[Archived] Spit The Diouf

[Hughesy]

Wake up people it’s a football club, not a social network. We are here to win football matches, and if it improves our team by having Diouf in, which it clearly does – then im all for it!! DIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUF!!!

Everyone has a past, everyone has made mistakes in life. The only difference is that Diouf has done it in public and therefore his image has paid the price.

Take away what Diouf has done prior to rovers, what has he shown at Rovers so far??

-He will work as hard as anyone

-He seems to be really happy playing for the club, and really keen to impress

-Never stops running

-Likes to get stuck in

-He is also quite demanding, and that is a good thing as it spurs your team on.

-Has good control of the ball and knows how to keep possession

-Scored a goal which got us back into the game and then went on to win.

Iv also met the guy since he’s been at the club and he seems a cracking lad and is always happy to spend time talking to you. He’s not the monster some would like you to think!!

[broadsword]

Iv also met the guy since he’s been at the club and he seems a cracking lad and is always happy to spend time talking to you. He’s not the monster some would like you to think!!

I think it's a case of giving a dog a bad name.

Can't say I was too enamoured with him before he signed, but he's here now. If it was a choice between signing Diouf and staying up; or getting relemegated, then I would pick the first option. And our squad is so thin that it might well come down to him making the difference.

he hasn't been at Rovers long, but he's not done anything to disgrace the shirt yet, so let's get off his back.

[Stonesrick]

Wake up people it’s a football club, not a social network. We are here to win football matches, and if it improves our team by having Diouf in, which it clearly does – then im all for it!! DIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUF!!!

Everyone has a past, everyone has made mistakes in life. The only difference is that Diouf has done it in public and therefore his image has paid the price.

Take away what Diouf has done prior to rovers, what has he shown at Rovers so far??

-He will work as hard as anyone

-He seems to be really happy playing for the club, and really keen to impress

-Never stops running

-Likes to get stuck in

-He is also quite demanding, and that is a good thing as it spurs your team on.

-Has good control of the ball and knows how to keep possession

-Scored a goal which got us back into the game and then went on to win.

Iv also met the guy since he’s been at the club and he seems a cracking lad and is always happy to spend time talking to you. He’s not the monster some would like you to think!!

Very good post. Anyone notice who was the last player off the pitch at both Hull and Fulham, applauding the Rovers following and throwing his shirt into the crowd?

There are plenty of undesirable people who I have to put up with both at football matches home and away, as well as on a 11 hour journey on the supporters coach but that's life and I am certainly not going to be put off from following and getting behind my team and ALL those who wear the famous blue and white halves.

[gbax]

I think it's a case of giving a dog a bad name.

Can't say I was too enamoured with him before he signed, but he's here now. If it was a choice between signing Diouf and staying up; or getting relemegated, then I would pick the first option. And our squad is so thin that it might well come down to him making the difference.

he hasn't been at Rovers long, but he's not done anything to disgrace the shirt yet, so let's get off his back.

Saw him while at the Everton game whilst on a corporate ticket. He personally donated a signed shirt for a a charity evening I'm involved with (won't raise much on here bidding for his shirt) and took the charities details to send any stuff in the future.

Not bad for the devil's offspring that some have labeled him on here! What you see on the pitch isn't always the full picture.

But, everyones an expert!

[bluebruce]

actually no.. you insinuate, that his charity work, is pr related. such a claim, without some facts, are useless. exactly as useless, as oliver holt, who insinuated, that ince´s dismissal, might have something to do, with the colour of his skin.

diouf might very well be a scumbag, as you eloquently put it, but nevertheless, he is ACTUALLY doing charity work. THE scumbag could just not do it.

you wrote and i qoute "My opinion is that in every way I'm aware of, excepting this charity work, Diouf is a scumbag" So tell me, based upon your vast knowledge of diouf and his personality, what is it, that you are aware of..??? BESIDES his on the pitch antics, tell me something about him personally, that could give your vague insinuations or opinion, some solid foundation.

my point of view is, that dioufs on the field antics, at times are not well thought out. He is basically a hothead, when he is playing. BUT im not going to judge his entire person, based upon these things. Just like i dont judge a player like gerrard, because he dives into challenges, sometimes without considering the opponetns health + his participating in an assault on a dj. Personally i find it onesided and narrowminded, to views a person with such glasses. BUT thats just my opinion.

Come off it. You're not even reading what I say, it would appear. Even whilst you quote it. I said 'in every way I'm aware of'. I'm not aware of anything except his pitch antics, reputed wife beating, and the things Smith mentioned (Though I'm as confused as everybody else as to why he felt the need to point out that Diouf is a Muslim). So bringing up anything else is pretty damned unconnected to my statement.

What do you mean THE scumbag? I didn't say he was Satan incarnate. But you're even willing to concede that he 'might very well be a scumbag'. Scumbags can engage in charity work, yes. People aren't entirely one-dimensional. But when everything else one is aware of regarding an individual indicates that they are a scumbag, it isn't unreasonable to question their motivations. Note how I say 'question' their motivations. This is because I am not STATING that I know why he is doing charity work. So this is the second time you've mistaken my scepticism for allegations. Want to make it a hat trick? And you can leave out any more cheap attempts to insult my eloquence, too. I'm perfectly eloquent, but certain behaviour warrants certain labels.

I'm a MAJOR hot-head on the pitch myself. But I've never spat on anyone, or dived. And I've never harassed a referee like he has either. In short, I don't let my temper replace my integrity.

[greco]

Come off it. You're not even reading what I say, it would appear. Even whilst you quote it. I said 'in every way I'm aware of'. I'm not aware of anything except his pitch antics, reputed wife beating, and the things Smith mentioned (Though I'm as confused as everybody else as to why he felt the need to point out that Diouf is a Muslim). So bringing up anything else is pretty damned unconnected to my statement

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so he is a scumbag based on his on the pitch antics.. that would make ålayers such as gattuso and roy keane scumbags aswell.

smiths post in general was pitifull, if we dug deep enough in everyones closet, the skeletons are there to be found. After reading his post, im far from surprised, that he included his religion.

What do you mean THE scumbag? I didn't say he was Satan incarnate. But you're even willing to concede that he 'might very well be a scumbag'. Scumbags can engage in charity work, yes. People aren't entirely one-dimensional. But when everything else one is aware of regarding an individual indicates that they are a scumbag, it isn't unreasonable to question their motivations. Note how I say 'question' their motivations. This is because I am not STATING that I know why he is doing charity work. So this is the second time you've mistaken my scepticism for allegations. Want to make it a hat trick? And you can leave out any more cheap attempts to insult my eloquence, too. I'm perfectly eloquent, but certain behaviour warrants certain labels.

the word scumbag, was used sarcastic, in the relation to the word charity. You pointed the finger at someone and said you thought his charity work, had a lhidden agenda pr wise. You might feel your only questioning his motives, but the underlining of that statement, to me, seems accusational.

ahh i see, i should leave out the cheap shots, while you take your own mr hattrick - Again.. very eloquent

I'm a MAJOR hot-head on the pitch myself. But I've never spat on anyone, or dived. And I've never harassed a referee like he has either. In short, I don't let my temper replace my integrity.

well to me. being a hot head, really includes tha fact, that you sometimes cross the line and get yourself into some "unlucky" situations, and as you havent come close, ill just say our definitions. of a hot head differs.

but , lets agree to disagree..

[Hughesy]

I'm a MAJOR hot-head on the pitch myself. But I've never spat on anyone, or dived. And I've never harassed a referee like he has either. In short, I don't let my temper replace my integrity.

Noun - hothead

(pejorative) One who angers easily or goes in search of arguments or fights.

Your just as bad!

[rover6]

Sounds like Spit is on form today.

Picked up a yellow card, should've been sent off and involved in a fracas with the opposition.

People say that the ends justify the means. I say, Diouf is not worthy of the Rovers shirt.

[1864roverite]

His goal versus Fulham may just be so valuable that he has the right to wear our shirt.

Granted fans dislike him, so what ? Rovers have always been the team that others like to hate and having Diouf in the team is just like having Savage, Shearer, Batty or Lucas Neill in your team.

He does have an edge to him but if he scores the goals to keep us up noone can complain can they ?

[Amo]

We all know the guy is a double-edged sword. He has the passion and skill, but he's also quick-tempered and deceitful. You need to take the rough with the smooth with a player like El-Hadji.

[Anti-Dingle-Brigade]

Could say the same about plenty of other good footballers, Rooney and Ronaldo spring to mind.

[LDRover]

Putting aside the spitting, diving and fighting from days gone by my own personal opinion on El Hadji Diouf is that he's actually not that good at football.

Effort - yes, committment - yes, spirit -yes, unfortunately little else.

[Harry Balls]

Putting aside the spitting, diving and fighting from days gone by my own personal opinion on El Hadji Diouf is that he's actually not that good at football.

Effort - yes, committment - yes, spirit -yes, unfortunately little else.

I beg to differ! But even if I'm wrong, there are tons of players who have very little natural footballing ability but prove to be very good footballers due to effort, commitment and spirit alone; one Robbie Savage immediately springs to mind...

For £2.5 million, Diouf was an absolute bargain in todays market, well in my opinion anyway.

[Blue n White Rover]

I beg to differ! But even if I'm wrong, there are tons of players who have very little natural footballing ability but prove to be very good footballers due to effort, commitment and spirit alone; one Robbie Savage immediately springs to mind...

For £2.5 million, Diouf was an absolute bargain in todays market, well in my opinion anyway.

You can add Dirk Kuyt to that. Liverpool have players such as Gerrard and Torres who can terrorise opponents, like today, and also have Dirk Kuyt who is willing to give it all for his club.

[Exiled in Toronto]

His goal versus Fulham may just be so valuable that he has the right to wear our shirt.

Benni was right behind him and would have smacked it in.

I too haven't seen much to suggest he will be the fulcrum of the team. Better than what we had, but Bert is hardly the yardstick we should be using

[rover6]

You can add Dirk Kuyt to that. Liverpool have players such as Gerrard and Torres who can terrorise opponents, like today, and also have Dirk Kuyt who is willing to give it all for his club.

Please!

How can you compare Kuyt and Diouf.

Kuyt's goal record, his ability to channel his effort to stay WITHIN the laws of the game, his ability NOT to play the pantomime villain in every game, his ability FULL STOP makes Diouf pale into insignificance.

I agree with those who say that Diouf is all bark and no real ability. However, it is only because our side contains absolute non-entities like Gamst (The Passenger) that Diouf looks half-useful.

Vratty Gresko looked half-useful compared to the Nils Eric Johansson. But that was not saying much.

[Paul Mellelieu]

Please!

How can you compare Kuyt and Diouf.

Kuyt's goal record, his ability to channel his effort to stay WITHIN the laws of the game, his ability NOT to play the pantomime villain in every game, his ability FULL STOP makes Diouf pale into insignificance.

I agree with those who say that Diouf is all bark and no real ability. However, it is only because our side contains absolute non-entities like Gamst (The Passenger) that Diouf looks half-useful.

Vratty Gresko looked half-useful compared to the Nils Eric Johansson. But that was not saying much.

Been on the alcopops again?

[Blue n White Rover]

Please!

How can you compare Kuyt and Diouf.

Kuyt's goal record, his ability to channel his effort to stay WITHIN the laws of the game, his ability NOT to play the pantomime villain in every game, his ability FULL STOP makes Diouf pale into insignificance.

I agree with those who say that Diouf is all bark and no real ability. However, it is only because our side contains absolute non-entities like Gamst (The Passenger) that Diouf looks half-useful.

Vratty Gresko looked half-useful compared to the Nils Eric Johansson. But that was not saying much.

Maybe if you bothered going to watch Rovers you'd see the amount of effort Diouf puts into his game. Likewise, Kuyt does the same. Kuyt isn't the most gifted player but his work rate and desire makes him get into that Liverpool squad week in week out. It's not about winding players up, Dioufy does that very well and sometimes it could work to our favour as it may make the opposition prone to a mistake.

Footballing wise Dirk Kuyt isn't miles ahead of Dioufy. Behaviour wise yes!

Big Difference!

[Hughesy]

Im sure Rover6 is a dingle or a fan of another club. Diouf makes one dodgy tackle and once again he should be in jail because of it.

As for LDRover - what do you know!

[waynerovers]

may be one dodgy tackle but it goes onto a long list of unsavoury incidents

[Hughesy]

I prefer to judge our players based on performances and incidents for us - I dont look at his previous clubs.

I know he played well at Hull & Fulham and scored a crucial goal, aswell as putting 1 dodgy tackle in today.

[thenodrog]

Some stupid people really p1ss me off! I cannot stand misplaced sanctimonious attitudes.

We are potless BRFC. We cannot pick and choose the worlds creme de la creme. We don't need to ask Ronaldo to know that he won't sign for us ffs do we? But Diouff has signed and for little money and he is a vast improvement on anything that we have had since Bentley went to Spurs for 17m. And what do some shallow dreamboat thinkers want? 3rd Div football and the likes of little Johnny Price (RIP) tear arseing down the wing! And if they dont get that its what they bloody well deserve. It appears that Jack Walkers real legacy is a lot of spoilt brats who think they are supporters, and worse still think they understand football chapter and bloody verse when in reallity they know sweet FA about owt.

[jonv]

DIOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUFYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[thenodrog]

Just watched this incident. He caught Almunia on his standing foot no question and it could have led to serious injury. That said although it was late it was low and I doubt he meant to turn Almunia's ankle as he did. I used to fly in late on keepers years ago not to kick em necessarily but to miss them close and try to frighten em enough so that next time there was a 50:50 or similar they would have one eye on the ball and one eye on me. Some backed out through intimidation, some didn't. Had to be done though.

[rover6]

Some stupid people really p1ss me off! I cannot stand misplaced sanctimonious attitudes.

We are potless BRFC. We cannot pick and choose the worlds creme de la creme. We don't need to ask Ronaldo to know that he won't sign for us ffs do we? But Diouff has signed and for little money and he is a vast improvement on anything that we have had since Bentley went to Spurs for 17m. And what do some shallow dreamboat thinkers want? 3rd Div football and the likes of little Johnny Price (RIP) tear arseing down the wing! And if they dont get that its what they bloody well deserve. It appears that Jack Walkers real legacy is a lot of spoilt brats who think they are supporters, and worse still think they understand football chapter and bloody verse when in reallity they know sweet FA about owt.

Actually, I think you'll find that we're being rational and consistent. You, however, are being a hypocrite.

You would be crying bloody murder if Diouf put that tackle in on Robinson. He'd deserve to be hung, drawn quartered and then fired into outer space.

However, he's a Blackburn player so....of course, he's an economically prudent investment with a slightly irritating but harmless penchant for diving, cheating and behaving something like neanderthal man in football boots.

You are also wrong to suggest that we can't do better than Diouf. We bliming well can. Burnley have got a better right winger than him - that says it all.