[Archived] Paul Ince Gone

[Dunnfc]

Well Said iceman.

The bit were we were only losing by the odd goal exept the big four then a big laugh, we got a thumping from wigan ffs!

Actually im quite suprised he hasn't come out with "I was only sacked because i was black" line yet...

[bazza]

If Ince wasn't given the tools to do the job, does that mean Big Sam kept us up with his bare hands?

What a guy!

[Ritchie]

He was an unqualified oaf who couldn't use his loaf.

This club is a much better place without a charlatan like him polluting it.

[John]

The self proclaimed Guv'nor really is an arrogant c**k!

[Ossydave]

Come on he's hardly gonna say "yeah I was out of my depth and should be considered a failure" is he? He's only human.

[Amo]

Come on he's hardly gonna say "yeah I was out of my depth and should be considered a failure" is he? He's only human.

But he doesn't accept ANY responsibility. There isn't an ounce of humility from his setback at Rovers.

[broadsword]

Yeah he could say something like he's learned his lessons from his time here and he's a better manager for it.

[67splitscreen]

But then we would be branding him a liar. That's not very nice is it.

[colin]

There seems to be a number of people on here with short memories.

When Hughes left in the summer of 2008 there were a number of candidates for the Managers post. As I recollect Sam Allerdyce was one of them and he was so comprehensively rubbished by Rovers' fans that he was effectively excluded from the post.

John Williams & the Rovers' board then looked elsewhere and came up with Paul Ince who had done good things with Macclesfield & MK Dons.

It was a sensible decision at the time, given Rovers' lack of money and that Ince seemed to be a new manager going places. I don't recollect anyone here having too many hissy-fits about the appointment.

We won the first game of the season against Everton at Goodison, we did OK for a while then it all went wrong with loss after loss after loss.

Then Ince was sacked & Allerdyce was appointed. Not too many objections then.

We didn't get relegated

So, probably best to calm down about Ince's appointment. You didn't know it would be a disaster; I didn't know it would be a disaster; Rovers board didn't know it was going to be a disaster. It was OK at the time, but it all turned wrong.

Stop pretending you knew it was wrong from the start.

[daren]

Some people did, and some people didn't. I wasn't terribly happy with Sam, because I thought we could do better. I was livid about Ince, and actually had a "thank god he's gone party". At that point, the board could have appointed bloody Zig and Zag and I'd have breathed a sigh of relief.

As an aside, it isn't just me is it, but the Rovers board have a marked reluctance to appoint a manager that's not British. I think this counted against us last summer.

[bigbrandjohn]

Fair assessment, I was one who was positive at the time and was proved wrong. Thank God we didnt give him much money. Sam did a great job saving us, he will be judged on who he buys and where we end up this season.

I do agree that any manager with even a modicum of communications skills would have thanked us for the opportunity, recognized faults on both sides and learnt from the experience. The fact that he clearly hasnt got the skills or been coached in them means he is probably destined to manage football wanabees who are mesmerized by an ex united and England player. It simply doesnt work in the Premier League.

[neekoy]

I didn't want either him or Allardyce or would still prefer some of the other options, I think Ince will become a good Manager in time once he learns some humility and acceptance that he can actually make wrong decisions.

[Alan75]

There seems to be a number of people on here with short memories.

Stop pretending you knew it was wrong from the start.

I'm not pretending - I knew.

In fact I compared the appointment to Jim Iley's appointment.

[patrickvalery]

Was watching ESPN last night and it was showing highlights rom the 92-93, 93-94 & 94-95 seasons. I'm sure you will recall the 9-0 drubbing Utd gave Ipswich. Well i'd forgotten good old Mr Ince got himself on the score sheet that day. Utd were approx 4/5 goals to the good and Craig Forrest rushed out of his box to make an interception. However, inadvertently he handled the ball. A big heated argument arose with many players surrounding the ref. Anyway Ince steams in hustling the ball off someone puts it down and knocks it into an empty net whilst Forrest and most of his team are still arguing the toss.

Ok, i know he broke no rule. I know if a Rovers player had the initiative to try it i'd applaud. But what got me was the way he ran off like he'd scored the goal of the season. The fact is he weasled his way into the melee in order to score a cheap goal against the PL lowest side (i think). It wasn't as if the game was delicately poised at a nail biting 1-1. He was doing nothing more than pissing on their already ###### soaked chips! Plus having done that he had the lack of respect to run off celebrating as if he'd tucked in the winner against Brazil.

I'll openly admit, when he rocked up at Ewood i wasn't horrified. Not thrilled either i must add. Equally i wasn't against Allardyce. In fact i pretty much trusted JW to make the right call. The only candidate i was adverse to was McClaren because of his tactical deficiencies. When things started to go pear shaped for Ince (and i'm not talking about what hid beneath that grey 'doomsday' suit), i was all for giving the man time. I honestly felt he would have what it took to one day make a good manager. But as time went by he proved me wrong with every decision he made. But for me the one big problem was his inability to adapt. When we began to drop he couldn't see the need to tighten up. He couldn't see that the first step towards halting a bad run is to stop getting beaten. Not necessarily win, but just don't get beat. This stubborness to change is and always will be his undoing.

As yeaterday's comments proved. He will never accept any liability for things going wrong. Its a trait i'm sure Fergie taught him well. But the trouble is Fergie's single mindedness is usually in regards to morals and principles. Not football tactics. And more often than not he is on the right track and is right to stick to his guns. Until Ince can assess a situation with an open mind and be more willing to adapt he will NEVER be a success at the top level.

[Jan]

I wasn't happy about his appointment. I tried to be optomistic, but decided he had to go on the day of the press conference. He's a class A scumbag with absolutely no redeeming features (at least in a public and footballing sense- he might be kind to fluffy animals and children).

So Colin, was I horrified? Yes. Did I try to be positive even though I knew he would never be any good? Yes- for 2 days. After that, would I have run him over with my car if he'd walked out in front of me? Yes. Would I now? Emphatically YES. Despise him, loathe him and wish much ill upon him.

League 1 is above his capablilties and he'll be found out. I always thought it was prophetic that his successor took over seamlessly- oh, and they didn't miss their captain and "star" central midfielder. If, as I suspect, he does worse than Di Matteo I'll be extremely happy- even though I have a soft spot for the MK Dons as a club.

However, even if he does fail, to him it will not be HIS fault. He has a classic "oppressed minority"* view of life- it's all someone else's fault, never his own. Unfortunately too many people have indulged him in that, and he's too old to learn humility. So he's a whiny sod with an inflated view of his own competence. Bet you he's stopped doing his badges too. Karl Robinson is a fool to go there, but he's young and he'll learn.

* In case someone accuses me of racism, in that I include women- of which I am one. At Uni we had "positive discrimination" on seats on the Board of our University Union. I simply regarded them as discrimination and fought (and won) a seat NOT reserved for women- you live and die by your own merits, as it should be.

[Iceman]

Come on he's hardly gonna say "yeah I was out of my depth and should be considered a failure" is he? He's only human.

C'mon Ossy, give it a rest. Of course he is human. However dont come out saying things like he wasnt given the tools, yet cant come out saying that he made not one, but a few mistakes. I think alot of people who support this club, would have respected him a little bit if he had taken some responsibilty for the horror show under his management. We all make mistakes, but we dont go out there saying we werent given the necessary tools to succeed. We learn from those mistakes, and we try to rectify them the next time we encounter the same problem. Good players dont always make good managers. The point im trying to make here is, Ince shouldnt be bull ###### us the fans or the club by making this club to be responsible for his sacking. He with his 'i wasnt given the necessary tools' comment has clearly undermined the clubs fantastic ability to do well under trying conditions. We have been a top half club, been in Europe, won a league cup, semi finals of the FA cup. This was all achieved by managers who to be honest were not given millions to spend either. They were however whole heartedly backed by JW and the board with as much resources as the club could possibly have given.

[thenodrog]

JW: 'we not a bottom 3 club'

Ince: 'yet'

He mentions he didnt have the tools, what a load of rubbish. Hughes was hardly given the funds that Ince got, yet he handled the situation alot better. The only tool missing from Ince was his brain. He failed to asess the situation properly, and failed to rectify clear mistakes and also didnt learn anything from any of those mistakes.

Very unecessary comment and very insulting to the players and to Mark Hughes.

I bloody hope that Mega rich Man City draw football tiddlers MK Dons in some cup or other so that Hughes will get the chance to point out how cream always rises to the top.

There seems to be a number of people on here with short memories.

When Hughes left in the summer of 2008 there were a number of candidates for the Managers post. As I recollect Sam Allerdyce was one of them and he was so comprehensively rubbished by Rovers' fans that he was effectively excluded from the post.

John Williams & the Rovers' board then looked elsewhere and came up with Paul Ince who had done good things with Macclesfield & MK Dons.

It was a sensible decision at the time, given Rovers' lack of money and that Ince seemed to be a new manager going places. I don't recollect anyone here having too many hissy-fits about the appointment.

We won the first game of the season against Everton at Goodison, we did OK for a while then it all went wrong with loss after loss after loss.

Then Ince was sacked & Allerdyce was appointed. Not too many objections then.

We didn't get relegated

So, probably best to calm down about Ince's appointment. You didn't know it would be a disaster; I didn't know it would be a disaster; Rovers board didn't know it was going to be a disaster. It was OK at the time, but it all turned wrong.

Stop pretending you knew it was wrong from the start.

Very good post Colin. The board is awash with washing of hands and selective memories.

A taj suprised you didn't find it within yourself to remember my continual hissy fits last summer. Have you got me on ignore?

I didn't want either him or Allardyce or would still prefer some of the other options, I think Ince will become a good Manager in time once he learns some humility and acceptance that he can actually make wrong decisions.

Not a cat in hell's chance of that. He simply doesn't have enough between his ears.

Karl Robinson is a fool to go there, but he's young and he'll learn.

I've a hunch that SA would have been trying to get rid in order to get his own man in. In which case Robinson had no decision to make.

[blue phil]

So Colin, was I horrified? Yes. Did I try to be positive even though I knew he would never be any good? Yes- for 2 days. After that, would I have run him over with my car if he'd walked out in front of me? Yes. Would I now? Emphatically YES. Despise him, loathe him and wish much ill upon him.

You come across a a really nice person , Jan . How can you get so hysterical about a bloke who was simply promoted beyond his talents ?

For once I agree with Colin's assessment . Out of a poor field to choose from the board took a chance on Ince . It didn't work out and now he's gone . All this childish vitriol is way out of proportion to Ince's "guilt" . I'm pretty certain he didn't mean to bugger it up ....

[nicko]

Worth a read...

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/foo...icle6653483.ece

[Majiball]

Worth a read...

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/foo...icle6653483.ece

Have you watched his interview on the BBC, one or two comments had me in stiches:

I needed 60-70 million.

Happy he lost the job.

We don't understand the game.

Hounded out by press witch hunt

Critises the chairman for not quashing the sacking rumours.

Says he would have done exactly the same as Sam.

I leave the comments to others.

However I would love to see the club come out and tell it like it was and put Mr Ince in his place. I always thought the buck stopped at the managers feet.

[Ritchie]

Paul Ince is a deluded cock who is in need of a huge reality check.

[RibbleValleyRover]

He knew the score (in terms of finances) when he signed the deal. I get the impression he is one of those 'money managers', his success at MK Dons was probably down to the fact that he was managing the biggest spender in that league.

[philipl]

It is an absolute disgrace to Blackburn Rovers that this man was ever associated with our club.

[Dunnfc]

He also said he had the players on his side.

Forgive me but everyone came out after his sacking and said they hated him.

[unluckymorton]

Have you watched his interview on the BBC, one or two comments had me in stiches:

I needed 60-70 million.

Happy he lost the job.

We don't understand the game.

Hounded out by press witch hunt

Critises the chairman for not quashing the sacking rumours.

Says he would have done exactly the same as Sam.

I leave the comments to others.

However I would love to see the club come out and tell it like it was and put Mr Ince in his place. I always thought the buck stopped at the managers feet.

It's funny how all our other managers have praised the club after either being sacked or leaving off their own back.

Ince didn't have a clue, he knew he was never going to get £60m and needed a right winger desperately. He took over a side that finished 7th and lost the keeper and right winger. it's simple, start by replacing what you've lost, keep up the team spirit and build from there.

Instead Ince decided to prove to us all that he didn't have a clue, didn't have the backing of the team and was well out of his depth.

He'd have done the same as Sam? What a complete cock. I hope we draw MK Dons in the cup this coming season, get him back to Ewood so we can really show him what we think of him.