[Archived] Paul Ince Gone

[LeChuck]

he knew he was never going to get £60m and needed a right winger desperately. He took over a side that finished 7th and lost the keeper and right winger. it's simple, start by replacing what you've lost, keep up the team spirit and build from there.

He made such a mess of the Bentley situation it's unreal.

He moved Emerton into the right wing vacancy (anyone who has seen us play over the last few years knows Emerton is poor there) and topped it off by filling the vacated right back position with Danny Simpson! He couldn't have messed that up more if he tried.

I can't think of anyone else I hate more in football than Ince, he doesn't seem to have a single redeeming quality. I'll still never understand what Ince possibly could have said in his interview to convince Williams he was the right man, I can't imagine how anyone could spend more than a couple of minutes with the guy before realising he's a complete buffoon.

[OhmiBRFC]

Worth a read...

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/foo...icle6653483.ece

I read that in the paper yesterday and I couldn't believe it. The guy is deluded beyond belief.

[JAL]

It is an absolute disgrace to Blackburn Rovers that this man was ever associated with our club.

HERE HERE!!!!!!

[tcj_jones]

Ince is becoming my most hated person in the game.

[Silencio]

I think the people who had a go at thenodrog, JAL, some others and myself for wanting Ince out before the season started should eat a big slice of humble pie.

The very first press conference was an absolute disgrace and the reports of dressing room unrest almost immediately after highlighted what a shocking decision it was to appoint Ince. I usually back a manager but Ince was so obviously out of his depth that he should have been out within two weeks.

Some will argue that it would have still been too early but lets face it, we would have had a much better season if we had sacked him before he had time to do the damage he did.

I agree with Jan, hope everything goes tits up for him. I'm pretty sure it will because he is as thick as they come...

[JAL]

HERE HERE!!!!!!

The question IS, has our board learnt anything from this near disastrous episode.

[Ronin]

It's possible that JW and the powers that be at Ewood wanted to see if he that shall not be named could do well, before giving him access to the 'tools' / more funds. When it was apparent that he was out of his depth, they just had to get rid, although he should've maybe been sacked a few games before the Wigan game. I'm just glad that Sam said yes when they asked him again, considering the noise about his potential appointment before Ince got the job. Still, all's well that ends well.

[LeChuck]

Still, all's well that ends well.

It cost us a lot of money though. There was the cost of hiring Ince and his cronies in the first place, then firing them. There is also the money he wasted on some transfers which we are unlikely to see again, plus a big loss in league placings money by the new man starting 5 points adrift in 19th place. That money could have added a LOT to our transfer kitty this summer.

[leftfooter]

Very good post Colin. The board is awash with washing of hands and selective memories.

A taj suprised you didn't find it within yourself to remember my continual hissy fits last summer. Have you got me on ignore?

He probably didn’t read any of it. Colin’s not really that interested in football. Too busy nocturnally posting on environmental and social issues in ICBINF. So conspicuous is his absence on the football thread, I often think he must have entered a Guardian reading induced torpour, or perhaps, I muse, he might have read some of his own posts, and sank in to a deep terminal coma. Suddenly however, usually in response to a post by AESF, Colin resurfaces, like a socially conscious Professor Yaffle in Bagpuss, to regale us with his unquestionable liberal credentials and explain to the lumpen proletariat just why we must learn to embrace oppressed and socially disadvantaged individuals like Paul Ince. Fanx Col.

[Ronin]

It cost us a lot of money though. There was the cost of hiring Ince and his cronies in the first place, then firing them. There is also the money he wasted on some transfers which we are unlikely to see again, plus a big loss in league placings money by the new man starting 5 points adrift in 19th place. That money could have added a LOT to our transfer kitty this summer.

True, but transfer wise, Robinson has done well, and hopefully with a full preseason behind him and injury free, Grella will come good. So the £7m or so for those two won't be of a waste. Plus ol' Keith has proved to be versatile, although not that outstanding, and score a couple of vital goals here and there. Otherwise, you're right, we did get hit for his backroom buddies and dropping like a stone from UEFA hopeful to just above the relegation places. Money which Sam could well have spent this window on securing a better standard of striker/midfielder.

[T4E]

He probably didn’t read any of it. Colin’s not really that interested in football. Too busy nocturnally posting on environmental and social issues in ICBINF. So conspicuous is his absence on the football thread, I often think he must have entered a Guardian reading induced torpour, or perhaps, I muse, he might have read some of his own posts, and sank in to a deep terminal coma. Suddenly however, usually in response to a post by AESF, Colin resurfaces, like a socially conscious Professor Yaffle in Bagpuss, to regale us with his unquestionable liberal credentials and explain to the lumpen proletariat just why we must learn to embrace oppressed and socially disadvantaged individuals like Paul Ince. Fanx Col.

Dick.

[Ritchie]

Dick.

Advocaat?

[philipl]

As in tool that Ince claims he lacks.

[DE.]

The very first press conference was an absolute disgrace and the reports of dressing room unrest almost immediately after highlighted what a shocking decision it was to appoint Ince. I usually back a manager but Ince was so obviously out of his depth that he should have been out within two weeks.

Within two weeks? We'd beaten Everton 3-2 and Drawn 1-1 with Hull. No justification for sacking him then.

I think the sacking came at the right time, maybe a game or three too late. He shouldn't have been appointed at all.

[Billy Castell]

It will be interesting to see how he does at the Franchise this time round. Will he knuckle down, get his badges and try to better himself? Or, will he give it the big 'I am' and think he is too good for a 2nd division team and swan around with an attitude?

I think we'd all say the latter is more likely.

[philipl]

Within two weeks? We'd beaten Everton 3-2 and Drawn 1-1 with Hull. No justification for sacking him then.

I think the sacking came at the right time, maybe a game or three too late. He shouldn't have been appointed at all.

I have reason to believe that JW very nearly took the incredibly brave decision of sacking Ince before a ball had been kicked, such was the total shambles of Rovers pre-season last year.

[thenodrog]

I have reason to believe that JW very nearly took the incredibly brave decision of sacking Ince before a ball had been kicked, such was the total shambles of Rovers pre-season last year.

So what you are saying is that he chickened out gunner?

I'm not suprised he did cos he would have had to face some serious questions from the board about employing him in the first place...... and BRFC would have been slaughtered in the media for sacking the 'first black English manager' before a ball had even been kicked. JW must have spent the next three months on his knees praying to the Lord for help.

Never mind his style or his history at Notlob it was just a bloody good job that a manager the calibre of Allardyce was ready, willing and able to come in and turn us around.

[Kelbo]

I never actually saw that interview until a couple of weeks ago. I can't recall any witch hunt because I thought the media loved Ince more than Rovers anyway. All I recall is all the pundits coming out in support of him (hardly surprising).

As for not being given the tools, I distinctly remember either nicko, Incey or even JW suggesting we didn't go for many players because we didn't have the knowledge etc.

He (and any manager who comes to Rovers nowadays) know exactly what they're getting themselves into. The football was going downhill, there was no sign of it going uphill and, going off Nelsen's comments about the Ince era, it looks as though the players had very little confidence in him.

Ince is wrong about one thing, though... he certainly had the tools. Matthias and Knox.

But the biggest tool was Ince himself!! He would not learn or take anything from his mistakes!!

I was always taught in football, you take something from every game, even if its not to do something ever again, that applies to both managers and Players!!

[FourLaneBlue]

“There are a lot of reasons why it didn’t go well, but I don’t think I was to blame for that."

So there you have it...he takes no blame whatsoever for all that went wrong at Rovers.

As much as I try to feel sorry for Ince for being out of his depth and trying his (woefully inadequate) best even that is impossible. The man comes across as so self-centred and delusional that his interviews are an embarrassment to read.

It is actually a bit uncomfortable to read or listen to him as he talks such like, y´o, unfathomable, y´no, crap.

[Billy Castell]

Tactical ineptitude is not his fault. Hmmmmmmm........................

Who else thinks the black Alan Partridge's 2nd spell at Franchise FC is heading for disaster?

[Majiball]

[philipl]

I think you are being unfair on JW 'drog. These things are usually collective board decisions.

Separately from whatever might have been discussed at board level, if one or two people had not decided to shield the reality of what went on at the German training camp from JW, some of which John found out about much later (including Jason Brown the bus driver), the pre-season decision on Ince might have been very different.

[JAL]

Tactical ineptitude is not his fault. Hmmmmmmm........................

Who else thinks the black Alan Partridge's 2nd spell at Franchise FC is heading for disaster?

Most definitely Billy.

We've got to remember his old captain is here.

[broadsword]

Having read that Times article (none of its my fault) I reckon he felt he had to take the job, realised he was way out of his depth, and decided to construct his own dismissal by beggaring about. If that got us relegated I doubt he'd have lost any sleep.

Quite funny really that he neglects to mention that he did spend money on worthless bobbins, and that Allardyce did 10 times the job he did, and with a much smaller outlay.

I hope he completely arses up the MK Dons job now. Can't stand the fella.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

I'm not pretending - I knew.

In fact I compared the appointment to Jim Iley's appointment.

Exactly how I felt, the guy had nothing going for him. Keith Hill at Rochdale or Simon Grayson would have been just as "good" appointments. The whole Ince saga shook my faith in our board.