[Archived] Relegation Watch

[philipl]

Keep up the good work! I'm sure theNewcastle fans would enjoy a look at this

The usual Fair Play table joke!

How exactly Arsenal, Chelea, Liverpool and the Mancs show greater respect to officials and opponents than we do is completely beyond me!

[gumboots]

The usual Fair Play table joke!

How exactly Arsenal, Chelea, Liverpool and the Mancs show greater respect to officials and opponents than we do is completely beyond me!

Look on the bright side. we're not bottom. Days like Sunday when the ref was sensible and kept his cards in his pocket, although there were one or two incidents that perhaps merited a booking, are great.

[roversmum]

Which only goes to prove, as you say Philip, the whole thing is a joke - in fact it's more than that it's an abomination... How I long to see fair and consistent refereeing. I also can't remember when our players did not show the referee respect, they rarely surround him and make a fuss as some do *eg Chelsea...*! Mind you, that glare Diouffy gave Sunday's referee after he'd been flattened by a Wigan player would have had a lesser man rushing for counselling!

[berkshireblue]

Bigchrissamba

some fair points re crowd with the geordies

You forgot to mention we d won 2 out of the 3 major trophies in the last 14 years, the barcodes have won siltch!!!

The sooner they go down and join Leeds the better, arrogant tw***

[tony gale's mic]

Bigchrissamba

some fair points re crowd with the geordies

You forgot to mention we d won 2 out of the 3 major trophies in the last 14 years, the barcodes have won siltch!!!

The sooner they go down and join Leeds the better, arrogant tw***

You don't want to play all your cards at once

[riverside returns]

agree with tony gale, another 7 days and the nail could be in place and ready to hammer home in a metaphorical sense.

[brfcs5359]

West Broms Fixtures - Points 28

Maybe 35/36 points may be enough? The Fulham Houdini Team?? Need 8 points. Two wins two draws - unlikely.

West Ham v West Brom, 20:00

West Brom v Bolton, 15:00

West Brom v Stoke, 15:00

Portsmouth v West Brom, 15:00

Man City v West Brom, 15:00

West Brom v Sunderland, 15:00

Tottenham v West Brom, 15:00

West Brom v Wigan, 15:00

West Brom v Liverpool, 15:00

Blackburn v West Brom, 16:00

Hulls Fixtures - Points 34

Still relying on Newcastle after another defeat. Stoke at home is a massive game at home a MUST MUST win. Look like joining Boro, WBA in the Championship.

Wigan v Hull, 13:30

Hull v Portsmouth, 1

Middlesbrough v Hull, 15:00

Sunderland v Hull, 15:00

Hull v Liverpool, 15:00

Aston Villa v Hull, 15:00

Hull v Stoke, 15:00

Bolton v Hull, 15:00

Hull v Man Utd, 16:00

Stokes Fixtures - Points 39

Almost out of it now. The rest faltering.

Stoke v Middlesbrough, 15:00

West Brom v Stoke, 15:00

Stoke v Newcastle, 17:30

Stoke v Blackburn, 15:00

Fulham v Stoke, 15:00

Stoke v West Ham, 15:00

Hull v Stoke, 15:00

Stoke v Wigan, 15:00

Arsenal v Stoke, 16:00

Newcastle Fixtures - Points 31

Portsmouth home draw. Only HULL can save this lot. Blank sheet after blank sheet. 65% possession to Pompey at home. Enuf said.

Newcastle v Arsenal, 17:30

Newcastle v Chelsea, 15:00

Stoke v Newcastle, 17:30

Tottenham v Newcastle, 15:00

Newcastle v Portsmouth, 20:00

Liverpool v Newcastle, 15:00

Newcastle v Middlesbrough, 15:00

Newcastle v Fulham, 15:00

Aston Villa v Newcastle, 16:00

Portsmouths Fixtures - Points 38

Finally came good with late late home win to Bolton. Draw at Barcodes. Safe till next season with all the good players gone and James OTH. Back this shambles to go down next season.

Portsmouth v Everton, 12:45

Hull v Portsmouth, 15:00

Portsmouth v West Brom, 15:00

Portsmouth v Bolton, 15:00

Man Utd v Portsmouth, 20:00

Newcastle v Portsmouth, 20:00

Portsmouth v Arsenal, 15:00

Blackburn v Portsmouth, 15:00

Portsmouth v Sunderland, 15:00

Wigan v Portsmouth, 16:00

Middlesbroughs Fixtures - Points 31

Must beat Fulham but after that it looks all over. It's all over! Ditto Barcodes, only HULL can save this lot. Just maybe 35 points will be enough. Hull v Stoke maybe the defining moment in this saga. Must win at Newcastle and West Ham or get something at home to Villa. Unlikely.

Stoke v Middlesbrough, 15:00

Bolton v Middlesbrough, 15:00

Middlesbrough v Hull, 15:00

Middlesbrough v Fulham, 15:00

Arsenal v Middlesbrough, 13:30

Middlesbrough v Man Utd, 15:00

Newcastle v Middlesbrough, 15:00

Middlesbrough v Aston Villa, 15:00

West Ham v Middlesbrough, 16:00

Blackburns Fixtures - Points 37

Easy street... Big Sam has an extra month to get his shopping list together!

Blackburn v West Ham, 15:00

Blackburn v Tottenham, 12:45

Liverpool v Blackburn, 12:45

Stoke v Blackburn, 15:00

Blackburn v Wigan, 16:00

Man City v Blackburn, 15:00

Blackburn v Portsmouth, 15:00

Chelsea v Blackburn, 15:00

Blackburn v West Brom, 16:00

Sunderland Fixtures - Points 35

The next two are CUP FINALS. Part 1 complete with poor 1-0 win over Hull. Part 2 next week at WBA could see Sunderland pushing for safety. Half a job. One win or two draws should be ok. Hull and Barcodes come good (not likely), this lot may get caught on the last day.

Man City v Sunderland, 15:00

West Ham v Sunderland, 15:00

Sunderland v Man Utd, 15:00

Sunderland v Hull, 15:00

West Brom v Sunderland, 15:00

Sunderland v Everton, 15:00

Bolton v Sunderland, 15:00

Portsmouth v Sunderland, 15:00

Sunderland v Chelsea, 16:00

[gumboots]

West Broms Fixtures - Points 28

Maybe 35/36 points may be enough? The Fulham Houdini Team?? Need 8 points. Two wins two draws - unlikely.

West Ham v West Brom, 20:00

West Brom v Bolton, 15:00

West Brom v Stoke, 15:00

Portsmouth v West Brom, 15:00

Man City v West Brom, 15:00

West Brom v Sunderland, 15:00

Tottenham v West Brom, 15:00

West Brom v Wigan, 15:00

West Brom v Liverpool, 15:00

Blackburn v West Brom, 16:00

Hulls Fixtures - Points 34

Still relying on Newcastle after another defeat. Stoke at home is a massive game at home a MUST MUST win. Look like joining Boro, WBA in the Championship.

Wigan v Hull, 13:30

Hull v Portsmouth, 1

Middlesbrough v Hull, 15:00

Sunderland v Hull, 15:00

Hull v Liverpool, 15:00

Aston Villa v Hull, 15:00

Hull v Stoke, 15:00

Bolton v Hull, 15:00

Hull v Man Utd, 16:00

Stokes Fixtures - Points 39

Almost out of it now. The rest faltering.

Stoke v Middlesbrough, 15:00

West Brom v Stoke, 15:00

Stoke v Newcastle, 17:30

Stoke v Blackburn, 15:00

Fulham v Stoke, 15:00

Stoke v West Ham, 15:00

Hull v Stoke, 15:00

Stoke v Wigan, 15:00

Arsenal v Stoke, 16:00

Newcastle Fixtures - Points 31

Portsmouth home draw. Only HULL can save this lot. Blank sheet after blank sheet. 65% possession to Pompey at home. Enuf said.

Newcastle v Arsenal, 17:30

Newcastle v Chelsea, 15:00

Stoke v Newcastle, 17:30

Tottenham v Newcastle, 15:00

Newcastle v Portsmouth, 20:00

Liverpool v Newcastle, 15:00

Newcastle v Middlesbrough, 15:00

Newcastle v Fulham, 15:00

Aston Villa v Newcastle, 16:00

Portsmouths Fixtures - Points 38

Finally came good with late late home win to Bolton. Draw at Barcodes. Safe till next season with all the good players gone and James OTH. Back this shambles to go down next season.

Portsmouth v Everton, 12:45

Hull v Portsmouth, 15:00

Portsmouth v West Brom, 15:00

Portsmouth v Bolton, 15:00

Man Utd v Portsmouth, 20:00

Newcastle v Portsmouth, 20:00

Portsmouth v Arsenal, 15:00

Blackburn v Portsmouth, 15:00

Portsmouth v Sunderland, 15:00

Wigan v Portsmouth, 16:00

Middlesbroughs Fixtures - Points 31

Must beat Fulham but after that it looks all over. It's all over! Ditto Barcodes, only HULL can save this lot. Just maybe 35 points will be enough. Hull v Stoke maybe the defining moment in this saga. Must win at Newcastle and West Ham or get something at home to Villa. Unlikely.

Stoke v Middlesbrough, 15:00

Bolton v Middlesbrough, 15:00

Middlesbrough v Hull, 15:00

Middlesbrough v Fulham, 15:00

Arsenal v Middlesbrough, 13:30

Middlesbrough v Man Utd, 15:00

Newcastle v Middlesbrough, 15:00

Middlesbrough v Aston Villa, 15:00

West Ham v Middlesbrough, 16:00

Blackburns Fixtures - Points 37

Easy street... Big Sam has an extra month to get his shopping list together!

Blackburn v West Ham, 15:00

Blackburn v Tottenham, 12:45

Liverpool v Blackburn, 12:45

Stoke v Blackburn, 15:00

Blackburn v Wigan, 16:00

Man City v Blackburn, 15:00

Blackburn v Portsmouth, 15:00

Chelsea v Blackburn, 15:00

Blackburn v West Brom, 16:00

Sunderland Fixtures - Points 35

The next two are CUP FINALS. Part 1 complete with poor 1-0 win over Hull. Part 2 next week at WBA could see Sunderland pushing for safety. Half a job. One win or two draws should be ok. Hull and Barcodes come good (not likely), this lot may get caught on the last day.

Man City v Sunderland, 15:00

West Ham v Sunderland, 15:00

Sunderland v Man Utd, 15:00

Sunderland v Hull, 15:00

West Brom v Sunderland, 15:00

Sunderland v Everton, 15:00

Bolton v Sunderland, 15:00

Portsmouth v Sunderland, 15:00

Sunderland v Chelsea, 16:00

But we all know htere's many a slip twixt cup and lip, or to put it in football terms there's a few twists and turns to come yet.

[Ray-Von]

Villa will have a massive say in who stays/goes by the looks of things - although they haven't won in about 12 games.

[CrazyIvan]

How many people who have used the BBC's predictor system have the scores the way they have been or the league positions the way they are now? I'm just curious, it's not meant as any kind of dig. I just wonder how close anybody has actually got.

It'd be interesting to plumb in peoples predictions for the final games (specifically for the bottom 6-8) and see who gets closest.

[brfcs5359]

How many people who have used the BBC's predictor system have the scores the way they have been or the league positions the way they are now? I'm just curious, it's not meant as any kind of dig. I just wonder how close anybody has actually got.

It'd be interesting to plumb in peoples predictions for the final games (specifically for the bottom 6-8) and see who gets closest.

I had Rovers down for 44 I think. Stoke the only result I got wrong. I think we'll get 41 now.

[Ricky]

I had our points tally spot on, although I had some of our results the wrong way round.

Here's what I predicted in terms of w/l/d

Cant remember what I predicted the scores to be

Hull D

Everton W

Fulham L

Arsenal L

West Ham W

Spurs W

Liverpool L

Stoke D

Wigan W

Man City L

Pompey W

Chelsea L

West Brom W

[Lurid Coat]

How many people who have used the BBC's predictor system have the scores the way they have been or the league positions the way they are now? I'm just curious, it's not meant as any kind of dig. I just wonder how close anybody has actually got.

It'd be interesting to plumb in peoples predictions for the final games (specifically for the bottom 6-8) and see who gets closest.

This is what I predicted a little over a month ago:

Just had another go at the BBC table predictor. Bottom nine:

12 Bolton 43

13 Stoke 43

14 Blackburn 42

15 Portsmouth 41

16 Hull 39

17 Sunderland 37

18 Newcastle 36

19 Boro 34

20 WBA 25

Had us winning against Wigan, Pompey and WBA

Drawing against Stoke and City

Losing against Tottenham, Liverpool and Chelsea

Not entirely correct, but I think we might be able to pick up 5 or 6 more points.

[leftfooter]

If Pompey lose to Arsenal and we lose to City on Saturday, with a point for each likely to be enough to secure Premier League status, expect to see 2 teams with 10 men behind the ball watching James and Robinson booting it to each other for 90 minutes at Ewood Saturday week. Oh and Rovers will miss a sitter in the 90th minute.

Too many twists and turns yet. A point should - barring freak results - see us virtually safe, but don't expect us to be mathematically safe going in to the WBA match even. Hopefully WBA still have something to play for, as the last thing we need is a relegated Baggies coming to Ewood with the pressure off and determined to enjoy their last hurrah in the top flight.

Hull will beat Stoke at home, (not scientific, but it's almost an unwritten law of football that it will happen - just like it was a foregone conclusion that S'land would lose at the Hawthorns) and the question then is where they will scrape another point from?

The key game of course is Boro v Toon. Boro on their day have some decent footballers and can on occasions raise their game; they just lack consistency. Newcastle are plodding and unimaginative. Events should conspire for Newcastle to beat Fulham but I see Boro getting something at St James Park. In fact of all the teams below us Boro are the most worrisome. They will get something (I predict a win 3-2) against a jaded Man U at the Riverside and the pressure is then on!

Totally unscientific and hope we get something at COMS, but there are greater forces at work here and that's my gut feeling. Expect a bumpy ride.

[philipl]

Certainly was unscientific.

Defeats for Boro and Newcastle against big 4 opponents put us within 4 points of mathematical safety on Saturday. Or Rovers will probably be 9 points ahead with 3 games left if we win at Eastlands.

[Guest Kamy100]

Great to see optimism on here but this is still not over, we should be ok if we pick up 2 further points, but I will not rest easy until it is mathametically impossible for us to get relegated, this season has seen so many twists and turns.

[47er]

I'd be surprised if we won at City. Happy with a draw but reconciled to a loss.

[brfcs5359]

The season will be defined by the Hull Stoke result I think. If Hull win it will be clear who's going down.

[Hughesy]

We should pick up a point on saturday, maybe even 3... we shall see!

[brfcs5359]

[tony gale's mic]

Anyone else find this picture hilarious?

[thenodrog]

Anyone else find this picture hilarious?

1. Freddie Shepherd.

2. Sam Allardyce.

But hey lets not count chickens eh?

[Hughesy]

The way I saw it prior to the Villa game was that it was our hardest home game left. Every other home game we should be capable of taking points in.

Keep the faith lads.

We're definately going down after today.

Can not see us getting even close to 40 points, I doubt we'll get 35.

Dooms day proven wrong by Sam.

There was an element of fight (as far as i could tell from computer screen) in last night's performance, which is of some comfort. I just can't see us winning enough games.

Next Dooms day soon to be proven wrong by Sam.

We should really break this down. Games we should really be targetting a win, where it will most hurt. Games we should be able to get something, and then finally games where its difficult and even a point is a great result.

Games we need to really need to target a win - Spurs (3), Stoke (0), Pompey, West Brom.

Games we can get something: Fulham (3), West Ham (1), Wigan (3), City

Games where anything is a bonus: Arsenal (0), Liverpool (0), Chelsea

Iv not been too far off with my targets - We are currently 1 point ahead of schedule.

[thenodrog]

I'd be surprised if we won at City. Happy with a draw but reconciled to a loss.

Don't want to jinx anything but I had this down some time ago as one of our easier matches in the run in. City blow warm and cold so if we shackle Ireland, set about em and as they have nothing to play for we could banish our relegation worries untill at least next August.

[brfcs5359]

Anyone else find this picture hilarious?

Reminds me of Delia at Norwich... Didn't work their either.