[Archived] Spit The Diouf

[unluckymorton]

...apparently. It came via The Sun via Radio Monte Carlo...that's hardly a credible source, is it?

Good point Le Chuck. The media love it, it's easy meat for them.

[broadsword]

I couldn't see it either.

I couldn't not notice the absence of one, either.

[rebelmswar]

End of what? He has made a claim that he was racially abused, evidence points to him making it up. That’s acceptable behaviour to you because he plays in blue and white?

Fundamentally I think the argument is: What's more important morality or football?

...and for those of us who value morality above football (and loyalty to mercenary footballers) have to accept we are not true supporters, yes?

While I understand your point about morality, I do not wish to rake a Rovers player over the coals.

We all know that Diouf hears hate and bile spat at him in every ground he goes to, even Ewood. He may have had a rush of blood to the head when a cocky minor threw a ball at him in a less than respectful manner. I am sure he is subjected to more racial abuse that what he allegedly said to the scouse hatch-ling. This does not condone what he allegedly did, however, it does explain it.

As Rovers supporters we should give our opinion and then let it go.

Holding this against him and looking down upon one of our own never does any good.

You can have morals all you want.

You are also morally obligated to forgive.

[LWX]

I'm not an English teacher but he seemed to refer to himself in the third person- " All this is not El Hadji Diouf. I have not done anything ". It's worrying when people start referring to themselves in this fashion. Funny farm next stop.

Shearer used to do that in interviews when he played for us... and he did end up moving to a funny farm

[waggy]

I appreciate that this messageboard is for all to voice their opinions, but come on, it's a Rovers SUPPORTERS messageboard. Why do so many constantly come on here knocking players, management, prices, etc etc when we should be looking at positives? Other clubs must find it hilarious that more often than not, posts on here are knocking the club, the management and the players.

Diouf gives 100% for 90mins every time he pulls on a Rovers shirt, he's not exactly my idol but I respect what he does for us on the pitch and that's what counts. If all our players gave as much as Diouf does week in week out we'd be sitting a little further up the table. I'd rather he was playing for us than against us.

Diouf gets stick from all opposition fans, and he loves it. Lets all give him the support he deserves while sporting a Rovers top.

your wasting your time on here thwn this is the place for youfor blue and white eyes only

[Gav]

Nothing different about it den, it's the same boring drivel. Diouf, Big Sam, Andrews, the dreaded relegation 5 games into the season, the board....

It's just not a Rovers Fans website to me.

If you want a website where everyone thinks all our players are the greatest, managers the greatest, pies are the greatest etc etc then you're clearly in the wrong place, maybe you should look for an alternative site to post on?

Den is absolutely right, "What some see as "constant boring criticism" might just be a difference of opinion to others".

What makes, sorry made, this the best Blackburn Rovers site on the internet for the past 10yrs+ is that very fact, post what you want, everyone has a point of view, be it negative or positive, all views are welcome.

Here ends todays lesson

[gazsimm]

If you want a website where everyone thinks all our players are the greatest, managers the greatest, pies are the greatest etc etc then you're clearly in the wrong place, maybe you should look for an alternative site to post on?

Den is absolutely right, "What some see as "constant boring criticism" might just be a difference of opinion to others".

What makes, sorry made, this the best Blackburn Rovers site on the internet for the past 10yrs+ is that very fact, post what you want, everyone has a point of view, be it negative or positive, all views are welcome.

Here ends todays lesson

it's just a shame some people on here only post negative things though (not naming names). I bet these people were still moaning when we won the bloody league!

[Gav]

it's just a shame some people on here only post negative things though (not naming names). I bet these people were still moaning when we won the bloody league!

I'm sure I recall posting something positive about Mr Diouf after the Wolves game or maybe I just thought it.

[waggy]

I'm sure I recall posting something positive about Mr Diouf after the Wolves game or maybe I just thought it.

no that was me,oh that was the west ham game

[gazsimm]

I'm sure I recall posting something positive about Mr Diouf after the Wolves game or maybe I just thought it.

and i am glad you did, cos he played very well!

[Tris]

...apparently. It came via The Sun via Radio Monte Carlo...that's hardly a credible source, is it?

How can a radio interview with the player himself not be a credible source?

It was on RMC on Monday on Luis Fernandez' (former manager of PSG) football talk show.

Full transcript here (RMC website)

Podcast of the show here.

Of course introducing the banana claim into it meant the story was certain to end up in the English press ... If EHD thought otherwise then he needs urgent advice on when to take and when to refuse interviews. And also what to say in them apparently.

[jim mk2]

PA football DioufEVERTON DEMAND DIOUF APOLOGY

Everton have called on Blackburn striker El-Hadji Diouf to apologise and retract his claim that he was subjected to racial abuse during Sunday's Premier League match at Goodison Park.

Diouf is being investigated by Merseyside Police for alleged racial abuse of a 14-year-old ball boy at the match.

Diouf told police after the final whistle - and repeated the claim on Monte Carlo Radio - that bananas were thrown at him from the Everton crowd.

Officers immediately scoured the area next to the pitch and in the stands but no bananas were found. No pictures have surfaced to back up his claim either.

Everton's director of communications Ian Ross told talkSPORT that Diouf's claims about bananas being thrown were false.

He said: ``That is a wholly false allegation and I really would like him to retract that allegation and apologise to the supporters and staff of this football club.''

Ross added: ``I don't think there's a worse allegation in modern sport than racism and it works both ways. At the moment, and from my perspective, it looks like Mr Diouf is accusing Everton fans of racist behaviour.

``The police will tell you that is completely untrue and in such circumstances we would expect him to apologise and retract his allegations.

``We would like a retraction and an apology because they are completely groundless.

``We find them offensive and a lot of our supporters have been in touch with the club to say that they find them offensive.''

Ross stressed Everton would have acted on the claims if they had found any supportive evidence.

He explained: ``In the same way we wouldn't tolerate our supporters racially abusing a supporter, a member of staff or a footballer in the stadium, we don't really like the idea of a visiting footballer levelling that accusation at our supporters.

``We moved very quickly and had the allegation held any water at all, we would have said so.

``And the police certainly would have said so because we work very closely with their hate crimes unit through ourselves and through our community section, the Everton Foundation.

``But the police have confirmed today that the only investigation ongoing is into the allegations against Mr Diouf, not allegations of misbehaviour by Everton fans.''

end

[RibbleValleyRover]

I don't think they will get the apology, to be honest its just usual scousers overreacting.

Looking at two Everton forums Everton fans claim that objects were thrown at Diouf, not bananas but other objects. Surely this should be investigated as well? the throwing of objects by the crowd at players is just as unacceptable as any comments made by the player.

[ABBEY]

what would be the reaction if joey barton called someone a paki,ni**er or chink?

[trs]

Old Dioufy is getting it big time off Durham and Darren Gough at the moment on talksport.

Durham also dissing our club again (no change there then)

[Tim Southampton Rover]

The only way we can get rid of racism is by issuing those involved with heavy bans. We've seen in the past in places such as Spain where very small fines were issued yet the problem is still going on in Spain and they'll never learn. Anyone who is caught being racist should be punished. In Diouf's case, if it's true that he was racist and also lied about the bananas then I want Blackburn Rovers to suspend him. I know this won't help the club in the league but it's important that Blackburn are seen to be stamping it and won't accept it at the club.

[Tim Southampton Rover]

I don't think they will get the apology, to be honest its just usual scousers overreacting.

I think in the 1980's Everton had a big problem with racism and fans throwing bananas on the pitch. It took years to eradicate the problem from Goodison Park so fair play to them for demanding an apology from him and making a big fuss. It's important that we don't return to those days.

[Jeru tha Damaja]

Will the ball-boy be forced to apologise if Diouf is cleared of wrongdoing?

[martmitch]

the medias stoking up a right witch hunt over this (rightly so if he has lied), can see rovers being forced into taking serious action because of this...

[Stuart]

Old Dioufy is getting it big time off Durham and Darren Gough at the moment on talksport.

Durham also dissing our club again (no change there then)

Heard that on the way home tonight. I think Durham has his own agenda. He's pretty much campaigning for Rovers to sack Diouf. I've not heard him calling for other players to be sacked over racism issues. Little old Blackburn are a soft target. Diouf is one of the bad boys of English football so they're on to a winner in generating calls.

Secondly, there are certain clubs who are "protected species" on talksport. Any of the top 4, Man City (now they have money), West Ham, Celtic, and Everton.

It is interesting given the number of TV cameras at grounds that there hasn't been any footage which support OR refute Diouf's claims. All I've heard is reliance on photograph "evidence".

I've seen comments on here which back Diouf's version but nowhere else. The telling factor is that Diouf suggests that he reported it to one of the officials at the time but I've not seen any statement from any of the match officials at the game yet. Maybe they could shed some light.

All this said, Diouf has been in the English game long enough to know that you should keep your mouth shut - even if you think you are right.

[jonv]

I'd rather a player who had passion and a will to fight than a player who cares too much on how people will perceive him if he dare show some backbone.

yawn, move on + get over your queen of england up bringings

[Tom]

what would be the reaction if joey barton called someone a paki,ni**er or chink?

But he didn't allegedy say Cracker or similar all he has said is white boy, would it be an issue if he said blonde haired boy?

The whole thing is ridiculous and has turned into a Witch Hunt, I'll be sorely disappointed if Rovers take any action to appease the mob

[ABBEY]

But he didn't allegedy say Cracker or similar all he has said is white boy, would it be an issue if he said blonde haired boy?

The whole thing is ridiculous and has turned into a Witch Hunt, I'll be sorely disappointed if Rovers take any action to appease the mob

so if i walk up audley after and say brown boy they are going to cool with it?

[broadsword]

I don't think he meant "white boy" in a complimentary sense. Nor did he need to make it clear he was addressing that particular ball boy by reference to his skin colour.

It's a two-way street. "F*** off black boy" wouldn't go down too well now, would it?

[mellison24]

so if i walk up audley after and say brown boy they are going to cool with it?