thenodrog Posted September 22, 2009 Posted September 22, 2009 thats racist! ' our country'? you dont have any more right to it than me , dioufy, anyone. were you born british passport in hand? you are disgraceful. how can I report this racism? Shut up Andrew you sound bloody stupid. btw Apologies if you are just on a wind up that I haven't spotted.
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Guest andrewpickup Posted September 22, 2009 Posted September 22, 2009 Shut up Andrew you sound bloody stupid. btw Apologies if you are just on a wind up that I haven't spotted. suggesting someone is a GUEST in OUR country to me is racist. whos country is this exactly?
waggy Posted September 22, 2009 Posted September 22, 2009 suggesting someone is a GUEST in OUR country to me is racist. whos country is this exactly? mine Racism isnt wanted on here Waggy!!! He probably called him a scouse prick or something, which will be classed as racism. Im suprised the assistant didnt hear it though as he was inbetween the player and ball boy - think its just the reaction of the crowd that has caused this...... yet you want of a player,darling of the blackburn end
broadsword Posted September 22, 2009 Posted September 22, 2009 Racism isnt wanted on here Waggy!!! He probably called him a scouse prick or something, which will be classed as racism. Im suprised the assistant didnt hear it though as he was inbetween the player and ball boy - think its just the reaction of the crowd that has caused this...... The linesman must've heard something because he had a word with Diouf after Diouf mouthed off to the ball-boy, you could see it on Sky Sports last night. andrewpickup is surely a troll, he gets his jollies trying to provoke people by saying harmless phrases are racist. He's come out with "you weren't born with an British passport in your hand" on a number of occasions.
thenodrog Posted September 22, 2009 Posted September 22, 2009 suggesting someone is a GUEST in OUR country to me is racist. So if I suggest that Nelsen, Jacobbson, Pederson, Grella, Andrews etc etc are guests in our country makes me a racist? You are either very shallow of thought or just plain stupid. Take your pick. andrewpickup is surely a troll, he gets his jollies trying to provoke people by saying harmless phrases are racist. He's come out with "you weren't born with an British passport in your hand" on a number of occasions. I think he was born with his knob in his hand and he's kept it there.
AggyBlue Posted September 22, 2009 Posted September 22, 2009 I think he was born with his knob in his hand and he's kept it there. No, that's on his head
mellison24 Posted September 22, 2009 Posted September 22, 2009 If that's racist then I'm Elvis and I'm about to fly to the moon for a game of golf with Lord Lucan (scoring only holes-in-one). 'A guest in our great country is not racist. It's not even classed as xenophobic because 'guest' implies he is welcomed. Andrew, don't be so uptight!
Guest andrewpickup Posted September 22, 2009 Posted September 22, 2009 So if I suggest that Nelsen, Jacobbson, Pederson, Grella, Andrews etc etc are guests in our country makes me a racist? if I invited you into my house, my house that i own you are my guest, however nobody has the divine right to decide who is invited into a certain country as nobody owns it, there is no higher hegemonic authority than the state. Racism is often related to ignorance, thats probably why you are so thick you cant grasp such a basic point. regarding this whole farce "white boy" isnt racist, skin colour has nothing to do with race, however if its reversed eg "black boy" unfortunatley that has a lot of negative historical connotations as for dioufy, i love him, but he doesnt help himself but he is made an easy scapegoat, its not like he beat up some asian lad in leeds put out a fag in another players eye ran away from a hit and run scene punched someone 3 times in a southport pub beat up ulrika johnson raped anyone cheated on cheryl cole
broadsword Posted September 22, 2009 Posted September 22, 2009 Skin colour has nothing to do with race, I've heard it all now. If no-one has the divine right to invite someone into the country why do we have a borders agency? Diouf is a guest in our country, he's been given a work permit.
Ninjathunder Posted September 22, 2009 Posted September 22, 2009 as for dioufy, i love him, but he doesnt help himself but he is made an easy scapegoat, its not like he beat up some asian lad in leeds put out a fag in another players eye ran away from a hit and run scene punched someone 3 times in a southport pub beat up ulrika johnson raped anyone cheated on cheryl cole Add "recorded Diamond Lights" to that list...
Guest andrewpickup Posted September 22, 2009 Posted September 22, 2009 Skin colour has nothing to do with race, I've heard it all now. If no-one has the divine right to invite someone into the country why do we have a borders agency? Diouf is a guest in our country, he's been given a work permit. can you determine someones race by skin colour alone? to suggest anyone is a guest is arrogant, providing he doesnt break the laws of the land he deserves to be here as much as you or i Add "recorded Diamond Lights" to that list... or forced his gay brother to hang himself
Eddie Posted September 22, 2009 Posted September 22, 2009 some would say the same to you re: the messageboard. But anyway, he's done ONE ALLEGED thing wrong. I'll bet my life savings (currently 10quid39p) that he didn't say anything bad and people accused him of racism whatever escaped his lips, just because of who he is. Good one.
CrazyIvan Posted September 22, 2009 Posted September 22, 2009 Add "recorded Diamond Lights" to that list... PMSL!!!
thenodrog Posted September 22, 2009 Posted September 22, 2009 to suggest anyone is a guest is arrogant, providing he doesnt break the laws of the land he deserves to be here as much as you or i Only if he holds UK citizenship. can you determine someones race by skin colour alone? In the main yes. The four main or primary races (granted there are many sub divisions) are Australoids, Caucasoids, Mongoloids, and Negroids. I guess Australoids and Negroids might prove a bit of a grey area but imo there are still enough distinguishable features to differentiate between the two.
philipl Posted September 22, 2009 Posted September 22, 2009 There is only the human race so far as I am concerned.
broadsword Posted September 22, 2009 Posted September 22, 2009 can you determine someones race by skin colour alone? to suggest anyone is a guest is arrogant, providing he doesnt break the laws of the land he deserves to be here as much as you or i Race and skin colour are closely linked, so no, not in every case. However, to say there is zero correlation is complete and utter twaddle. I've worked abroad before, and have needed a work permit. Believe you and me, I did not have the same rights as those who were born there. I could only hold a certain type of bank account for a start. I didn't feel victimised by race, it's just common sense. I was only allowed to live there because they needed my skills. Stop being such a fool. By the way I see you've managed to write your posts in sentence case now, well done. There is only the human race so far as I am concerned. You forgot the rat race.
Ray-Von Posted September 22, 2009 Posted September 22, 2009 Not like Scousers to be over-sensitive is it? And definitely not the same bunch of fans who used to throw bananas at John Barnes when he was at Liverpool?
longsiders1882 Posted September 22, 2009 Posted September 22, 2009 Joking aside, if found guilty then he could and should be looking at a ban of around 10 games - if you or I were found guilty of using abusive and racist language towards a player we would be banned from football for a lengthy period of time. This guy seems to court controversy wherever he goes.
USRoverME Posted September 22, 2009 Posted September 22, 2009 if I invited you into my house, my house that i own you are my guest, however nobody has the divine right to decide who is invited into a certain country as nobody owns it So, what you are saying is that YOU are allowed to own a small bit of land and decide who can come and who can go, but groups of people (aka countries) aren't allowed to claim ownership over larger pieces of land and decide who can come and who can go. That makes perfectly brilliant sence. Except that it doesn't.
LWX Posted September 22, 2009 Posted September 22, 2009 So, what you are saying is that YOU are allowed to own a small bit of land and decide who can come and who can go, but groups of people (aka countries) aren't allowed to claim ownership over larger pieces of land and decide who can come and who can go. That makes perfectly brilliant sence. Except that it doesn't. Except the countries (aka the governments, or coporate facilitators) don't act solely in the interests of the people they claim to represent... the land and its resources are owned by a tiny percentage of business men who then sell back, or rent, bits of it at extortionate prices. Most people have to work for a relative pittance while the elite few milk it. Small groups of people claiming ownership over large peices of land which are home to large groups of people doesn't seem at all right to me.
chocky Posted September 22, 2009 Posted September 22, 2009 if I invited you into my house, my house that i own you are my guest, however nobody has the divine right to decide who is invited into a certain country as nobody owns it, there is no higher hegemonic authority than the state. Racism is often related to ignorance, thats probably why you are so thick you cant grasp such a basic point. regarding this whole farce "white boy" isnt racist, skin colour has nothing to do with race, however if its reversed eg "black boy" unfortunatley that has a lot of negative historical connotations as for dioufy, i love him, but he doesnt help himself but he is made an easy scapegoat, its not like he beat up some asian lad in leeds put out a fag in another players eye ran away from a hit and run scene punched someone 3 times in a southport pub beat up ulrika johnson raped anyone cheated on cheryl cole I don't know you but they are right, you are a knob...he can call someone white boy and that's ok...But call him Black boy and thats isn't..?..Jesus you have put race relations back sixty years...And we do have the right to deport people we don't want and do it all the time...
Backroom Tom Posted September 22, 2009 Backroom Posted September 22, 2009 I think what Andrew is getting at is black people have been enslaved and treated like lesser beings for years in the past based on race alone, not many white people have. Hence there is more sensitivity towards racism to people of say African origin and rightly so in my opinion. If someone called me white boy I certainly wouldn't be offended in the least.
rebelmswar Posted September 22, 2009 Posted September 22, 2009 Racism isnt wanted on here Waggy!!! He probably called him a scouse prick or something, which will be classed as racism. Im suprised the assistant didnt hear it though as he was inbetween the player and ball boy - think its just the reaction of the crowd that has caused this...... Idiotic yes, racist no. Has he become a naturalized citizen of the UK yet? Not to fly to waggy's defence but judging by previous posts I think the statment is as subtle as a brick to the face, but harmless.
thenodrog Posted September 22, 2009 Posted September 22, 2009 I think what Andrew is getting at is black people have been enslaved and treated like lesser beings for years in the past based on race alone, not many white people have. Hence there is more sensitivity towards racism to people of say African origin and rightly so in my opinion. Are you sure TCO? What you say has certainly not been exclusive to black people. How about the Romans taking white slaves from all over Europe? What about Hitler persecuting the Jews and murdering 6m? What about Stalin making Hitler look a pussycat by practising genocide on 20m? Pol Pot? Mans inhumanity to man is certainly not confined to white on black despite popular myth.
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