn a car round in an empty field.

Maybe Ray could help him out?

"You've bloody stalled it! Now get out of the motor and gimme twenneh! I wanna see that chest hit the dirt, you primeval piece of amphibian ****!"

[DeadlyDirk]

Can we just say that with all due respect to Allardyce and I hope he does well and gets us out of this mess but its too early to suggest that he is going to be some hero and do amazing things compared to Ince. Managers usually have some degree of success when they first join the club.

Now I happily admit under Ince we were on the slide and doing very poorly but don't forget we were unbeaten after 3 games under him, then lost 2 (1 of them being Arsenal) then won 3 on the trot, 2 being clean sheets.

There was some good points to Ince's reign, it's just very easy to forget them all when your on a little unbeaten run.

[waggy]

I will blame Allardyce is we go down. Definitely.

He has more games to turn it around, is more experienced and has had nearly a year off to be scouting players.

I wouldn't call for his head though, he would probably be the best person to get us back up. His first season would still have to be called a failure though.

i would be calling for his head

[Kelbo]

Can we just say that with all due respect to Allardyce and I hope he does well and gets us out of this mess but its too early to suggest that he is going to be some hero and do amazing things compared to Ince. Managers usually have some degree of success when they first join the club.

Now I happily admit under Ince we were on the slide and doing very poorly but don't forget we were unbeaten after 3 games under him, then lost 2 (1 of them being Arsenal) then won 3 on the trot, 2 being clean sheets.

There was some good points to Ince's reign, it's just very easy to forget them all when your on a little unbeaten run.

I think one thing escapes you, organisation!!

The team wasnt organised

The squad wasnt organised

The training wasnt organised

The backroom staff werent organised

It is Now!!!

Tactically Paul Ince was extremely poor and never had a game plan, never had a plan when he came to Rovers and never planned his backroom team properly before he joined.

If Sam gets us out of this mess he will have been a godsend, Ince took over a team on equal points to the rest of the league,

Sam took us on 5 oor six points adrift and if it had have gone another week as things panned out, it would have been 8 and curtains for Rovers!!!

[DeadlyDirk]

I think one thing escapes you, organisation!!

The team wasnt organised

The squad wasnt organised

The training wasnt organised

The backroom staff werent organised

It is Now!!!

Tactically Paul Ince was extremely poor and never had a game plan, never had a plan when he came to Rovers and never planned his backroom team properly before he joined.

If Sam gets us out of this mess he will have been a godsend, Ince took over a team on equal points to the rest of the league,

Sam took us on 5 oor six points adrift and if it had have gone another week as things panned out, it would have been 8 and curtains for Rovers!!!

I'm not saying Ince was good for us but he did start well and did a few decent things for the club, its far to early to suggest that we have turned a corner and BFS is some kind of saviour, lets wait and see.

How do you get a chance to plan your backroom team before you join? That's something he would have to discuss with the club, the people he did bring in came in pretty quickly anyway.

There was plenty of organisation against City in the last 5 minutes wasn't there, he organised the defence to leave a nice gap for Robinho!

[BuckyRover]

Exactly. I blamed Kidd for our relegation last time therefore I would blame Sam if we went down this year. Don't think we will though

[Majiball]

Maybe Ray could help him out?

"You've bloody stalled it! Now get out of the motor and gimme twenneh! I wanna see that chest hit the dirt, you primeval piece of amphibian ****!"

Do you know who I am? (folds arms) I'm not doing push-ups, I'm taking my toys and going home cause me baby cows in pain.

Ah well, at least I'll have some amusing stories for my future grand kids.

[broadsword]

"Listen to me, er you know ... I'm taking responsibility for the car being in a ditch. Just give me more time and I'll get it out of there. I've learned so much already."

[philipl]

Of ******* it.

I'm off to bully some piglets four fields away.

[Majiball]

"Listen to me, er you know ... I'm taking responsibility for the car being in a ditch. Just give me more time and I'll get it out of there. I've learned so much already."

Sorry son the buck stops with you! I'm PC Williams and I'm afraid your coming with me, but don't worry you'll have plenty of time to learn where your going!! Ya Know.

And bring the Parrot with you.

[Amo]

Paul Ince did a few good things? Like WHAT? I've heard people say he introduced youngsters like Olsson. Wow, he's really benefited from Ince's tenure hasn't he? As for his signings, none of them have made an impact. Robinson's been so-so, but a shadow of Friedel. Simpson & Andrews are both anonymous, Carlos can't touch the first-team, and Grella's always crocked!

If we are relegated, I will lay the blame firmly on the board. We had the potential for a decent season, but they gambled it all away in the hands of a lower-league rookie. Big Sam will take some responsibility for not stopping the rot, but I think the board will need to take a long hard look at themselves.

[cn174]

As for his signings, none of them have made an impact. Robinson's been so-so, but a shadow of Friedel. Simpson & Andrews are both anonymous, Carlos can't touch the first-team, and Grella's always crocked!

Agree with most of that, but anyone was going to be a shadow of Friedel really.

[Amo]

Agree with most of that, but anyone was going to be a shadow of Friedel really.

Friedel was a legend, but Robinson doesn't fill many of the fans with confidence.

[AndyC]

Hang on Andy, why is that directed at me? You've not even quoted me.

I didn't say anything about him wanting more time, I was talking about other people wanting to give him time.

sorry mate - my mistake!

[47er]

I'm not saying Ince was good for us but he did start well and did a few decent things for the club, its far to early to suggest that we have turned a corner and BFS is some kind of saviour, lets wait and see.

How do you get a chance to plan your backroom team before you join? That's something he would have to discuss with the club, the people he did bring in came in pretty quickly anyway.

There was plenty of organisation against City in the last 5 minutes wasn't there, he organised the defence to leave a nice gap for Robinho!

At least we got 2 goals first though eh? I don't understand why you keep flogging a dead horse. Ince was crap for us and would have seen us relegated for sure. What else is there to consider?

[Paulo]

I was speaking to Winterburn last night about the whole Ince, defensive coach thing. He seemed a decent enough guy and he wasn't talking any crap, he was pretty honest that nothing really worked. It just never gell'd from the beginging and once the results went against us, they was trying to many players, and to many different things in training to get anything working properly, added with the fan pressure they knew it was game over.

Had good words about Big Sam.

[Majiball]

Well it would seem Paul could be back in a job he's 8/15 fav for the Norwich job.

[joey_big_nose]

Well it would seem Paul could be back in a job he's 8/15 fav for the Norwich job.

I think it is too soon for him. He needs to find a drawing board and work out a more organised way of approaching management. A sensible way of starting that would be taking time out to do his badges.

He could succeed at Norwich, but I think in the long run it would be more beneficial for his development to concentrate on the basics, and crucially build staff contacts, and then go back into management. It would only mean taking a couple of years out tops.

[T4E]

He needs to do his badges and stop being so bloody arrogant to think the rules don't apply to him. I'm sure it'd win him more friends than he'd lose taking the time out.

[AndyNeil]

Who gives a flying fluff about Paul Ince ... as far as I'm concerned he should be scrubbed from the BRFC history books. Arrogant, cockney, manc (bleeper)

Onwards and upwards

[Amo]

Paul who?

[Pugg]

Well if Grella stays injury free then I think that is one point in my pro-Ince list.

[thenodrog]

Mind if I offer a correction Pugg?

Well if Grella stays injury free then I think that is THE one point in my pro-Ince list.