[Archived] Paul Ince Gone

[thenodrog]

I assumed that those responsible for the single biggest decision in the club for the last 3 years had done their due diligence; clearly they had not.

I bloody well had!

eit unless I am mistaken you were stubbornly pro Ince right up to his dismissal. If I am wrong then I'll apologise now but if that was the case you are hardly in any position to criticise anyone are you?

[tony gale's mic]

Unfortunately it wasn't obvious to John Williams last summer though.

That's the point: Why were the deficiencies of Paul Ince not obvious to Mr Williams, the Rovers board and also many within the media, such as a former colleague of yours at The Times newspaper Jim, the journalist Oliver Holt, who also eulogised the qualities of Paul Ince?

Will you be speaking to some of your former colleagues at The Times, like Oliver Holt, who seems to think that the sun shines out of Ince's backside, and will you be telling Mr Holt how wrong he was about Paul Ince?

Or do you prefer to have a pop at fellow Rovers fans, like myself, who predicted last summer that Ince would be a disaster - and that's exactly how it turned out to be.

Speaking as someone who was against Ince from day one (well I gave him a due chance for maybe a week or two even though i disliked the appointment; there have been numerous unlikely success stories in management but his deficiencies soon started to show)...I find going on about it utterly pointless.

I was locked in many arguments with pro Ince people on here, I wanted him out a long time before he was eventually kicked out but I don't see the point of bragging and boasting about it when there's far more pressing things to discuss.

Give it a rest.

Oh - and I certainly didn't use his council estate upbringing as a stick to beat him with, as I recall you doing in one post.

[Exiled in Toronto]

I bloody well had!

eit unless I am mistaken you were stubbornly pro Ince right up to his dismissal. If I am wrong then I'll apologise now but if that was the case you are hardly in any position to criticise anyone are you?

So what? I wanted him to succeed because I didn't want to be where we are; same with Fat Sam. But what has all this got to do with anything?

The issue is, if I was paid the thick end of 300k and hadn't done the due diligence, then I wouldn't be in any position to criticise.

Of course, if you are suggesting the only opinions that count are from the 5 posters who hated Ince from day 1, then enjoy your mass debate

[Amo]

If we are relegated, it will be the collective responsibility of JW, the board, Ince, Allardyce, and of course the current squad of players. I don't think you can really place it on one party.

I dunno if this even in the right thread. Don't care at this hour!

[Majiball]

Must say I'm getting a little fed up with all this I was right you where wrong rubbish about Ince.

Its done there is nothing we can do about it, its time to move on.

[jim mk2]

Unfortunately it wasn't obvious to John Williams last summer though.

That's the point: Why were the deficiencies of Paul Ince not obvious to Mr Williams,Or do you prefer to have a pop at fellow Rovers fans, like myself, who predicted last summer that Ince would be a disaster - and that's exactly how it turned out to be.

If you had bothered to read some of the many messages about Ince's disastrous tenure as manager there are many people who hold Williams chiefly responsible for Rovers' current plight.

If Rovers are relegated I would expect Williams to offer his resignation, but I am not holding my breath.

Your schoolboy diatribe contains nothing new that has not been stated on here many times before. Please try to keep up.

[thenodrog]

If you had bothered to read some of the many messages about Ince's disastrous tenure as manager there are many people who hold Williams chiefly responsible for Rovers' current plight.

If Rovers are relegated I would expect Williams to offer his resignation, but I am not holding my breath.

Your schoolboy diatribe contains nothing new that has not been stated on here many times before. Please try to keep up.

Your posts toward smithy always come across as full of contempt and loathing Jim..... Now you know how the rest of us feel about you.

[bubblerrovers]

If you had bothered to read some of the many messages about Ince's disastrous tenure as manager there are many people who hold Williams chiefly responsible for Rovers' current plight.

If Rovers are relegated I would expect Williams to offer his resignation, but I am not holding my breath.

Your schoolboy diatribe contains nothing new that has not been stated on here many times before. Please try to keep up.

To be fair no one in the world would want JW job if we go down, selling off everyone making people redundant etc, that would be a thankless job so i hope he stays whatever happens

[thenodrog]

Must say I'm getting a little fed up with all this I was right you where wrong rubbish about Ince.

Its done there is nothing we can do about it, its time to move on.

Au contraire Majiball. I hope that as a collective we have learned from it.

[CrazyIvan]

This forum has turned into a constant p'ssing contest. It's all that seems to happen and it's why I really ignore most of the posts on here now. I post occasionally when I've got something to say but frankly it isn't worth it. The whole Paul Ince thread is the perfect example of 'ooh, I was right and you were wrong, ner ner ner ner ner...' idiocy that has completely ruined this place.

[thenodrog]

Au contraire Majiball. I hope that as a collective we have learned from it.

................ It's all that seems to happen and it's why I really ignore most of the posts on here now. I post occasionally when I've got something to say but frankly it isn't worth it. The whole Paul Ince thread is the perfect example of 'ooh, I was right and you were wrong, ner ner ner ner ner...' idiocy that has completely ruined this place.

You can lead a horse to water.

[CrazyIvan]

You can lead a horse to water.

'Let him who is without sin cast the first stone...'

[thenodrog]

'Let him who is without sin cast the first stone...'

Ah but ............. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

[CrazyIvan]

Ah but ............. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

That one applies more to you than anyone I know!

[Majiball]

Au contraire Majiball. I hope that as a collective we have learned from it.

I know you know what I meant.

[Anti Euro Smiths Fan]

Link: "Ince was too inexperienced," says Martin Olsson

"Ince needed to learn more," says the Swede. "Now we work as a team, not individuals. There is more communication and that helps a lot on the pitch."

Clearly communication wasn't Paul Ince's strong point....

"Sam has been in the Premier League for a long time compared to Paul Ince. Sam knows what he is doing," says Olsson. The clear implication being, sadly, that Paul Ince didn't know what he was doing.

If you had bothered to read some of the many messages about Ince's disastrous tenure as manager there are many people who hold Williams chiefly responsible for Rovers' current plight.

If I remember rightly Jim you got upset and agitated twice before recently when you tried to introduce new topics about John Williams and they were closed down twice by the mods/admin.

You've posted more times on this particular thread about Paul Ince than myself and you've posted more times about Mr Williams than myself. Yet it seems you are now trying to deny me the right to put forward my views.

Earlier this month you posted your feelings about Ince and Williams.

This season could shape the future of Rovers for the next 20 years.

Bloody Ince (and Williams).

Why is it that eleven days later than yourself it seems you are now getting stroppy when I put forward my own views?

You've made over 5,600 posts on the board - which is easily more than double the amount of posts that I've made on the board. Please respect the views and opinions of those who post less often than you do.

The disastrous managerial reign of Paul Ince is clearly still relevant to our current predicament, because he left the club in such a mess and bought mediocre players like Keith Andrews. Judging by Martin Olsson's views, which have been made public today, it's clear that Rovers players were not at all impressed with Ince's knowledge of the game and his general lack of experience.

More than two months after Ince was sacked you posted your thoughts about him Jim. You've been allowed to have your say on Ince and Williams - apart from on the two topics you introduced which were locked. Please respect the right of others to also be allowed to have their say too.

[whittle blue]

You can lead a horse to water.

........but a pencil must be lead

[den]

........but a pencil must be lead

[MCMC1875]

That Paul Ince bloke, has he gone yet?

[LeChuck]

"Paul Ince has turned down the chance to become manager of League One strugglers Brighton as he is unwilling to take charge of a team lower than the Championship. Stockport's Jim Gannon has also rejected the Seagulls who are now expected to appoint former Yeovil boss Russell Slade. (Various)" - BBC Gossip

Talk about delusions of grandeur! I'll be amazed if any Championship club will go near him.

[philipl]

Utter stupidity by Ince.

Great chance to do another Macclesfield and with the new stadium at Falmer, Brighton will soon be a seriosly big club in the lower leagues.

But then Ince is stupid.

[Jan]

"Paul Ince has turned down the chance to become manager of League One strugglers Brighton as he is unwilling to take charge of a team lower than the Championship.

He'll never, EVER work again. Pillock. If anyone ever had any doubts about the stupidity and arrogance of the man- look no further at all!!!

[waggy]

seem to remenber his team beating everton twice this season

[Amo]

seem to remenber his team beating everton twice this season

*yawwn*

He also had more games and won less points.

[roversmum]

Has he completed his badges yet?