[Archived] Spit The Diouf

[Eddie]

I said I don't think he's improved us THAT MUCH and that he is better than the players who would have acted as cover for Emerton, but not better by a great deal and isn't a long-term solution. I still think the right midfield spot remains a very much unsolved problem for us.

[Tom]

I still think he's been a good signing for the money, gives us cover up front as well.

Lets just hope he refinds that extra yard of pace.

[47er]

I said I don't think he's improved us THAT MUCH and that he is better than the players who would have acted as cover for Emerton, but not better by a great deal and isn't a long-term solution. I still think the right midfield spot remains a very much unsolved problem for us.

So who would you have signed in January for 2M who would have been better?

[dellinsert]

Usain Bolt party, Manchester, last weekend...

[Hughesy]

Where them pics from? Did you attend dellinsert?

[dellinsert]

Where them pics from? Did you attend dellinsert?

No, a friend of mine did.

[Tris]

Usain Bolt party, Manchester, last weekend...

Can the quick bloke kick a football?

We already know the prat in the cap can't. Good first touch and then runs around in circles with the ball going nowhere. Nice shiny car ... seems more interested in the Manchester fashion scene than his supposed day job. Heaven only knows what satan was doing before he turned round ...

[47er]

Can the quick bloke kick a football?

We already know the prat in the cap can't. Good first touch and then runs around in circles with the ball going nowhere. Nice shiny car ... seems more interested in the Manchester fashion scene than his supposed day job. Heaven only knows what satan was doing before he turned round ...

A post which says much more about the writer than he intended target.

[thenodrog]

I think you asked for that Tris. You keep sniping at the Allardyce tenure. So why is that? Allardyces regime may not quite suit your principles but I rem that you defended the pillock that was here before to the hilt and beyond, so being kind I must say that imo all your objections have feet of clay in the eyes of the majority on here.

We are small town BRFC and thats that. It's obvious nobody wants to buy us and throw money in so we have to cut our coat according to our cloth and in that comparison Allardyce is like cashmire to Ince's polyester. Tell me is the fact that you are perhaps a little more 'kushti' with John Williams than the rest of us clouding your judgement? JW dropped a huge bollock last summer so let him fight his own battles on that account. Defending the indefensible by flogging the dead horse Ince will only damage your own credibility. I am still absolutely at a loss to find how easily JW was influenced last summer without any foundation whatsoever. As it is you need look no farther than the stats to see the difference between SA and PI. And SA has had to contend with more key injuries too imo.

[Tris]

A post which says much more about the writer than he intended target.

An answer which displays a clueless worship for tat rather than talent.

EHD has done nothing of any value since signing for Rovers, apart from firing up the imagination of people who need to latch on to the unusual rather than the useful. I've been to 11 of the last 12 games (the exception being Chelsea) so I'm not making this up on a whim.

He is unable to beat a man either on the inside or on the outside, and slows quick breaks down because of this.

Playing where he is being played, he should be popping up to score on a regular basis. The much maligned Keith Andrews has bagged 2 from right back since EHD came onto the scene, that's twice the single 6 inch tap in at Fulham from the forward. Andrews (like it or not) has created more chances as well - mainly through long diagonal punts as instructed by The Messiah.

The BBE has latched on to EHD because he's got stupid hair and tries to take corners from outside the flag area. And because he fits the Savage mould - loud but limited.

Keith Andrews fits the Wilcox mould - quiet but effective. But both are far better team players than EHD could ever be.

[Silencio]

An answer which displays a clueless worship for tat rather than talent.

EHD has done nothing of any value since signing for Rovers, apart from firing up the imagination of people who need to latch on to the unusual rather than the useful. I've been to 11 of the last 12 games (the exception being Chelsea) so I'm not making this up on a whim.

He is unable to beat a man either on the inside or on the outside, and slows quick breaks down because of this.

Playing where he is being played, he should be popping up to score on a regular basis. The much maligned Keith Andrews has bagged 2 from right back since EHD came onto the scene, that's twice the single 6 inch tap in at Fulham from the forward. Andrews (like it or not) has created more chances as well - mainly through long diagonal punts as instructed by The Messiah.

The BBE has latched on to EHD because he's got stupid hair and tries to take corners from outside the flag area. And because he fits the Savage mould - loud but limited.

Keith Andrews fits the Wilcox mould - quiet but effective. But both are far better team players than EHD could ever be.

Decent reply. Not sure about EHD myself and wonder why someone his age has slowed down so much without having major injuries. But have you got a good reason why you defended Ince to the hilt and are on Sam's back all the time?

[Mr. E]

Usain Bolt party, Manchester, last weekend...

this + the pic of his $$$$$$ Mercedes is a good example of everything that is wrong not just in football but in the world.

Quite tragic that some get to wear diamond-skull belts for kicking a football when all this eccentricity can feed many villages for months back on his continent.

Before the usual "it's his money he can do whatever the hell he wants with it" comments arrive, I'll just say that I'm also just as free to express my opinion on his actions and it is revolting and sickening no matter how you slice it. One would hope most of our players don't follow Hollywood gangsta-boy's example.

[Eddie]

this + the pic of his $$$$$$ Mercedes is a good example of everything that is wrong not just in football but in the world.

Quite tragic that some get to wear diamond-skull belts for kicking a football when all this eccentricity can feed many villages for months back on his continent.

Before the usual "it's his money he can do whatever the hell he wants with it" comments arrive, I'll just say that I'm also just as free to express my opinion on his actions and it is revolting and sickening no matter how you slice it. One would hope most of our players don't follow Hollywood gangsta-boy's example.

Whilst I agree with some of what you are saying and I don't like his dress sense, you're also wrong to make a point about "feed many villages for months back on his continent" or "follow Hollywood gangsta-boy's example". The fact that he is from Africa should have nothing to do with how classless and crude the flashy display of money is, whilst the fact that he set-up a foundation (although I have no idea how much it actually does) means that he is doing more than most footballers. You've really made two criticisms of him there based on him being black and African and your comment most likely wouldn't have been the same if we were talking about Bentley or Santa Cruz.

Sadly everyone wants to get rich and show everyone else that they are now and putting on a diamond skull belt is the only way that they can think to do it.

[47er]

An answer which displays a clueless worship for tat rather than talent.

EHD has done nothing of any value since signing for Rovers, apart from firing up the imagination of people who need to latch on to the unusual rather than the useful. I've been to 11 of the last 12 games (the exception being Chelsea) so I'm not making this up on a whim.

He is unable to beat a man either on the inside or on the outside, and slows quick breaks down because of this.

Playing where he is being played, he should be popping up to score on a regular basis. The much maligned Keith Andrews has bagged 2 from right back since EHD came onto the scene, that's twice the single 6 inch tap in at Fulham from the forward. Andrews (like it or not) has created more chances as well - mainly through long diagonal punts as instructed by The Messiah.

The BBE has latched on to EHD because he's got stupid hair and tries to take corners from outside the flag area. And because he fits the Savage mould - loud but limited.

Keith Andrews fits the Wilcox mould - quiet but effective. But both are far better team players than EHD could ever be.

Wilcox was a terrific player, capped by England and a Champioship medal winner. What similarity there is between Wilcox and Andrews occurs only in your fevered brain.

By "team player" what do you mean? Andrews does his best? EHD can't be accused of not trying and he seems passionate about his football. I'm left wondering what his car and his alleged love of the Manchester lifestyle (whatever that is) has to do with anything but your prejudices.

[Mr. E]

Whilst I agree with some of what you are saying and I don't like his dress sense, you're also wrong to make a point about "feed many villages for months back on his continent" or "follow Hollywood gangsta-boy's example". The fact that he is from Africa should have nothing to do with how classless and crude the flashy display of money is, whilst the fact that he set-up a foundation (although I have no idea how much it actually does) means that he is doing more than most footballers. You've really made two criticisms of him there based on him being black and African and your comment most likely wouldn't have been the same if we were talking about Bentley or Santa Cruz.

Sadly everyone wants to get rich and show everyone else that they are now and putting on a diamond skull belt is the only way that they can think to do it.

what are you talking about? It doesn't matter what color he is, but if he plays into the stereotype its his fault. And if those pictures and news stories of him don't do just that, than I don't know what would. My only point in mentioning his place of origin was to point out that he could be doing more to help them. Same for any other footballer or rich person. More can always be done. And I have no love loss for Bentley or Cruz either, though that's for different reasons as I haven't seen their public displays.

[47er]

what are you talking about? It doesn't matter what color he is, but if he plays into the stereotype its his fault. And if those pictures and news stories of him don't do just that, than I don't know what would. My only point in mentioning his place of origin was to point out that he could be doing more to help them. Same for any other footballer or rich person. More can always be done. And I have no love loss for Bentley or Cruz either, though that's for different reasons as I haven't seen their public displays.

Bentley did a TV interview ###### out of his brain didn't he? And if Douif wants to attend a party in Manchester and dress in a particular way what its got to do with us? I don't like his dress sense either but thats just my taste.

I don't follow---------unless it is colour prejudice in which case I understand very well.

[Ninjathunder]

this + the pic of his $$$$$$ Mercedes is a good example of everything that is wrong not just in football but in the world.

Quite tragic that some get to wear diamond-skull belts for kicking a football when all this eccentricity can feed many villages for months back on his continent.

Before the usual "it's his money he can do whatever the hell he wants with it" comments arrive, I'll just say that I'm also just as free to express my opinion on his actions and it is revolting and sickening no matter how you slice it. One would hope most of our players don't follow Hollywood gangsta-boy's example.

Going to a party and being photographed wearing some bling is revolting and sickening just because he's African? You've excelled yourself this time. What he's wearing is expensive and not to my taste but that's his decision - same as it's your decision to spend your money as you wish within your means, without having to justify yourself as regards your charitable donations. Why not post some pictures of stuff you've got, or a picture of you drunk, then we'll pass judgement as to whether you should have spend the beer money on a local hospice instead of being self indulgent?

[Mr. E]

Going to a party and being photographed wearing some bling is revolting and sickening just because he's African? You've excelled yourself this time. What he's wearing is expensive and not to my taste but that's his decision - same as it's your decision to spend your money as you wish within your means, without having to justify yourself as regards your charitable donations. Why not post some pictures of stuff you've got, or a picture of you drunk, then we'll pass judgement as to whether you should have spend the beer money on a local hospice instead of being self indulgent?

Before the usual "it's his money he can do whatever the hell he wants with it" comments arrive, I'll just say that I'm also just as free to express my opinion on his actions and it is revolting and sickening no matter how you slice it. One would hope most of our players don't follow Hollywood gangsta-boy's example.

Repeat #2. It's his decision to do it, and it's my decision to criticize it. Freedom of speech I believe?

[CrazyIvan]

EHD has proven nothing during his short stay at Rovers. He looks slow; slow of thought and of movement but he is occasionally creative. His lack of tracking back has left KA horribly exposed; just watch the Chelsea game as an example. I don't care what he wears or what car he buys but I would like to see some end result for the money we, as fans, pay. The strange thing is, he can actually run pretty quickly when he wants to but often he doesn't want to it seems. At the moment I am not his biggest fan and that has absolutely nothing to do with his previous record, it's based purely on what I've seen of him on the pitch.

Comparing him to KA is literally chalk and cheese. KA puts the work in week in week out, he may not be the most skillful player on the pitch but his willingness to run, work hard and get in the right places to score (and his willingness to have a shot some of our strikers could learn from!) has reaped rewards. He may not be fashionable or a big name but you can't argue that he brings something to the team when he plays. (Some still hate him because Ince signed him, time to let that one go I think.)

[Scotty]

I think Diouf's played quite well for us since he arrived. There's certainly players more deserving of criticism than he is anyway. All seems a bit odd to me.

[Amo]

Comparing him to KA is literally chalk and cheese.

Which one's made of which?

[thenodrog]

Quite tragic that some get to wear diamond-skull belts for kicking a football when all this eccentricity can feed many villages for months back on his continent.

That philosophy is flawed. Sure he could chuck a few million / every penny he has got at his country to feed a few hundred starving natives. Should it incredibly get past whatever murderous thugs are normally waiting to pounce then when it eventually runs out in a few years then indiscriminate breeding will ensure that the few hundred starving natives will have become a few thousand. What then?

[47er]

I think Diouf's played quite well for us since he arrived. There's certainly players more deserving of criticism than he is anyway. All seems a bit odd to me.

unless.............................

[thenodrog]

Freedom of speech I believe?

Thats just a distant memory. A principle of a democracy that we self righteously claim to uphold stoutly. Thruth is there is no such thing anymore.

[thenodrog]

I think Diouf's played quite well for us since he arrived. There's certainly players more deserving of criticism than he is anyway. All seems a bit odd to me.

Seconded. Not as much a threat as Bentley was (otherwise we'd have had to pay 17m), miles better than Derbyshire on the RW and a far far better crosser than Bert. His introduction has helped re-invigorate the attitude of the squad imo.

A few posters with hidden agenda's now appear to have formed their own little pressure group. Every little negative is blown up to huge proportions. I hesitate to believe it and I am mystified why but for some reason I feel that some would rather see us relegated than see the Allardyce regime prove to be successful for BRFC.