[Archived] Spit The Diouf

[thenodrog]

Well I suppose that's one way to show the message board you have no knowledge about football.

Exactly Ex Rov......... Just another fully paid up member of Numpties Inc imo.

[Ricky]

Mellison - do you remember this? Do you support this on pitch cheating regardless of what happens?

If Ashley Young does that to us tomorrow to cheat us out of three points, but signs for Rovers next summer, is everything forgiven?

Cast your mind back to arsenal away last year.

Do you still support and cheer for Pedersen Tris???

[roversmum]

Yes, let's jump on the bandwagon and have another go at Peds.

Now, whilst we are at it, surely there are a few more of our players we can whinge about, we are the Rovers

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[Tim Southampton Rover]

Sack them all. They're all rubbish

[Gav]

You can forgive diving, but:

Anyone who spits in someone’s face cannot be defended, it matters not one jot that he wears a Rovers shirt, you cannot defend those sort of actions.

He’s just a scum bag, simple as that, and saying Everton fans threw bananas at him just firms up that opinion.

[thenodrog]

Cast your mind back to arsenal away last year.

Do you still support and cheer for Pedersen Tris???

Good point and dare I say it one of the best ref 'conners' that we have had at BRFC was Tugay. Don't know why but it was really funny when he fooled the officials. Not sure the opposition had many laughs though.

Second best for consistency was Paul Dickov (until the referees union sussed him that is).

Third place David Speedie. Who on here has ever comed all holier than though and condemned him for taking a dive at Wembley? C'mon be err honest. History proves that he made an absolute fortune for BRFC at the expense of Leicester City. If similar happened nowadays I' wager that it would be in the top ten the most lucrative cons in world history!! A minimum 60m blag from pure deception! In some countries they cut hands off for nicking a loaf of bread.

So c'mon all you standing there with hands full of stones who are so obviously without any sin whatsoever............ Is it cos EHD is black?

[AlanK]

You can forgive diving, but:

Anyone who spits in someone’s face cannot be defended, it matters not one jot that he wears a Rovers shirt, you cannot defend those sort of actions.

He’s just a scum bag, simple as that, and saying Everton fans threw bananas at him just firms up that opinion.

And yet people think they should defend him just because he is employed at Ewood. Staggering. And Theno, two posts now you have asked is it because he is black. Can`t help yourself can you? Must incite, must incite..........yawn!

[thenodrog]

And yet people think they should defend him just because he is employed at Ewood. Staggering. And Theno, two posts now you have asked is it because he is black. Can`t help yourself can you? Must incite, must incite..........yawn!

Really? I can't rem. Nice to see you are taking notice though. Look and Learn Alan.

btw "Must incite, must incite" How does that equate with your "Sack him" post? Have you managed to throw your rope over that tree branch yet?

[waggy]

I'll admit I was wrong then. But personally I don't care. Diouf is a rovers player and will get my support regardless of what happens. Why should he be punished for an alleged action (and subsequent lie), yet the fans who shouted abuse at him (without reason other than who it was). The ballboy not flinching is the clincher for me; if Diouf had said something that boy would have at least glanced back. Yes, Dioufy is stupid if he has lied, but if he didn't say anything racist, he should get a full apology (as well as having to apologise himself).

did your mates not see bananas thrown at spit,or was that a figment of your imagination

[thenodrog]

did your mates not see bananas thrown at spit,or was that a figment of your imagination

Supporters throwing bananas at people waggy? Hmmm how does that equate with "people throwing punches at supporters"? Or was that a figment of our imagination?

[waggy]

This aside from the fact that 3 everton supporting mates claim bananas were thrown at him. They told me this on Sunday before it became news. Obviously Diouf ain't lying.

nothing to do with punches gordon

[dazmaz]

You can forgive diving, but:

Anyone who spits in someone’s face cannot be defended, it matters not one jot that he wears a Rovers shirt, you cannot defend those sort of actions.

He’s just a scum bag, simple as that, and saying Everton fans threw bananas at him just firms up that opinion.

you seem to be talking like you know him personally, is his house chrome like his cars? funny thing is all these people calling him this that and the other dont know a single thing about him. what he has done in the past is just that, in the past. sadly i dont think he has a time machine at home. everyone deserves a secound chance so why dont you let him have one?? minus the recent incident (which imo is bull as the linesman would of heard) Diouf hasnt done a thing wrong in blue and white halves

[Gav]

you seem to be talking like you know him personally, is his house chrome like his cars? funny thing is all these people calling him this that and the other dont know a single thing about him. what he has done in the past is just that, in the past. sadly i dont think he has a time machine at home. everyone deserves a secound chance so why dont you let him have one?? minus the recent incident (which imo is bull as the linesman would of heard) Diouf hasnt done a thing wrong in blue and white halves

The one thing I do know about him is he spits at people, I don't need to know anymore, and it wasn't an isolated incident either. For people to say "he wasn't playing for us at the time" is as AlanK says: STAGGERING

[AlanK]

what he has done in the past is just that, in the past

Then why are we discussing what he is doing now, in the present?

Really? I can't rem. Nice to see you are taking notice though. Look and Learn Alan.

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[ABBEY]

Diouf hasnt done a thing wrong in blue and white halves

so white boy is ok then ? remind whose shirt he was wearing last week?

[Tom]

Innocent until proven guilty and all that eh Abs?

Out of interest and this is all hypothetical but if Big Al was still wearing blue and white when he kicked Lennon in the head would you have all been calling for him to be sacked etc? Surely thats as bad as spitting etc?

[ABBEY]

tco do quote me where ive said sack him.

[Tim Southampton Rover]

I thought they found Shearer not guilty of purposely kicking him in the head.

[Tom]

Sorry Abbey that part wasn't aimed at you rather the people a few pages back, if anything surely you would have said we should 'positively deselect' him no?

[joey_big_nose]

Nice boots today....

[Tom]

I thought he was great today until subbed, withing 3 minutes of the second half starting he'd best his man and put 3 great balls in

[Gav]

Nice boots today....

Looked like bananas to me, did he wear them at Everton, we could wrap the mystery up now

[leftfooter]

Though not picked up by any microphone, after reading the last several pages on this thread one would be forgiven for thinking that the following scenario occurred:

"Diouf (flustered): I say, my fair-skinned laddie, do pass the d*mn ball, what!

Ball boy (with compensatory 'victim of crime' gleam in his eye): I'll see your black, Muslim vicarious suffering at the hands of a vindictive racist white economic elite, Mr. Diouf and raise you my mawkish Scouse sentimentalised martyr complex..."

Game over as Diouf overplays his hand in the victimhood stakes.

At that point, Diouf should have realised the game was up. Nothing trumps the lowest common denominator in our vacuous society like Liverpudlian working class whining, and he should have gracefully withdrawn with any residual dignity he could muster. If he wishes to rely on the prestige and benefits conferred by the status of victimhood in nu-Britain, El Hadji Diouf should learn when to pick his fights. In this case he is guilty of the cardinal sins of both underestimating his opponent and the fathomless reservoirs of maudlin self-righteous pity in which Liverpudlians are capable of sinking.

It's not so surprising really, given the patronising manner in which any afflicted minority in the UK who considers him- or herself - to be oppressed and discriminated against by the vindictive white male hegemony is indulged by all manner of public bodies and quangos. He surely never imagined that by shouting racism in a crowded stadium, he would not somehow be vindicated After all, he had not been shown enough 'wespect' by a white boy and as such, doesn't this awful little urchin somehow represents the metaphoric subjugation of black people over the centuries?

Diouf has however been exposed and ridiculed as a lout and a liar and there, in any healthy society it would end. But we no longer live in a healthy society and it is now in the hands of the police. Kenan Malik notes, multiculturalism as a lived and shared experience and multiculturalism as an enforced ideology are not the same things and punitive laws should not be the way to foster harmonious community relations. Such is the folly of forcing of racial and religious harmony by legal diktat. We are now left to ponder yet another vapidly symbolic but highly expensive relic of nu-Labski legislation. Stupid, ill-educated Diouf, who despite his wealth and success cuts a ridiculous figure and may now be dragged before a court for the offence of uugh, 'giving offence'; another scapegoat on the vacuous altar of racial sensitivity and political correctness.

Despite the brouhaha however, there is something gruesomly ironic about the politically correct wallahs that post on this MB, either defending racism in the raw, or like ostriches with heads planted firmly in the sand, in shameless self-denial. No quarter can be given to this 14 year old white ballboy. After all, we’ve seen and heard quite enough of white children, haven’t we? Especially those white children not humble enough to apologise to black people for centuries of European slavery and discrimination. Perhaps Flopsy, Bucky Rover and the other PC ayatollahs are telling us, by resounding omission or silence, that the horrible white child had rather typically refused to apologise to Diouf and they in kind shall therefore treat him with the contempt he deserves!

Imagine if it was Keef rather than Diouth that mouthed such a racial inversion of the same sentiments to a non-white ballboy? Would the same cringing apologists point out that Keef was Irish and over the years his people had been starved and politically oppressed by colonialists and consequently he should be judged by different normative standards than our fellow residents and citizens? I rather suspect we would have the usual fatuous posts from the mortally offended, actually more interested in displaying and congratulating themselves on their impeccable humanitarian credentials and baying for poor old Keef to be slung in the slammer and the key thrown away.

But if it is a good thing that we censure all forms of racism by white people, then surely it behoves those that instantly screech 'raaaacist' at the mere suggestion of oppression or insensitivity by white people, to equally excoriate any manifestation of such behaviour aimed at white people? For example, how can the club justify a policy of ejecting and banning those mindless individuals shouting racist abuse at black footballers from the stands, but tolerate a yobbish idiot doing exactly the same on the pitch at a white ballboy? In other words, you cannot insist that the Lee Bowyer's of this world are hauled over the coals because they behave in a loutish and racist manner and then, start aplogising for the likes of Diouf when he behaves in exactly the same manner. Those that live by the race card, die by the race card.

[joey_big_nose]

Looked like bananas to me, did he wear them at Everton, we could wrap the mystery up now

I thought it was quite witty, even if I don't actually like Diouf as a person at all!

Played extremely well today as well. To be honest he has been an excellent addition to the team. One of his main attributes is he can hold on the ball for ten to fifteen seconds no hassle which allows us to load the box. At one point he was toying with three Villa players.

[leftfooter]

I think what Andrew is getting at is black people have been enslaved and treated like lesser beings for years in the past based on race alone, not many white people have.

Hence there is more sensitivity towards racism to people of say African origin and rightly so in my opinion.

If someone called me white boy I certainly wouldn't be offended in the least.

TCO, unless you believe guilt is genetically inherited, try not to beat yourself up over it.

You're skirting the issue, albeit for decent, but ultimately deluded reasons. You should try to drag yourself away from (or at least try not to drag the rest of us down) that now long redundant and counterproductive mindset that insists in seeing any minority, defined by their deeply regrettable lack of whiteness, as oppressed and victimised - and that somehow you should therefore apologise to them - even if you, subsequently become a victim of their own brand of modern day foul-mouthed persecution.

The British Parliament voted to abolish slavery long before Queen Victoria was even born. Besides which, the elephant in the room - African complicity in slavery - is widely documented but rarely mentioned. How do you think the Europeans could have acquired such large numbers of Africans without the connivance of their fellow Africans? The fact is, Europeans bought the vast majority of their slaves from Africans. A similar tale to tell concerns the Islamic slave trade, which long predated and continued long after the Atlantic trade. The Saudi royal retinue attending the coronation of Queen Elizabeth II contained a large number of African slaves and the modern day slavery of Philippines’ and Bangladeshi's in the Gulf states is well documented. Meanwhile child slavery in western Africa is endemic.

That TCO is really offensive.