Backroom Tom Posted September 24, 2009 Backroom Posted September 24, 2009 Nothing said could convince me this is any more than a storm in a teacup. If he 'racially abused' anyone within a foot or two of the linesman why wasn't he sent off?
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Tyrone Shoelaces Posted September 24, 2009 Posted September 24, 2009 Sorry about the double negative guys' I somehow missed out the end of the quote from The Guardian. Wouldn't you just know it - our binmen only come once a fortnight for old papers but today was the day and my copy has gone, so I can't recall exactly what he said. As I wrote it obviously there's nothing wrong with the second sentence. Anyone smarter than me care to check up with The Guardian on line.
unluckymorton Posted September 25, 2009 Posted September 25, 2009 Nothing said could convince me this is any more than a storm in a teacup. If he 'racially abused' anyone within a foot or two of the linesman why wasn't he sent off? Well said TCO, Diouf would have certainly been sent off if he had made a racist comment. The ball boy will have been told to 'throw' the ball to him as he did to wind him up, the fans took it from there. I've seen ball boys do similar at grounds around the country and if you do it to the right player they will bite. If Diouf does make an apology then that will be a big mistake, I think it has been blown out of all proportion already as it is Diouf and Blackburn, the media love it. In fact if somebody called me a 'white boy' I wouldn't have too much of an issue with it!
Tris Posted September 25, 2009 Posted September 25, 2009 It's the main backpage story in the Mail. I agree it's pathetic how the papers pick and choose their stories, but this was entirely avoidable. If Diouf had firstly kept his mouth shut on the pitch, and secondly on French radio - we wouldn't even be having the discussion. El Hadj Diouf is the problem here - not anonymous Everton fans with invisible fruit, or the linesman, or even the ballboy.
Manc Rover Posted September 25, 2009 Posted September 25, 2009 It's the main backpage story in the Mail. I agree it's pathetic how the papers pick and choose their stories, but this was entirely avoidable. If Diouf had firstly kept his mouth shut on the pitch, and secondly on French radio - we wouldn't even be having the discussion. El Hadj Diouf is the problem here - not anonymous Everton fans with invisible fruit, or the linesman, or even the ballboy. You can always rely on the Daily Mail to jump on the bangwagon and make a sensational story on their moral high grounds. Saying that, the whole sorry episode is utterly dispicable and we don't need it!
broadsword Posted September 25, 2009 Posted September 25, 2009 Nice mixed metaphor! :-) PS: Just to confirm then, it's OK to racially abuse white folks, and falsely accuse them of racism, but it's not on to racially abuse minorities. Glad we got that sorted then.
Gav Posted September 25, 2009 Posted September 25, 2009 El Hadj Diouf is the problem here - not anonymous Everton fans with invisible fruit, or the linesman, or even the ballboy. Exactly -
brfcs5359 Posted September 25, 2009 Posted September 25, 2009 Poor player, liability. Keith Andrews has more about it. At worst Andrews doesn't bring the club into disrepute.
Blueheart Posted September 25, 2009 Posted September 25, 2009 Nothing would surprise me about this character, he has done nothing to improve his repuation and certainly has damaged the club's reputation into the bargain. I have not yet seen him have a good game for Rovers, we can do without him IMO
waggy Posted September 25, 2009 Posted September 25, 2009 Nothing would surprise me about this character, he has done nothing to improve his repuation and certainly has damaged the club's reputation into the bargain. I have not yet seen him have a good game for Rovers, we can do without him IMO absolute tosh he's the DARLING OF THE BLACKBURN END,just ask hughsey
LDRover Posted September 25, 2009 Posted September 25, 2009 Nothing would surprise me about this character, he has done nothing to improve his repuation and certainly has damaged the club's reputation into the bargain. I have not yet seen him have a good game for Rovers, we can do without him IMO Fair shout. Seem to remember Nicko describing him as a 'cheerleader' , pretty good description IMO.
LeChuck Posted September 25, 2009 Posted September 25, 2009 Unless Dunn is playing off the striker, Diouf is probably the biggest goal threat we've got from midfield* - he scored against Wolves and hit the bar against Everton, he certainly supports the strikers far better than anyone else. *I appreciate this sentence doesn't actually say much given the competition.
unluckymorton Posted September 25, 2009 Posted September 25, 2009 Nothing would surprise me about this character, he has done nothing to improve his repuation and certainly has damaged the club's reputation into the bargain. I have not yet seen him have a good game for Rovers, we can do without him IMO No need to talk about waggy like that.
mellison24 Posted September 25, 2009 Posted September 25, 2009 Without Diouf, we'd have gone down. Fact. Get off your high horses and look at the concrete stuff we have: 1. Photos say no bananas were thrown etc. 2. They also show that the ball boy did not flinch (so he either didnt hear what was said, or nothing was said at all). 3. The linesman has stated that Diouf took exception to how the ball was thrown at him, but has also stated that neither party said anything offensive. Storm in a tea-cup driven by the Blackburn-hating media (and fans who ought to support the club and the players we employ, not to slag them off in a matter that is absolutely pathetic). I don't think anything was said, either way, but to add my tuppence, political correctness should end NOW. It is eradicating every last bit of humour and good-feeling left in this country. I'm deaf and get picked on. If it's jokey, I don't care and will laugh along. I'm only insulted if it is USED as an insult.
Guest andrewpickup Posted September 25, 2009 Posted September 25, 2009 Without Diouf, we'd have gone down. Fact. Get off your high horses and look at the concrete stuff we have: 1. Photos say no bananas were thrown etc. 2. They also show that the ball boy did not flinch (so he either didnt hear what was said, or nothing was said at all). 3. The linesman has stated that Diouf took exception to how the ball was thrown at him, but has also stated that neither party said anything offensive. Storm in a tea-cup driven by the Blackburn-hating media (and fans who ought to support the club and the players we employ, not to slag them off in a matter that is absolutely pathetic). I don't think anything was said, either way, but to add my tuppence, political correctness should end NOW. It is eradicating every last bit of humour and good-feeling left in this country. I'm deaf and get picked on. If it's jokey, I don't care and will laugh along. I'm only insulted if it is USED as an insult. spot on, 'racism' would have got him sent off. some people on here are pathetic, its all hearsay as to what happened really so until proven guilty he is ours so we should support him. re 'white boy' , racist terms are often offensive due to historical negative connotations, in no way does that apply to 'white boy'
T4E Posted September 25, 2009 Posted September 25, 2009 he scored against Wolves and hit the bar against Everton, he certainly supports the strikers far better than anyone else. The goal he scored against Wolves was all his own making thanks to sheer hard work. Thats what Diouf brings, and it shouldnt be underrated.
rebelmswar Posted September 25, 2009 Posted September 25, 2009 The goal he scored against Wolves was all his own making thanks to sheer hard work. Thats what Diouf brings, and it shouldnt be underrated. More so, he should be appreciated for it. I liked it better when we did not get into players personal lives. For me, at them moment, Diouf would be one of the first names on the team-sheet.
Ozz Posted September 25, 2009 Posted September 25, 2009 Without Diouf, we'd have gone down. Fact. Sorry David Brent, but that's not a fact. It's an opinion, which I disagree with.
rebelmswar Posted September 25, 2009 Posted September 25, 2009 Sorry David Brent, but that's not a fact. It's an opinion, which I disagree with. Do you think he helped out more than most though? Also do you think that he has been one of the better players thus far this season?
Ozz Posted September 25, 2009 Posted September 25, 2009 I thought his contribution last season was on a par with that of the Darwen End Stands. This season, meh, not overly convinced. Probably yes, but you don't need to do much this season to be one of the better ones!
rebelmswar Posted September 25, 2009 Posted September 25, 2009 Probably yes, but you don't need to do much this season to be one of the better ones! Sadly true, but he has been one of the bright sparks for me. I just hope that all of this nonsense does not result into some sort of action. Doubt that Diouf will apologize though.
roversmum Posted September 25, 2009 Posted September 25, 2009 Nor should he need to. As I said many posts ago, Dioufy's remark to the ball boy was the type of thing that would be said in everyday life where he comes from, and from the looks on the faces of the Everton fans in the pictures they were most certainly giving him some stick. Blown up out of all proportion. In a parallel universe, one Mr Hughes is standing stoutly by his player one Craig Bellamy who actually smacked a fan in the face.
rebelmswar Posted September 25, 2009 Posted September 25, 2009 Nor should he need to. As I said many posts ago, Dioufy's remark to the ball boy was the type of thing that would be said in everyday life where he comes from, and from the looks on the faces of the Everton fans in the pictures they were most certainly giving him some stick. Completely agree as I have said before, I am sure he was getting more abuse than he has ever given out. Lets face it, 20 years ago he could have given the lad a clip around the ear for his cheek. In a parallel universe, one Mr Hughes is standing stoutly by his player one Craig Bellamy who actually smacked a fan in the face. Lets be fair, in the same universe where Mr Hughes also defended the stamp. I defend and stick up for our players as much as practicable, but some things are impossible to defend and keep your credibility.
Stuart Posted September 25, 2009 Posted September 25, 2009 In a parallel universe, one Mr Hughes is standing stoutly by his player one Craig Bellamy who actually smacked a fan in the face. Good point, well made.
Backroom Tom Posted September 25, 2009 Backroom Posted September 25, 2009 Rovermum raises a good point, I think Sam should come out and back his player here. I actually wonder how many fans want to believe this is true rather than think it is as it would suit somes agendas.
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