[Archived] Spit The Diouf

[rebelmswar]

Really now? Really?

This is getting ridiculous.

I take it we will be seeing stories in the paper every time any player goes to see his old mates play?

Funny thing is I don't remember seeing any when Dunny used to watch Rovers whilst at Brum.

I agree TCO, a football player goes to watch some of his ex team mates play a game of football!! What a scandal.

We should not be surprised though by this tabloid sensationalism, next week we will probably get "Diouf's 5 step banana diet to loose 25 pounds in three weeks."

[broadsword]

Is that diet suitable for white boys too?

[rebelmswar]

Is that diet suitable for white boys too?

Its better than that, its designed for white boys.

[waggy]

attacks the club captian lovelyboy

[T4E]

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What is a 'clearing in the woods'?

[Anti-Dingle-Brigade]

You have come into a clearing in the woods

and want to live your life out, here, alone,

joyous and remote among the catbirds

letting the light fall on you and the shade

in hourly changing angles as a grace

endlessly descending among tree limbs

while growing in you is the will to grow

mindless of the niggling everyday

profusion of detail by which you know

uselessly the names and dates and shape of things.

After a while, you will begin to sing.

Harmless and plentiful you make the sounds.

Bent on nothing that does not bend with ease

you and your song rise in the leafy air

chancy as bass spawn in a mallard’s underwings.

[Jeru tha Damaja]

attacks the club captian lovelyboy

As club captain, Nelsen should have known better than to attack Diouf's performance in front of the rest of the squad. Everyone knows that he has to be handled with kid gloves, so why Nelsen thought it would be appropriate to single him out for criticism in the dressing room is beyond me. Diouf was not our worst player on the day, and he had already been aggravated before being confronted with unreasonable and unhelpful comments, what reaction was expected from him?

I suggest Nelsen gets his own performances up to an acceptable level before he starts pointing out where other people are going wrong.

Furthermore, spats in the dressing room or on the training ground are commonplace, this one has only received attention because of who is involved.

[T4E]

Ah.

Thanks!

[super_arran]

As club captain, Nelsen should have known better than to attack Diouf's performance in front of the rest of the squad. Everyone knows that he has to be handled with kid gloves, so why Nelsen thought it would be appropriate to single him out for criticism in the dressing room is beyond me. Diouf was not our worst player on the day, and he had already been aggravated before being confronted with unreasonable and unhelpful comments, what reaction was expected from him?

I suggest Nelsen gets his own performances up to an acceptable level before he starts pointing out where other people are going wrong.

Furthermore, spats in the dressing room or on the training ground are commonplace, this one has only received attention because of who is involved.

Nelsen is captain for a reason and part of his job is to be the managers voice in the changing room.

It doesn't matter if he's playing badly or brilliantly; he wants the players to be playing as a team; and it seems like he didn't think Dioufy was doing.

Why should he speak to Diouf any differently than any other player? If he had a bad attitude that day; he should be told. That's what captains are there for. We can't treat Dioufy nicely just because he might not like what's being said.

Whose to say Nelly didn't have a go at any other player? He might well have done and they might have acted professionally and listened to him?....we'll never know

[Tom]

Isn't the job of being the managers voice in the changing room down to the manager himself?

Who's to say this story isn't fabricated anyway?

[super_arran]

Isn't the job of being the managers voice in the changing room down to the manager himself?

Who's to say this story isn't fabricated anyway?

Yeh I know what you mean.

I meant like the managers voice; player to player kind of thing?

Much like Keane was at United. Expects the very best out of the players all of the time and isn't too scared to speak their mind, no matter who it is.

[Jeru tha Damaja]

Nelsen is captain for a reason and part of his job is to be the managers voice in the changing room.

It doesn't matter if he's playing badly or brilliantly; he wants the players to be playing as a team; and it seems like he didn't think Dioufy was doing.

Why should he speak to Diouf any differently than any other player? If he had a bad attitude that day; he should be told. That's what captains are there for. We can't treat Dioufy nicely just because he might not like what's being said.

Whose to say Nelly didn't have a go at any other player? He might well have done and they might have acted professionally and listened to him?....we'll never know

That's the kind of attitude that leads to inflammatory situations like this one. Yes, Diouf should be told if he has played badly or not put in enough effort (although most of the others at Everton were far worse offenders on both counts), but there is a time and a place for such things. If you approach him in private, with a bit of tact, then I'm sure a productive conversation would ensue. However, confronting him with such unwarranted and unhelpful comments in front of his peers is not the way to handle a volatile character like Diouf.

Maybe part of a captain's role is to ease communication between players and management, but surely they also have to take some responsibility for squad morale, which will not be helped by seeing their 'leader' get into fights with members of the squad. This whole episode has been caused by a severe error in judgement by Nelsen.

[jim mk2]

That's the kind of attitude that leads to inflammatory situations like this one. Yes, Diouf should be told if he has played badly or not put in enough effort (although most of the others at Everton were far worse offenders on both counts), but there is a time and a place for such things. If you approach him in private, with a bit of tact, then I'm sure a productive conversation would ensue. However, confronting him with such unwarranted and unhelpful comments in front of his peers is not the way to handle a volatile character like Diouf.

Maybe part of a captain's role is to ease communication between players and management, but surely they also have to take some responsibility for squad morale, which will not be helped by seeing their 'leader' get into fights with members of the squad. This whole episode has been caused by a severe error in judgement by Nelsen.

And there speaks a person who has never been in a football dressing room.

The dressing room is no place for niceties and if footballers want to get something off their chest, it sometimes ends in a fight.

These people are competive top-class sportsmen, not office workers.

Nelsen confronted Diouf because as captain he felt it needed to be done on behalf of the team. That Diouf could not take the criticism is his problem.

[joey_big_nose]

Well it didn't seem like there was any problem when we were playing Villa.

Doesn't seem an issue...

[rebelmswar]

Well it didn't seem like there was any problem when we were playing Villa.

Doesn't seem an issue...

Nor should there be.

His Dioufyness got his ass chewed by the captain and didn't like it. He still had the ass chewing and who knows it may have been good for him. If him and Nelsen got out a bit of testosterone all the better. Nothing charges the batteries like a bit of brotherly fisticuffs.

He seemed to play better against Villa.

[OscarRaven]

Manager disagree's with Nelson's assessment

When asked if Diouf would be involved agains't Villa, Allardyce said: “Why not? He is as fit as a fiddle. He played very well last Sunday (Everton), one of the few players that performed as he should have done. There are no problems."

[92er]

Manager disagree's with Nelson's assessment

When asked if Diouf would be involved agains't Villa, Allardyce said: “Why not? He is as fit as a fiddle. He played very well last Sunday (Everton), one of the few players that performed as he should have done. There are no problems."

And yet the quote in the LT after the match was along the lines that only Samba, and to a lesser extent Robinson, had played well.

[Steve Moss]

According to Tribal, Diouf has been sighted in the VIP box at Bolton games.

[Shabani]

Well, who wouldn't want to play under Gary Megson?

[waggy]

i believe he wore yellow boots on sat,el hadj doiuff were's bannanas on his feet

[bellamy11]

i believe he wore yellow boots on sat,el hadj doiuff were's bannanas on his feet

Pretty sure he didn't. Good effort though.

[Hughesy]

Pretty sure he didn't. Good effort though.

Which bit? He DID wear yellow boots on saturday.

[bellamy11]

Which bit? He DID wear yellow boots on saturday.

Hmm, apparently so. Must have been getting confused with Chimbonda who wore yellow boots earlier this season. A few of us at the game noticed loads of yellow stuff during the match, no doubt designed to intimidate EHD.

[T4E]

Hmm, apparently so. Must have been getting confused with Chimbonda who wore yellow boots earlier this season. A few of us at the game noticed loads of yellow stuff during the match, no doubt designed to intimidate EHD.

You and I actually had a conversation about Diouf and his yellow boots.

Layoff the strongbow dude.

[bellamy11]

You and I actually had a conversation about Diouf and his yellow boots.

Layoff the strongbow dude.

It's been a heavy few days