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Those 3 combined don't even come to half of what Ooijer cost. I bet we can get our money back on Rigters when he leaves, even if he crap.

LeChuck, I'll take you on that bet.

After all, we all know how top European sides prize patience in a player. And Rigters has been remarkably patient sitting on Barnsley's bench.

There is absolutely no way we will recoup on Rigters. We will either get a fraction or, more likely, he will go for free. Maceo Rigters must go down as Hughes' worst signing.

As for Ooijer, he was a great player for PSV and they were furious that he was leaving (fans, anyway). However, those canny Dutch guys sold him at the perfect time. Age has gnarled up his game and he is now of no use in a decent standard league.

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LeChuck, I'll take you on that bet.

After all, we all know how top European sides prize patience in a player. And Rigters has been remarkably patient sitting on Barnsley's bench.

There is absolutely no way we will recoup on Rigters. We will either get a fraction or, more likely, he will go for free. Maceo Rigters must go down as Hughes' worst signing.

As for Ooijer, he was a great player for PSV and they were furious that he was leaving (fans, anyway). However, those canny Dutch guys sold him at the perfect time. Age has gnarled up his game and he is now of no use in a decent standard league.

I don't think it is an age issue. I suspect that the Premiership hussle and bussle was just too fast for him. Remember he had an excellent Euro 2008 last summer.

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By signing a free or by a part ex? Onouha as part of the deal to take Roque away would be good.

Is there a site anywhere of who will be out of contract in summer?

Hughsey- Onouha will not b on his way to Ewood this summer. He has been City's best defender this season and pushed Richards out to RB. Infcat, I would say their is more chance of Richards joining than Onouha and ven that is very very unlikely.

When we were linked to him it 18 months ago he was well down the pecking order; now he is their first choice CB.

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I've read somewhere (think it might have been the nicko thread) that Sam's main targets this summer are an "out and out" right winger and a Roque replacement with Emo goin back to play right back.....

I think we need two good central midfielders more than an out and out right winger. At least we've got Diouf and Emerton who can play on the right wing, whereas our central midfield must rank amongst the worst in the Premiership.

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According to the online newspaper "Marca", Valencia will sell or release 12 to 16 players.

Morientes and Curo Torres will be out of contract.

Villa, Silva, Joaquin, Moretti, Marchena, Albiol, Miguel and Manuel Fernandeswill be sold for a lot of money.

Albelda, Baraja, Del Horno, Hugo Viana, Edu are available for sale but there are not many interested so they just might be released for nothing.

Some of them are completely impossible for us but others could be good signings.

Morientes would be a very Sam-esque signing.

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Where did you hear that ? Vagner Love would be a quality signing

I'm not so sure. A temperamental Brazillian will hardly appeal to Allardyce. But nationality has never put him off a player. He signed Pieboy Jardell rem.... and came to regret it too I think.

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Nope,nowhere near good enough.

Is he? I've only seen him play a few times and looked OK. He got injured then Spurs bought Corluka and he'll never get that spot back. He cost them £9 million; or is that on a par with the Darren Bent money.

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Where did you hear that ? Vagner Love would be a quality signing

There was a story on the back page of the 'People on Sunday' yesterday.. but they do not appear to have that story on thier website

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I mean one that stops goals from being conceded ;)

i think since Sam has come in, Robinson has been good for us and i can't seem to remember him letting any silly goals in of late. Robinson is a good keeper, he has had a couple of bad moments in his career which did not help his confidence, but i think since Big Sam has come into the club he has not put much wrong what i can remember.

He is not as good as Brad was, but i think about 17 other teams in the premier league don't have a keeper better then Brad.

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i think since Sam has come in, Robinson has been good for us and i can't seem to remember him letting any silly goals in of late. Robinson is a good keeper, he has had a couple of bad moments in his career which did not help his confidence, but i think since Big Sam has come into the club he has not put much wrong what i can remember.

He is not as good as Brad was, but i think about 17 other teams in the premier league don't have a keeper better then Brad.

Only caught the second half of the West Ham game were Rovers played mainly in the hammers half but watching Robbo didnt inspire me at all he looked extremely nervous, unsure of himself, which I find very odd when he had very little to do. Obviously the pressure is taking its toll on the lad hopefully he will come through this long period a better goalkeeper but he certainly aint there yet for me to have confidence in him.

He has a fantastic kicking ability which obviously suits the manager down to a tee and he is vocal which are plusses, its just the rest of his game that doesnt instill confidence. Hes got the rest of the season to turn up and show us just how invaluable he is to the first team i'm rooting for him to do it. Hes got to do it when we need him most.

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