[Archived] Rovers V Citeh

[tony gale's mic]

We would have been out the drop zone had we won yesterday after Boro's defeat today!

Just thought i'd share that with you

With a 2-0 victory we would've been, with a 2-1 victory we wouldn't have been.

I should know as I've just won 100 quid, putting 25 on at 4-1 on the bottom three being Stoke, Rovers and West Brom on Jan 1st (I put the bet on just before the Boxing Day fixtures). Ideally I was hoping for a one goal victory margin for Rovers and a one goal victory margin for United after the other Sunday results...shame we couldn't keep our part of the bargain!

[JAL]

OK this is for all the people on here blaming Ooijer for the second, below is a link to the highlights stop the second half on around 39-40 seconds.

Highlights

So have a look at the situation, should Ooijer be where he was, yes, if Ooijer goes out and marks Robinho who marks the man he is? If Ooijer goes out to pick up Robinho we have an overload in the middle, behind the perspective of the centre half in front of him. Where do you think the ball would have gone then?

You could shuffle the whole lot along one so Ooijers free to pick him up, but as I have said its safe till derb's moves.

Derb's is covering the pass, but as all strikers he only sees the danger in front of him. As long as Derb's does not move the pass is not on and its safe. Put Ooijer out there and its not safe. Watch and see the timing of the pass stop the video the second you see it and check out what derbs is doing.

Its not his fault, the first yes, Nelsen was there and had a better position to clear, but not the second.

Root cause for me majiball is Steven Warnock, hes stood in 'no mans land' ball watching, City have four up front Warnock should have had the first one to his side then all the defenders would have passed on the marking of men and Ooijer would have ended up marking Robinho. Derbyshire in his defence is looking to mark the man in front of him which is what he should be doing.

Root cause here for me is the left back in no mans land but then its upto Robinson to spot the danger and communicate to the rest of the line quickly.

Still doesnt escape the fact that we couldnt keep posession and see the game out instead of hoofing it upfield especially when we've just gone with one up front.

[robbo_rovers]

One a slight plus note, at least we came out of this game annoyed that we only got 1 point rather than 3. Recently it has been a case of being annoyed we got nothing at all.

[Majiball]

your only refering to the second goal right? Nelsen had the best view in the ground for the first goal, that was an Ooojier error to desperately head across the goal, school boy stuff

evidently its a matter of opinion as to whether the second goal was Oojier error again

what matters is what Sam thinks, he would probably put the blame on a few people

I'd be happy with a decent right back in the window

Yes I am talking about the second, don't worry I can't absolve him for the first even if Nelsen doesn't call Ooijer is old enough to realise heading a ball across the goal is a bad move. I'd still like to know why he was unmarked in our box.

Silly errors for both goals really, silly errors.

Have a wander through pages 9-13 if you want some examples. One which shouldn't offend anyone is the poster questioning the amount of injury time. 5 second half subs at 30 sec per sub accounts for 2.5 minutes, so 90 seconds for other stoppages seems about right?

I read them through, I completely see your point.

I had no real issue with the stoppage time, if anything I thought we had gotten off lightly Tug's took what a minute and a half to walk back across, lol.

I was amazed at Webb he's not normally so kind to us he must be a red.

Root cause for me majiball is Steven Warnock, hes stood in 'no mans land' ball watching, City have four up front Warnock should have had the first one to his side then all the defenders would have passed on the marking of men and Ooijer would have ended up marking Robinho. Derbyshire in his defence is looking to mark the man in front of him which is what he should be doing.

Root cause here for me is the left back in no mans land but then its upto Robinson to spot the danger and communicate to the rest of the line quickly.

Still doesnt escape the fact that we couldnt keep posession and see the game out instead of hoofing it upfield especially when we've just gone with one up front.

The Robbo point is a good one he is the man with the best view. I wonder if Brad would have spotted it?

When I was looking at the video I decided to comment on what was there, with out any changes.

Shuffling across does make Ooijer free but it also creates space behind the man pressing strurridge, which if he then goes past his marker he can exploit. I'll assume thats why Warnock is there. What really winds me up is we had done our job he had turned he was going away we forced him into the middle where we had nobody? from a three man central midfield, we lost all shape and discipline. We have no midfield leader no organiser tug's does it well when he's playing but alas ref's won't let him use the shopmobility trolley for the final 20 mins. We desperatly need a man in the middle with a voice (Savage)

It also depends on whether we are defending Zonal/Man or a combo of both. There are so many errors in the second goal you could lay blame on anyone, so I'm going to lay it on the team as a whole. We had plenty of oppurtunities to prevent it but a collection of poor choices has created their equaliser. Our decision making and organistion need work I'm not convinced the void left by Friedel has been filled and by that I mean his organistion of his box.

On a personal level if I wanted to shut out a game with the ball in our area I would advocate that the back four where together and tight with the wingers tucking in to protect the flanks four plus the sitter should be able to deal with almost any ball into the box. It would be like a back 6.

For me it shows how patched up we really are, how badly we need a couple of players who are specialists in their roles

City's moves in the last minutes threw our team, Richards up top gave us a threat that one of our centre halfs had to take. If this happens though the defence needs re-organising markers re-assigned.

[waggy]

the blame for the last goal belongs to derbyshire,to not run the ball into the corner was criminal

[chris]

it's time we all stopped crying about this (including me), I watched the Championship highlights, quite a few last min goals, I guess thats what makes football great to watch, it will not happen every match, but will happen again and again everywhere

it may have identified a few weak areas for Sam to work his magic, only 5 points off 11th for christ sake

as Arnold Schwarzenegger would say "Stop Whining"

[tony gale's mic]

I predict we'll be out of the relegation zone by the end of January.

[modes98]

the blame for the last goal belongs to derbyshire,to not run the ball into the corner was criminal

I thought you weren't watching Rovers anymore The last 2 home games have been brilliant atmosphere and football wise, compared to the Ince dross anyway.

[dave birch]

I thought you weren't watching Rovers anymore The last 2 home games have been brilliant atmosphere and football wise, compared to the Ince dross anyway.

Waggy made a fair comment. If you are winning, a few minutes to go, take the ball to the corner, try to work a free kick or what ever, or were you just being inflammatory?

[Eddie]

it's time we all stopped crying about this (including me), I watched the Championship highlights, quite a few last min goals, I guess thats what makes football great to watch, it will not happen every match, but will happen again and again everywhere

it may have identified a few weak areas for Sam to work his magic, only 5 points off 11th for christ sake

as Arnold Schwarzenegger would say "Stop Whining"

The problem for me isn't the one last minute goal...it is the two goals in the dying minutes. 2-0 in the Premiership should be game over...2-0 up in the premiership with a few minutes to play HAS to be game over.

You'll always concede late on now and then and we have picked up several points this season from scoring at the death, but when you have a comfortable lead in a crucial game you have to close it out. One of the characteristics of a good side is being able to hold on a lead and make sensible decisions at crucial moments.

[dave birch]

I ndeed Eddie, the terminal score in football is 2-1, always harder to hold on then. It should be in the corner and foot on the ball, make them work for it.

[Hasta]

I've not watched anything of the game again because I'm still too gutted (and hungover) two days later. However why didn't Derbyshire take the ball into the corner when he had fresh legs instead of trying to head it through to Emerton.

The only time I can recall coming off Ewood feeling like that recently was when we missed those two penalties in injury time against Bolton. Absolutely gutted.

[Hughesy]

Derbyshire should of run the ball into the corner and then booted it high over the riverside. Im sure that would of wasted abit of time.

City's support was poor - but again the Police stopped us from selling the top tier - not quite sure why as we missed out on an extra 3000 at the game!

Anyway before the game most would of been happy with a point so lets look at the positives. 3 games unbeaten. 5 goals for, 2 against. And both the two games we have drawn we could have so easily have taken all 3 points. That is a massive improvement compared to wigan away 3-0!!

[MCMC1875]

Derbyshire should of run the ball into the corner and then booted it high over the riverside.

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[waggy]

I thought you weren't watching Rovers anymore The last 2 home games have been brilliant atmosphere and football wise, compared to the Ince dross anyway.

watched on tv in the pub,lovely and warm with beer on tap,fantastic the only way to watch bfs rovers

[tony gale's mic]

Yeah, better to watch a side that plays better football and doesn't get beaten as much in the pub, while watching a consistently losing Rovers side down Ewood eh waggy?

[waggy]

Yeah, better to watch a side that plays better football and doesn't get beaten as much in the pub, while watching a consistently losing Rovers side down Ewood eh waggy?

sure is and when spit the dog comes along there will be more doing it

[Amo]

Please, just put waggy on the ignore list. It saves me reading the replies every time someone bites to his trolling.

I actually accepted the result fairly quickly. It was a sucker-punch, but there's no use moping about it. You can't change what has happened. I'd rather take the positives that we're now a tighter outfit and worked our bloody socks off. There's also five points between us and the 11th placed team, so we've got a long way to go yet.

[The Prof.]

watched on tv in the pub,lovely and warm with beer on tap,fantastic the only way to watch bfs rovers

In the pub in Rishton eh? Suppose that gave you plenty of atmosphere!

[waggy]

In the pub in Rishton eh? Suppose that gave you plenty of atmosphere!

plenty off rovers fans in,one lad with 2 season tickets in his pocket,citeh fans as well,great day

[ace]

plenty off rovers fans in,one lad with 2 season tickets in his pocket,citeh fans as well,great day

"OFF ROVERS fans" ?????

Describes you ex-supporters brilliantly.

[waggy]

"OFF ROVERS fans" ?????

Describes you ex-supporters brilliantly.

no ex-supporter,i refuse to go because offfffff allidice,and the other lad could not be arsed

[tony gale's mic]

Pathetic really...

[Olveres]

no ex-supporter,i refuse to go because offfffff allidice,and the other lad could not be arsed

Could be a while till you get to come back to Ewood then if Allardyce turns us round and gets us top tens year in year out. Granted this might draw big clubs sniffing for his services but after his Newcastle experience he might prefer our quiet little backwater to ludicrous amounts of pressure.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Your one in a million waggles you really are!