alexanders Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 This morning's lancashire telegraph reports that: Souness has told them "I am not your man" Williams has a clear target and that is allerdyce and they expect him to be named as boss within 48 hours. There is also an interview with JW where he talks about once etc. Only in the paper version?
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Bobby G Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 Allardyce has drifted a bit this morning a bit from his odds-on favorite position and Souness has shortened. I have a sneaky feeling Curbishley may be the one the board choose to approach although the fact that he announced he would be interested means it probably hasnt happen or wont... Allardyce has been quiet... Although what the LT is basing their assumptions on is unclear... I doubt Souness would tell us he wouldnt be interested when Murray comes out last night the way he did about Souness dying to be back in the PL.
Zulu Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 How the fark do Sunderland get linked with Mancini and Schuster and we get BFS and Souness? When Bolton got rid of Little Sammy Incompetent I recall lots of jollity being spread around on here about the fact that our only possible replacements appeared to be the Ginger Mourinho (aka Gary Megson) or old Whirling Eyes Souness. I must admit I couldn't see the funny side at the time. I can now.
47er Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 Assistant boss Ray Mathias is in temporary charge and insisted the week would follow a normal course. He said: 'It's a massive disappointment Paul has gone. You can see it in the players' eyes. But we are professionals.' "Would those eyes be the professionals who popped over to Dublin to support their manager, in which case it might be the remnants of a good night out that he sees in their eyes . "Brilliant" I'm rather worried that the week will follow a normal course! I want 3 points.
Beta Ray Bill Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 My dream team would be : BFS as Manager Souey as 1st team coach and Dennis Wise as Director of football. Hopefully Doug Ellis can buy the club and change the set up every three months after appointing Peter Ridsdale as CEO. I would write more, but the nurse wants to give me my medication.
The Prof. Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 Just for those who forget. Henning Berg commenting on Souness quitting Blackburn: "I know Souness as a manager and he has got several weaknesses. It will depend on who comes in, but it should be good for Gamst Pedersen's development," said Berg. "I will not comment on what the weaknesses of Souness are, but results in the past have been weak considering the players and money the club have. It's good for Blackburn as a club too, I'm in fact a bit surprised that Newcastle chose him. "It's hard to say how good Blackburn can do this season. Souness has managed to sell several of the best players: Damien Duff, David Dunn, Dwight Yorke and Andy Cole. I Remember this: http://www.wsc.co.uk/content/view/444/29/
hawkiiz Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 Just for those who forget. Henning Berg commenting on Souness quitting Blackburn: "I know Souness as a manager and he has got several weaknesses. It will depend on who comes in, but it should be good for Gamst Pedersen's development," said Berg. "I will not comment on what the weaknesses of Souness are, but results in the past have been weak considering the players and money the club have. It's good for Blackburn as a club too, I'm in fact a bit surprised that Newcastle chose him. "It's hard to say how good Blackburn can do this season. Souness has managed to sell several of the best players: Damien Duff, David Dunn, Dwight Yorke and Andy Cole. I Remember this: http://www.wsc.co.uk/content/view/444/29/ exactly. i read Hennings biography, and he had few if any good things to say about souness. Training was bad. very bad. He had no social antennas in the dressing room - probably true. now i dont remember the details in the book but i will check again if souey becomes a real target. long story short - souness was a terrible manager according to berg. and henning berg know what a GOOD manager is. alex ferguson, kenny and Egil Olsen (for norway was top notch).
Bobby G Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 Souness shortening big-time as Big Sam drifts out... Just as I mention is Souness has become joint favorite on Betfair.
philipl Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 Kamy's LT comment trumps this lot but here goes: Telegraph suggest Souness- given that paper's recent track record, avoid putting money on Souey then! Ditto the Express Quick point on Dave Jones- his Premiership statistics for games won etc is actually amongst the best. He lost his job over that farce of a Court case.
accyrover Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 exactly. i read Hennings biography, and he had few if any good things to say about souness. Training was bad. very bad. He had no social antennas in the dressing room - probably true. now i dont remember the details in the book but i will check again if souey becomes a real target. long story short - souness was a terrible manager according to berg. and henning berg know what a GOOD manager is. alex ferguson, kenny and Egil Olsen (for norway was top notch). Well, after knackering myself out dancing a happy jig all day following The Ego's departure, in the cold light of day we have few reasonable choices.... Allardyce - wont come. His ego was bruised when we gave the job to Ince in the summer. Also has too many detractors in the boardroom (apparently). Would be my no.1 choice though. Souness - worth a shout. On the plus side, knows the club and a sizeable majority of the players. Would instill a fighting spirit and might just save us. On the down side, archaic training methods and quite frankly is a bit bonkers. Would be my choice though, even if only to see a banner in Blackburn End at the end of the season with 'Chop Souey' written on it after we get relegated. Keegan - Please God NO ! We would end up with a goal difference of -75 with him in charge. Doesn't have the balls or credentials for the fight in my opinion. Grant - Not sure. Didn't really impress me at Chelski, although nearly won Champions League. Not sure. Bilic - Yes please. Might come. Not sure about tactical nouse though - shown up badly against England recently, but then was locking horns with Capello......which leads me nicely onto..... Capello - Would chew my own leg off to get him to Ewood. Now, back to reality..... Curbishley - Oh dear. Do we have to ? Has never impressed me. Doesnt seem to have the presence we need to galvanise the players for the fight. Then again, what do I know ? O'Leary - O'Dreary more like. No thanks. Coyle - Big risk, no Prem credentials. We need someone with experience. Would have added bonus of p**sing off Burnley though.... Irvine - No. No experience. Shearer - That old chestnut again. No chance, and no thanks. Romantisism will get us relegated. Mancini - Yes please ! We need some decent pasta outlets near the ground. Would he really come though . Milan one day, Blackburn the next ?????? Jones - Not sure. Mixed track record. Wouldn't be on my list. McCarthy - Can't get past his nose. Ok as RoI manager but not broken any pots with Wolves. Would be a risk and strikes me as a bit abraisive. Keane - The ex-Sunderland manager, not the rock band. No thanks. Nut Job. Houllier - Bit google-eyed but could be a success. Likeable bloke with lots of experience. Good shout in my opinion. Ericsson - Isn't he shagging some Mexican dollybird in Cancun whilst moonlighting as their national coach ? Alledgedly. Sorry Nancy. Can't think of anyone else really.......... Accyrover
neekoy Posted December 17, 2008 Author Posted December 17, 2008 It can't be Souness surely, he had his day, he was good for us, but it smacks of Keeganism.
Wiggy Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 Kamy's LT comment trumps this lot but here goes: Telegraph suggest Souness- given that paper's recent track record, avoid putting money on Souey then! Ditto the Express Quick point on Dave Jones- his Premiership statistics for games won etc is actually amongst the best. He lost his job over that farce of a Court case. Philip the headlines in the Daily Telegraph sports section are Rovers eye Allardyce
philipl Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 Wiggy, click on the link! Daily Mail argues against Souness
Hasta Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 exactly. i read Hennings biography, and he had few if any good things to say about souness. Training was bad. very bad. He had no social antennas in the dressing room - probably true. now i dont remember the details in the book but i will check again if souey becomes a real target. long story short - souness was a terrible manager according to berg. and henning berg know what a GOOD manager is. alex ferguson, kenny and Egil Olsen (for norway was top notch). You have to remember though do you want a manager the players like or one that is successful ? Apart from the final few months, Souness was the latter. Brian Kidd was the former.
Paul Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 Not one of the names interests me, nor fills me with hope. Sums it for me. The suggested are as boring as paint drying, mind you I was totally unimpressed when we signed Ince so I suppoose nothing has changed I also worry how all fans, will react. As lots have said we cannot be divided over the new man. I doubt if we will be as the list is so dull it's not going to raise any real passions.
clarkycan Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 Haven't managed to read all 30 pages, but from what I've read/heard I'm surprised there's not more mention of Chris Coleman. Obvious link to the club, managed in the Prem quite successfully before with an unfashionable club. Hardly setting the world alight with Coventry mind, but that means he'll probably be easily prized away if need be.
Roost Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 I wonder why Rovers are hoping to have someone in place by saturday.... are we not in danger of 'frying pans and fires'? How can we fully assess the options in a couple of days? Bloody 'ell, I have just employed a new project manager and it took me weeks to find the right person. Dont forget JW, Allardyce has already failed the interview - what has changed in 5 months? Dont go there...please Your next appointment is the difference between swimming or drowning Haven't managed to read all 30 pages, but from what I've read/heard I'm surprised there's not more mention of Chris Coleman. Obvious link to the club, managed in the Prem quite successfully before with an unfashionable club. Hardly setting the world alight with Coventry mind, but that means he'll probably be easily prized away if need be. And there is the reason to leave him just where he is......................
broadsword Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 Agreed Pedro, but we cannot leave Knox and Mathias in charge too long. We have painted ourselves into a corner.
Bobby G Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 We have had the last couple of weeks to think of who we want. If anyone doubts that then they are foolish...
Pugg Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 How can we fully assess the options in a couple of days? Dont forget JW, Allardyce has already failed the interview - what has changed in 5 months? I doubt it was a couple of days. More likely to be weeks. He didn't fail the interview, he failed the test...the facebook test.
Roost Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 I doubt it was a couple of days. More likely to be weeks. He didn't fail the interview, he failed the test...the facebook test. Thats funny!! well, I for one hope fails it again.................... One Love - BRFC
Hughesy Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 Big sam is surely the obvious choice. Manchini, Grant, Schuster etc would all be a massive risk - yes they all have talent and experience abroad but none of them have much experience in a relegation fight in the english prem with limited resources. Big sam to be in before Friday.
wandel77 Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 Big sam is surely the obvious choice. Manchini, Grant, Schuster etc would all be a massive risk - yes they all have talent and experience abroad but none of them have much experience in a relegation fight in the english prem with limited resources. Big sam to be in before Friday. Schuster were in a little club before Real Madrid. Getafe have the same resources or less than Rovers !! I think Schuster would be a massive signing compared to the others.
Bobby G Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 I wouldnt go with Grant...Not at all... Hughesy anything in your Big Sam before Friday, or just what you want?
Hughesy Posted December 17, 2008 Posted December 17, 2008 I wonder why Rovers are hoping to have someone in place by saturday.... are we not in danger of 'frying pans and fires'? How can we fully assess the options in a couple of days? Dont forget JW, Allardyce has already failed the interview - what has changed in 5 months? Dont go there...please We need a new manager in place soon to get rid of the likes of Mathias and Winterbum. We wont of only been looking for a new manager for a day or two, they put several calls out over a week ago so they have obviously been assessing those available. They have probably already contacted several including Allardyce and Grant so they know the options. As for Allardyce, he never failed the interview he was simply not given a chance because we tried the same model as Hughes i.e. Young and upcoming with bright future, however this time it didnt work. Just a hunch with Big Sam
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