[Archived] Messages For John Williams

[mark]

Okay, lets keep these messages polite and measured - it is not a forum to have a go, we all know what a great job John Williams has done for our club.

My message is please see sense. Souey would be another poor, risky choice. Just look at the Souey thread for reasons why. Big Sam (going off the info we have) would come to Ewood. Rovers fans made a HUGE mistake in revolting against him in the summer and we regret it. I know for that reason it may be hard to trust us but I and many others are certain Ince must go and Allardyce must come in. Sunderland would surely have snapped him up by now if they wanted him, no? He is ours for the taking.

He was a serious contender for the England job, this is a man in a different leage to Souey. Times are as bad as I have known in my life (I am 24). If we go down we've had it. Right now 7 of the bottom 8 in the Championship are former Premiership teams. This time I don't think we'd come back. Big Sam has the grit, experience, knowledge and class to get us out of this, of that I am sure. Souey instills me and most other fans with no confidence. Yes he has balls but look at his last six months here last time, what the dickens happened?? (again, see Souey thread for examples).

John, it's big Sam all the way, trust us.

[Anti-Dingle-Brigade]

John, it's big Sam all the way, trust us.

I don't think Rovers fans have any right whatsoever to dictate management issues as it was us who turned down Sam with aplomb before, and now we are begging him to help us. And yes, I include myself in that.

For the record, I think we should get Allardyce in if he accepts. I think Ince can become a good manager given time and money, but we have neither. We are a small club so one relegation could be the end of it. It was, like Hughes, a gamble, but it just didn't pay off. Given time Ince will come good, but it's time we don't have.

[Hi Mack]

Okay, lets keep these messages polite and measured - it is not a forum to have a go, we all know what a great job John Williams has done for our club.

My message is please see sense. Souey would be another poor, risky choice. Just look at the Souey thread for reasons why. Big Sam (going off the info we have) would come to Ewood. Rovers fans made a HUGE mistake in revolting against him in the summer and we regret it. I know for that reason it may be hard to trust us but I and many others are certain Ince must go and Allardyce must come in. Sunderland would surely have snapped him up by now if they wanted him, no? He is ours for the taking.

He was a serious contender for the England job, this is a man in a different leage to Souey. Times are as bad as I have known in my life (I am 24). If we go down we've had it. Right now 7 of the bottom 8 in the Championship are former Premiership teams. This time I don't think we'd come back. Big Sam has the grit, experience, knowledge and class to get us out of this, of that I am sure. Souey instills me and most other fans with no confidence. Yes he has balls but look at his last six months here last time, what the dickens happened?? (again, see Souey thread for examples).

John, it's big Sam all the way, trust us.

If he does read it, he cant take any notice or Ince would have been out after the United cup game!

In my eyes Williams was one of the finest chairmen about backing the managers aswell as he could

Giving decent contracts out to players such as cruz, Bentley etc! But recently with the failure to axe Ince and staying silent

throughout he is losing respect in most quarters. It is inevitable Ince is going soon hes lasted weeks longer than he should.

There is no chance he can turn it around partly due to his own decisions ie appointing incompetent muppets such as mathias, Knox, Fowler etc!

God knows what Monday will bring............I know what i hope it brings!

[BPF]

I've not been on this board for many moons. However, I feel that circumstances being as they are, now would be a good time to come back. I'm not sure I understand the BFS is our saviour attitude. I do feel it too though. I have no idea why though. I have settled on the conclusion that we are so desperate to see the back of Ince that we are latching onto the most feasible replacement. Of all the reasons that we spoke of regarding why the hiring of BFS would be a huge disaster....what has changed? The only difference is now people are ignoring negatives and listing positives.

I want to see a Blackburn free Ince. But I can't help but think we are reacting and deciding due to panic and fear.

[Hi Mack]

I've not been on this board for many moons. However, I feel that circumstances being as they are, now would be a good time to come back. I'm not sure I understand the BFS is our saviour attitude. I do feel it too though. I have no idea why though. I have settled on the conclusion that we are so desperate to see the back of Ince that we are latching onto the most feasible replacement. Of all the reasons that we spoke of regarding why the hiring of BFS would be a huge disaster....what has changed? The only difference is now people are ignoring negatives and listing positives.

I want to see a Blackburn free Ince. But I can't help but think we are reacting and deciding due to panic and fear.

The way i see it is, in the summer we were looking for a manager to take us to the next level! ie Laudrup HTC etc!

Now were looking for a manager to keep us in the league! Theres different requirements this time around!

[Eddie]

No, the requirements in my mind should stay the same. If you believe that a manager has the ability to take you to another level then surely you believe that he can get the required number of points in December-May to keep you up. We need to not hit the panic button on this one and really think through where we want this club to be in a few seasons. I believe that bringing in Souness could see a quick turnaround in results, but I don't believe that it ensures the long-term survival and prosperity of this club. I would like to see us look for someone who can do that, we had options in the summer (Laudrup, HTC and, one could say, even Ince), there will still be options now. We can talk ourselves down and say that no one would want to come to little old Blackburn with no money, but there are only ever 20 managers in the premiership and some of those positions are taken by managers who won't be out of a job anytime soon. In Europe there are probably only 20 jobs that one could say are seriously more attractive than Blackburn; we need to talk a big game and not go for this small-club nonsense that we did in the summer. There are more than 20 talented managers out there, our job is now to find one of them, surely it shouldn't be that hard?

Please let's avoid the usual suspects. Please let us avoid a list of names that the Sun or Times have drawn up as potential future England managers. Please let us think outside of the box.

Short-term fixes do work in football, but they often only delay capitulation for a season. I'd rather see this club go under trying to build and achieve something than trying to scrape by.

[Hughesy]

With so many players out of form there can only be one man for the job - Allardyce.

SACK INCE TOMORROW and replace him with Allardyce. Maybe with Tugay in some sort of assistant manager role

[Brfcrule1]

here here have to agree John if you are reading these boards please do the honorable thing and get rid if Ince before our premiership status is lost Oh and get big Sam in don't matter about the backroom team as long as we become more organised and defending properly that would be a major improvement on what I am witnessing at the moment

from a very concerned fan

[Majiball]

Please let's avoid the usual suspects. Please let us avoid a list of names that the Sun or Times have drawn up as potential future England managers. Please let us think outside of the box.

Fatih Terim - Currently with Turkey

Bernd Schuster - long shot but remember he was at getafe before his shock rise.

Ralf Rangnick - Hoffeinheim boss

Rene Meulsteen - Man Utd coach would make great ass man.

Phil Brown - We're better than Hull on paper

Laurent Blanc - Borbeaux Boss

Edy Reja - Napoli Boss

Roberto Mancini - worth an ask!

Dick Advocaat - Has publicly said he wants to come to england and only has one year left.

Laudrup - eat humble pie one year left

Personal choice - Brown, then Terim.

This is the lma website it has the available managers listed, what a choice!

Slim Pickings

[Presty On Tour]

Fatih Terim would be an excellent choice, he was unbelievable in Euro 2008 and his experience prior to that is 2nd to none!

[67splitscreen]

Fatih Terim would be an excellent choice, he was unbelievable in Euro 2008 and his experience prior to that is 2nd to none!

And, he's Tugay's cousin. About time we got rid of Mcdonalds, and had a decent kebab shop near the ground.

[Iceman]

Is Frank Rijkaard still available? jW c'mon now,what is taking you so long to sack Ince. Did you see Ince standing there,nothing to say to the players,looked like crying and again lost the respect of an absolutely fantastic support from the Rovers fans. You are going from a fantastic chairman,to one that is slowly losing the plot. The longer you delay,the harder it becomes to stay up. Do the right thing,swallow your pride and admit you made a mistake and rectify it,before its too late. Please please please.

[American]

Rene Meulsteen - Man Utd coach would make great ass man.

Don't want to know your thinking on that one....

[bob fleming]

Rene Meulsteen - Man Utd coach would make great ass man.

I fail to see how that is going to help.

[Lurid Coat]

Yeah, I should think that we need boobs men more than ass men in a relegation dogfight, to be honest. *Gets coat*

[LDRover]

Rene Meulsteen - Man Utd coach would make great ass man.

Maybe we could sign John O'Shea and re-incarnate Justin Fashanu while we're at it.

[neekoy]

In Europe there are probably only 20 jobs that one could say are seriously more attractive than Blackburn; we need to talk a big game and not go for this small-club nonsense that we did in the summer. There are more than 20 talented managers out there, our job is now to find one of them, surely it shouldn't be that hard?

Although I don't quite agree with your numbers (I think there are more on both counts) you have certainly nailed it regarding the potential suitors.

I do have some concern though where those Managers were when we competing for Europe with, what seemed the naked eye, a pretty good squad of players with some money to burn.

Some may be surprised by maybe the Premier League isn't the be all and end all for other quality Managers, see Zola's appointment

Surely West Ham, a London club, a club that seemingly had money to burn, a club with some history and prestige could find and appoint a more worthwhile contender then a guy (great guy IMO) who has been out of the playing arena for a couple of years and was an assistant for an under 21 national team?

JW if you are reading, I don't wish your current position on anybody, in my eyes you are still the right man to get us out of this mess, just Ince isn't.

[SamDingle]

In Europe there are probably only 20 jobs that one could say are seriously more attractive than Blackburn

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

This is funnier than your impending relegation.

Taking a while for this penny to drop isnt it?... you're finished guys.

[Mr Creosote]

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

This is funnier than your impending relegation.

Taking a while for this penny to drop isnt it?... you're finished guys.

We'll always be a bigger club than Burnley.

[SamDingle]

We'll always be a bigger club than Burnley.

Oh crap!

Giving a s**t about being 'big' is for Newcastle, Birmingham and City.

It's probably some consolation for Leeds too.

[Mr Creosote]

Oh crap!

Giving a s**t about being 'big' is for Newcastle, Birmingham and City.

It's probably some consolation for Leeds too.

I'll take anything at the moment. That and the hope we dont tumble to the extent that we spend 7 consecutive seasons in the basement, plead and threaten for our League existance, have a lass in a tin bath do the half time draw to get the punters in and close down part of the ground for a fireworks display when it dosn't work.

[broadsword]

John, are you taking any prescription medicines that may make you drowsy?

If so, do not operate heavy machinery, which includes the trap-door lever.

[jim mk2]

Dear Williams,

If you need to consider the views of fans and read this messageboard before making a decision, you shouldn't be in the job.

Regards

Jim

[T4E]

Oh crap!

Giving a s**t about being 'big' is for Newcastle, Birmingham and City.

It's probably some consolation for Leeds too.

Couldn't agree more Samuel. You don't hear people referring to Man United as a big club half as much as they do Newcastle or Spurs. "Big Club" is code for "massive underachievers".

We're anything but that.

[Dan Furness]

Dear Williams,

If you need to consider the views of fans and read this messageboard before making a decision, you shouldn't be in the job.

Regards

Jim

smart considering you have not got the balls to publicly meet him and tell him to his face