[Archived] Spit The Diouf

[Tom]

I think he's done well since he's been here, certainly a good signing for the money we paid, I just hope he can refind that yard of pace he used to posess.

Although he doesn't often beat a man he rarely loses possesion and puts in a wicked cross. I believe with a good header of the ball next season he'll get quite a few assists.

Also love or hate his attitude he certianly gets the fans pumped up and behind the team.

All in all Sams 2 big decsions in January in regard to incoming have paid dividends in my book, without Diouf and Givet things would look bleaker now.

[Kelbo]

Although he doesn't often beat a man he rarely loses possesion and puts in a wicked cross. I believe with a good header of the ball next season he'll get quite a few assists.

For the peeps who criticise him, isnt that all Beckham has ever done (free kicks apart) get the ball and deliver it into the box,

work hard and close down in front of the defence??

Really no need to beat a man, Beckham doesnt!!

[riverside returns]

Diouf has done more than just cross a ball, he holds it up to allow others into the play, he also takes more than one defender at a time out to the wing, this has proved very important in opening up gaps against Hull for instance. He also gets the crowd going and is a focal point.

[CAPT KAYOS]

As with others I didn't want him at the club .. but now he is here we had no other choice really to give him a chance.

Don't think he has done bad especially for the value and availability at the time , but vice versa not to great either especially on the goals front where I expected more -has contributed more than MGP though imo.

What he has done though is fill the gaping gap on the right that nobody else seem to be able to do- thus giving a better balance to the team.

Worryingly though , he does appear to have lost alot of pace that I thought he had and appears more of a stumbler than an effective beat your man winger - can certainly put in a decent cross though - shame we have nobody to get on the end of them.

[thenodrog]

Worryingly though , he does appear to have lost alot of pace that I thought he had and appears more of a stumbler than an effective beat your man winger - can certainly put in a decent cross though - shame we have nobody to get on the end of them.

Yet.

[CrazyIvan]

A few posters with hidden agenda's now appear to have formed their own little pressure group. Every little negative is blown up to huge proportions. I hesitate to believe it and I am mystified why but for some reason I feel that some would rather see us relegated than see the Allardyce regime prove to be successful for BRFC.

I hope you aren't putting me in this 'little group' as you put it because it couldn't be further from the truth. I was all for Big Sam when he arrived and still am. I'm honestly calling Dioufs performance as I see it. He hasn't contributed as much as I hoped or thought he would, he has genuinely dissapointed me this half season. I couldn't care less what he buys or wears because footballers taste is utterly skewed...

[philipl]

I am confused by the criticism of Diuof.

Yes he has no pace and is in all probability anything up to 6 years older than is claimed BUT El Hadj has given us something we were previously lacking- a midfield player who retains posession under pressure. He offers the reliable out ball in the middle of the park which we had missed since Bentley was sold.

His distribution is also pretty tidy as well.

That is what has made him so valuable an acquisition and why he has contributed so much to Rovers putting in a top half performance during Sam's reign.

[deryck guyler's spoon]

A few posters with hidden agenda's now appear to have formed their own little pressure group. Every little negative is blown up to huge proportions. I hesitate to believe it and I am mystified why but for some reason I feel that some would rather see us relegated than see the Allardyce regime prove to be successful for BRFC.

Described yourself back in August/September to a tee there.

[Jackson]

Brought here to do a job. The job is done and he has contributed. Cheaply. An effective sticking plaster on an ailing side and hopefully a great squad member for next season.

[Jan]

Described yourself back in August/September to a tee there.

But we were right!!

[T4E]

Described yourself back in August/September to a tee there.

In August/September the negatives were plentiful and harder to ignore than they were to highlight.

Now you have to look very hard. They are there, but they are significantly out-weighed by positives.

[gumboots]

EHD has proven nothing during his short stay at Rovers. He looks slow; slow of thought and of movement but he is occasionally creative. I don't care what he wears or what car he buys At the moment I am not his biggest fan and that has absolutely nothing to do with his previous record, it's based purely on what I've seen of him on the pitch.

I think there are some good points here. He's not done enough for me. He hasn't been the problem that I and many others feared but nor do I understand the "hero worship" that seems to go his way from the BBE lower. He's been adequate but little more. We needed to fill a gap; he's filled it but not as well as some suggested he would. He is slow, as Ivan said and seems too often to run down blind alleys. And his corners are not even an improvement on MGP

[deryck guyler's spoon]

But we were right!!

I was alluding to the point about agendas, blowing negatives out of proportion and seemingly wanting the manager to fail no matter what the impact on the club. Two of the guilty parties have answered so they know who they are.

Just for the record I'm no Allardyce fan just as I was totally underwhelmed by Ince's appointment. I dont whine and bellyache about Allardyce as I didn't about Ince. I want Allardyce to succeed in exactly the same way that I wanted Ince to suceed.

What good did the moaners do the club in the early days of Ince's tenure? I suppose they'll claim credit for his sacking.

[Mr. E]

A few posters with hidden agenda's now appear to have formed their own little pressure group. Every little negative is blown up to huge proportions. I hesitate to believe it and I am mystified why but for some reason I feel that some would rather see us relegated than see the Allardyce regime prove to be successful for BRFC.

Not me. As I said I very strongly dislike this type of character, but this is an off-topic discussion. On the field there have been a number of games where he's been one of the only ones trying to do something. And at least does a passable-job in his position, which is more than we had before he came. Yes, I would rather we had someone else, but he's certainly not at the top of things that need fixing this summer.

[thenodrog]

A few posters with hidden agenda's now appear to have formed their own little pressure group. Every little negative is blown up to huge proportions. I hesitate to believe it and I am mystified why but for some reason I feel that some would rather see us relegated than see the Allardyce regime prove to be successful for BRFC.

Described yourself back in August/September to a tee there.

Maybe .............. But as you know now I was always going to be proven right and therefore completely justified in my stance.

With the Allardyce haters it's different, by retaining our Prem status from an almost impossible position in Dec SA has already proved that he is a good leader and manager for BRFC. Yet there is still this undercurrent of hate and resentment from some of the people that backed the incompetent dud last summer in a froth of misguided euphoria. I know nobody likes being wrong but people will always make mistakes . It's why they put rubbers on pencils.

[gumboots]

Maybe .............. But as you know now I was always going to be proven right and therefore completely justified in my stance.

With the Allardyce haters it's different, by retaining our Prem status from an almost impossible position in Dec SA has already proved that he is a good leader and manager for BRFC. Yet there is still this undercurrent of hate and resentment from some of the people that backed the incompetent dud last summer in a froth of misguided euphoria. I know nobody likes being wrong but people will always make mistakes . It's why they put rubbers on pencils.

Actually he has proved he is good enough to keep us from getting relegated. It's what he does now he's given the chance to mould a team he actually wants rather than what other managers have left him that will prove whether he is the right manager for us. For what he's done so far I give him credit, but don't go getting too excited. This is Rovers and it could all still go pear-shaped in the not too distant future if he doesn't get sales and purchases correct.

[thenodrog]

Actually he has proved he is good enough to keep us from getting relegated. It's what he does now he's given the chance to mould a team he actually wants rather than what other managers have left him that will prove whether he is the right manager for us. For what he's done so far I give him credit, but don't go getting too excited. This is Rovers and it could all still go pear-shaped in the not too distant future if he doesn't get sales and purchases correct.

I agree. But I'm a damned sight more confident in this area than I was last close season.

[TimmyJimmy]

I know nobody likes being wrong but people will always make mistakes . It's why they put rubbers on pencils.

and I always though they were erasers, damn, mine must have fallen off.

[American]

Everyone knew who it was the moment he drove into the car park....

[Mc Love]

That is deadly ha ha

[Amo]

Everyone knew who it was the moment he drove into the car park....

...Batman?

[super_arran]

has anyone else noticed that when diouf is on the left wing and he receives the ball near to the touch line; he fannies around with it a lot?

it's like he can't or doesn't want to cross with his left foot. so wastes time gettin it on his right.

[Tom]

Isn't that what a right footed player on the left wing usually does, get the ball onto his better foot?

Not his best game today but put in some great balls still

[super_arran]

Isn't that what a right footed player on the left wing usually does, get the ball onto his better foot?

Not his best game today but put in some great balls still

but it slows the whole attack down. so players making runs have to slow down or fully stop.

it just seems daft that a player of diouf's calibre can't or wont cross with his weaker foot.

plus it makes it a lot easier to defend against someone you know doesn't like using their other foot.

[Tris]

He is unable to beat a man either on the inside or on the outside, and slows quick breaks down because of this.

This flaw was quite badly exposed today, Tugay put EHD into acres of space a couple of times with great passes but the momentum was lost because Diouf chose to do some 360 degree pirouettes around the ball.

Hopefully he'll regain some pace over the summer and return a more useful player next season ... but on current form Emerton will push him out of the side.