[Archived] Hull City V Blackburn Rovers

[bobsterbrfc]

Hopefully we beat them on Sunday and not in an unofficial fixture on Saturday. Not sure the league would award us any points for beating them in training.

you swine

[joey_big_nose]

4-4-2

We need to get at that error prone defence and Myhill. There is no pace in Hull to worry our defence and they are quote ponderous and error prone in the middle.

I don't know, I would be tempted to stay with the same formation as we used against United. Diouff in midfield but with the licence to get well forward.

It is vital we win the midfield battle. Having five in there will help. ANd Cruz convinces me more as a lone striker and should give us a goal threat. We can always bring on McCarthy and Roberts later on.

[Hughesy]

We scored 1 goal playing 4-5-1 and the only reason we scored was because Nani & Scholes were leaving it to each other and Ooijer nicked in.

4-4-2 has to be the way we play, we look much more dangerous.

Or maybe 4-5-1 which reverts to 4-3-3 when attacking with Diouf & Pedersen supporting Roque?

[3rdpillar]

BOyz going over for Saturday night in Hull . Any advise on where to go for a good beer, then a good nightspot?

[OJRovers]

We scored 1 goal playing 4-5-1 and the only reason we scored was because Nani & Scholes were leaving it to each other and Ooijer nicked in.

4-4-2 has to be the way we play, we look much more dangerous.

Or maybe 4-5-1 which reverts to 4-3-3 when attacking with Diouf & Pedersen supporting Roque?

We scored one goal playing 4-5-1 against the BEST DEFENCE IN EUROPE - if anything that is an argument to stick with it and see if Hull can cope.

[philipl]

My take is that after watching Hull last night, their defence makes so many mistakes that we need two forwards to take advantage. Otherwise with just one forward up there could be lose balls in their box and nobody to pick up the pieces.

The Hull midfield is pedestrian and poses no real threat so going 4 v 4 playing narrow should be sufficient.

Taking chances is what Sunday will be about- there certainly will be chances whether we go 4-5-1 or 4-4-2.

[brightonrover]

My take is that after watching Hull last night, their defence makes so many mistakes that we need two forwards to take advantage. Otherwise with just one forward up there could be lose balls in their box and nobody to pick up the pieces.

The Hull midfield is pedestrian and poses no real threat so going 4 v 4 playing narrow should be sufficient.

Taking chances is what Sunday will be about- there certainly will be chances whether we go 4-5-1 or 4-4-2.

Yes, I think a draw isn't any good to us this time so we've got to take a few chances in going for the win.

Hull must be at rock bottom confidence wise so we need to get at them from the start.

[John]

Andy Dawson believes it is 'massively important' for Hull City to get a positive result against Blackburn Rovers.

[they_think_its_all_rover]

Andy Dawson believes it is 'massively important' for Hull City to get a positive result against Blackburn Rovers.

He won't be playing Thursday night in the cup then, as he's 1 booking away from suspension.

[Shabani]

allardyce 'laughing' on the touchline

says it all really

[bazza]

Hull City will win this match. If Rovers cannot beat Coventry C, then Hull will give us a pasting, sending us spiralling down to relegation.

Why? Because there is no heart; no fight; and no soul in this squad anymore.

When I watch Man Utd play, they do the simple things properly and every player is always available for his colleague to pass to.

Why cannot Rovers do this? They don't have to have the same skill on the ball as the Utd players but doing the simple things right is paramount.

Is it that the players cannot think for themselves or is it poor management and coaching?

[Anti-Dingle-Brigade]

Hull City will win this match. If Rovers cannot beat Coventry C, then Hull will give us a pasting, sending us spiralling down to relegation.

I'd agree if:

Treacy

Brown

Simpson

Mokoena

Tugay

Olsson

Kish

Were in the starting line up. But they aren't. Guess who is? The players who damn near beat United. That team you just admired and cooed over.

[sambo]

Must win.

Drawing is poor, another poor draw.

Losing is unthinkable.

[bazza]

I'd agree if:

Treacy

Brown

Simpson

Mokoena

Tugay

Olsson

Kish

Were in the starting line up. But they aren't. Guess who is? The players who damn near beat United. That team you just admired and cooed over.

They won't play out of their skins against Hull as they did against Manure. That is what makes me angry. They will play the same way as the "reserves" played against Coventry.

[DE.]

We've beaten Stoke and Newcastle 3-0, we can beat Hull. It's up to the players to show the desire to go there and do the job... an encouraging performance against Man Utd (quite possibly the best team in the world) is not negated by a reserve team loss to Coventry.

[they_think_its_all_rover]

Ok, so here is my guide for the matchday and for those going out on Saturday night;

First of all, here are a few things to do for anyone getting to Hull early during the day on Saturday with the rest of the day to spare;

Things to do:

The Deep – The world’s only submarium. Pretty much a giant underwater sea-life museum, full of thousands of different types of fish and sharks, which you can watch being fed.

Dinostar – Yorkshire’s only dinosaur museum, situated between The Deep and The Marina.

Museum’s Quarter – Situated down High Street in Hull’s old town, alongside the river Hull. Museum’s Quarter is a group of free-entry museums, which are;

Wilberforce House – The former home of William Wilberforce, the man who abolished slavery. His house is now a walk-through museum of the history of slavery.

Another museum is the;

Hull & East Riding museum – A museum about the history of Kingston-Upon-Hull and The East Riding of Yorkshire – which includes things from roman times, a Viking oak boat, old coins, history of how Hull started the civil war e.t.c,e.t.c. it’s quite decent for a look around. Another museum is the;

Streetlife Museum – pretty much what is says on the tin. It’s a museum set-out as streets throughout history which you can walk around and view old cars, vans, trams, buses, bicycles, sweet shops, world war shops with ration booklets e.t.c.

And the final museum of Museums Quarter is the;

Arctic Cosair fishing trawler, docked up out the back of the streetlife museum which you can board and walk around and see how trawlermen lived and worked aboard the ship.

The Maritime Museum – situated in the old Queen’s Dock naval offices in Queen Victoria Sq in the city centre (the big building with 3 big domes on the roof, next to Queen’s Gardens (formerly Queen’s Dock).

Queens Gardens – Worth a stroll for any couples coming through, this one. It was formerly the Queen’s Dock, the largest and busiest dock in the U.K. – until it was filled in and turned into gardens for the visit of Queen Victoria. There is also a plaque in Queens Gardens commemorating the set-off point of fictional character Robinson Crusoe.

Queens Gardens may be worth a stroll for those who are fans of David Bowie. The Spiders From Mars were all from Hull, which included one of the greatest guitarists of all-time; Mick Ronson. In Queens Gardens you will find the Mick Ronson memorial stage.

(Also another Hull-Blackburn link – Archbishop Desmond Tutu, I remember him doing someting with Rovers, and is also a Freeman of Kingston-Upon-Hull and was presented with this award in Queens Gardens).

Feren’s Art Gallery – situated just across from the Maritime Museum/City Hall.

Another one for the couples or for anyone who just likes to take in picturesque views, I suggest you go for a walk around the Marina, Humber Quays and Victoria Pier.

The Marina - can be enjoyed by all as there are some swish boats to look at including the old Spurn Lightship and the Green Bricks pub is good to sit out N’ have a pint in. Also walking around the whole of the Marina takes in the experience of crossing the lock gates, which is always fun (unless they’ve put the main bridge down). There are also old cannons e.t.c. to look at, facing out onto views of the river Humber. I suggest if you’re not one for wanting to sit in and eat anywhere, that you grab a sandwich or baked goods from a bakery and stroll down to the far tip of the marina and sit and eat it on one of the benches.

At Humber Quays (joint on to the Marina), you’ll find the world’s newest (and already the UK’s most successful) World Trade Centre. Although only recently built, these 2 buildings aren’t like any other “modern” architecture – as they’re not bland identikit – plastic lego builds – So anyone interested in architecture may well find these worth a look at. There are also Fountains and Public Arts down there.

Victoria Pier is a really nice place to go and sit and have a drink, just like the tip of the Marina. At Victoria Pier you can see the old “Oss Wash” where ‘back in the day’ people took their horses to be washed off in the river. This is also the point in which the old Humber ferries crosses before the Humber Bridge was built; the old station still stands.

Holy Trinity Church – Holy Trinity Church is the biggest church in England and is situated in Trinity Sq.

Also in Trinity Sq is the Old Grammar School which is now a working museum – you can go in and see how kids were taught in the olden days – William Wilberforce and Andrew Marvell were taught here.

The rest of the Old Town is well worth a look around as there are some interesting old buildings and Hull’s old town has recently been voted the 5th best preserved area in the U.K.

Some of the buildings include; Ye Olde White Harte, which has been around since 1550. You can sit and have a pint in the olde ‘Plotting chamber’ where Sir John Hotham and company decided to plot against allowing the King into the King’s Town (Kingston) – which in the end started the English Civil War. Another pub is Ye Olde Black Boy, which has been around since 1330!

Also in the Old Town, if you go to the Tourist Information (in Queen Victoria Sq) you can pick up an Ale Map and do the ‘Real Ale Trail’ mainly around the Old Town.

Hull New Theatre & Hull Truck Theatre – Take in a performance of the theatrical type.

The Land of Green Ginger – the street which the book (and later the film) was named after – on this street you’ll find The George pub which contains ‘the smallest window in England’.

Shopping – For those who’re taking their missus’ with them/or simply fancy a bit of shopping themselves – there are a varied range of shops throughout Hull city centre, most of the High Street names you’ll find in St.Stephens or Princes Quay shopping centres.

If you’re after independent boutiques, go down Saville Street, down the left-hand side of Cafe Nero; You’ll find your usual stuff, plus a few retro/vintage clothing boutiques where you can buy clothes from the 50s/60s/70s/80s/90s – including all the old retro Adidas stocks e.t.c. Check out Rockerfella, Groovy and at the end of the street across the road is Chinese Laundry (no, it’s not a Chinese laundry, it is a vintage boutique) For other independent retailers, have a look in Hepworth’s Arcade at the end of Whitefriargate.

If you have kids and want to go off on your own, there is Monkey Business in St.Stephen’s – a giant indoor, soft play area.

Hull Ghost Walk – book a ghost walk at the Tourist Information, were you’ll be taken on a tour of the most haunted buildings in Hull and told stories of the ghost which inhabit the place you are in.

River Humber – you can go paragliding or go on speedboat trips.

Cinema – Vue Cinema in Princes Quay is the first all-digital cinema in Europe and in all honesty – the quality is amazing, you can really tell the difference.

There is also Reel Cinema in St.Stephen’s.

(a few) Places to Eat;

Fastfood – McD’s, Fries R’Us ( Jameson Street), Yankee Land (opposite Prospect Centre), Liberty Diner (Princes Quay).

Commercial – Pizza Hut (Jameson Street), Nando’s (St.Stephen’s).

Other -

Ayutthaya Thai Restaurant (Just off Jameson Street)

Hitchcocks Vegetarian Restaurant (High Street -Old Town)

ASK – (Castle Street – In front of Princes Quay)

Gainsborough Indian – (Anlaby Rd)

The Boars Nest – Edwardian restaurant – (Princes Avenue)

Cerutti’s – (posh) – (Nelson Street – near Victoria Pier)

Pier Luigi’s (Italian) – Princes Avenue

The Omelette (Continental) - (Albion Street – near Hull New Theatre)

Fudge (bit of allsorts) – Princes Avenue

Cook’s Endeavour – Scale Lane

Mex Cantina – (Mexican) – Lowgate

Luciano’s - (Italian & English) – Carr Lane

Mr Chu’s – (Chinese) – St.Andrew’s Quay (Near Park N’ Ride) – Largest Chinese in the U.K. – John Prescott is a big fan.

La Perla – (Italian) – Newland Avenue

Asian Kitchen – (Indian) – Princes Avenue

Chinese Delicacy – (Chinese) – Anlaby Rd

Chance Cafe – (Organic/Veggie cafe) – Chanterlands Avenue

Ciao Bistro – (Italian/Continental) – Chanterlands Avenue

Lantern – (European) – Whitefriargate

Kurdistan Restaurant – (Turkish) – Spring Bank

Desaru – (Oriental) – Story Street

Giant Panda – (Chinese) – Princes Avenue

Teng Fei – (Chinese) – Beverley Rd

Thai House – (Thai) – Princes Avenue

The New Macau – (Chinese) – Newland Avenue

Aroma – (Chinese) – Beverley Rd

Bengal Pride – (Indian) – Chanterlands Avenue

Marrakech – (other) – Princes Avenue

Da Gianni’s – (Italian) – Princes Avenue

May Sum – (Chinese all-you-can-eat - £5) – opposite Chinese Laundry

Prezzo – (Italian) – St.Stephen’s.

Bob Carver’s (Chippy) – Nr. Holy Trinity Church

Golden Fry (Chippy) – Next to Cafe Nero

(a few)Cafe’s ;

Leonardo’s (Near Princes Quay)

Cuckoo’s (next to Leonardo’s)

Pasaz (Ferensway – Nr. Train Station)

Vanilla (Ferensway – opposite St.Stephen’s)

Stanley’s Brasserie – (Ferensway – opposite train station – next to War Memorial)

Also, plenty of 2 for 1 pubs scattered around the city centre.

Matchday Drinking;

Most pubs in the city centre will be fine with you in and they’re only a 15/20 min walk from the KC.

The Brickmaker’s Arms on Walton Street will allow you in as long as you’re not rowdy. It is a home supporters pub that allows in away supporters. I think other pubs will allow you in as well on condition you are quiet and just in for a drink. Places like ‘Pave’, ‘Garbutts’ and others down Princes Avenue are all good for on a matchday.

Green Bricks and Baltic Wharf are a welcoming and friendly atmosphere for footie fans, down by the marina.

DO NOT – go in The Silver Cod, The Eagle or The Old Zoological.

Pre-match grub;

Places down Princes Avenue do food like snacks and pub grub. There are also places for food in the city centre or there is Lonsboro Rd Chippy near the KC, but the queue soon builds up. Oh and there are a few grubby takeaways on Anlaby Rd next to the KC, if thats your thing.

After-game pint;

Your best bet is Princes Avenue.

GOING – OUT (Saturday Night)

Depending on what type of person you are, what music you’re into and how old you are will determine where your night out will be best spent.

Personally, I avoid the City Centre (New Town area) places such as; Cheeky Monkeys, Diva, Sgt.Pepper’s, Shine Bar (though decent for a drink during the day), Bedroom (yes, it does have beds to sit/lay on inside). If you are looking for a pizz-up and a fight at the end of the night – this is your area.

Personally, I go with...

Princes Avenue is always a good place to start with a few drinks, then get a taxi (ask at the bar for a number) and ask to be taken to ‘Lowgate’ – this is Hull’s Old Town. Start off at the King Billy or Corn Exchange and work your way down. Here you will find Jazz Cafe, Mint, Barracuda, Revolution & limelight Bar along with many down-to-earth proper British pubs.

Personally, I’d suggest Mint & Barracuda, along with going down the side of Jazz Cafe down a street to ‘Manny Arms’ aka The Manchester Arms – go in and have a pint and also ask for a ‘sh1t on the grass’ it’s only £1! Tastes well nice and your night has begun! A bit further down from Manny Arms is Durty Nellys Irish pub usually have a ‘pick up n’ play night’ on a Saturday, where-by if you play a song live on stage you get a free pint for every song you play.

‘Courts Bar’ down the Land of Green Ginger is well worth a pint or two in. Before following the crowd onto George Street. (Get to the bottom of Lowgate, cross the crossroads, walk past the Guildhall, Queens Gardens and Hull College and then arrive on George Street – Turn Left and go to the top end) Starting at the top end there is a lively pub on the corner – bit further down there is ‘Goose’ and ‘Biarritz’(Good for those into Rn’B & Hip-Hop (and girls wearing next-to-nowt, lol) There is also a strip club-turned bar with strippers/ dancers (forgot it’s name), there is also ‘Attic’ which is a bit hit N’ miss but has started to include dancers/strippers and has become more popular I’ve heard. Sharkeys is your last port of call on George street and is good for a strong cocktail before heading across the road to the club; Pozition.

I myself will be out on Saturday night and at Pozition for a friends 21st, we all have to wear masquerade masks (I may not bother, lol) – I’m turning up later and they’re all getting a limo, so if you see a lad running after a bunch of lasses getting out of a limo, thats me, haha.

If you’re after a staright forward strip club; on your way from Lowgate to George Street, once past Queens Gardens, turn down the side of the Police Station and there is Purple Door strip club.

Pozition gets pretty busy on a Saturday night - Saturdays is “Chunky Chocolate” – Room 1: Pozition Anthems, Rn’B and cheese, Room 2: Smooth Rn’B and Soul, Room 3: Funky House & Club classics, Room 4: Cafe Bar.

Another decent stretch of bars in the old town is along the street at the end of Whitefriargate, along to Trinity Sq – You’ll see (I think it’s called) ‘Lyrics’ on one corner and ‘The William Wilberforce’ pub on the other corner of the street.

Another club in the city centre is Sugar Mill – down the side of Princes Quay shopping centre.

Saturdays at Sugar Mill is – ‘Sophisticated Party Night’ – Floor 1: party, pop, chart & indie, Floor 2: Funky House, Retro Dance & Classics, Floor 3: Rn’B, Hip-Hop & Soul. Sugar Mill has a dress code of Smart/casual – NO trainers or Sportswear.

Before you go into Sugar Mill, there is a decent bar down the side of it that I suggest you got for 1 in. It’s known as Schnapps Bar/Hooters – but keeps changing it’s name.

Another club in Hull is Welly. At Welly on a Saturday night is Club NME from 10:30 til Midnight with Club NME Dj – Jodof & the band ‘It Hugs Back’ playing live + support – Club NME then becomes ‘Rebel Disco’ at midnight – a mad mixture of indie tunes, dance music, drum N’bass, hip-hop e.t.c.

In the other half of Welly is ‘Deja Vu’ club night – with Andy Baxter of Pacha Djing along with resident Dj’s.

You will need to get a taxi to Welly from the Old Town, as it is a fair walk.

Another place is The Adelphi – I’ll be there on the Friday night watching a band called ‘Fight Like Apes’. The Adelphi is the only independently run-original punk venue still standing from the 1970s. The Adelphi is England’s answer to C.B.G.B’s of New York – The Adelphi is a converted house with ducting being held to the roof by tape – it’s an amazing experience and something to truely witness – very surreal. On the Saturday night is ‘Payback’ – Big Sam’s Funky Nation playing live (Does Allardyce have a secret? Lol!) – straight from New Orleans. DJ support from ‘Payback’ playing Funk, Soul & Jazz. You will need to get a taxi here too.

Another club is ChiChi just over North Bridge, across the River Hull (Not far from Pozition). It’s a boutique club, when asking for ChiChi, it’s quite new, so people will probably know it better as ‘Zebra’ – Or ask for Napolean’s casino, and cross the bridge when you get there to get to ChiChi.

ChiChi on a Saturday is Yo-Yo indie party night with Dj Priya. It is quite small, but it’s more of a cosy feel to it. There is also a big Irish pub across the road.

Another club is Fuel. Fuel is a “gay friendly” club, but attended by plenty of non-gays (a bit like half the clubs in Manchester, lol) Open 11-2.

Another club is Spiders. Spiders is an alternative club night with music in the genre’s of; Rock, Metal, Punk, Emo, Hardcore & Ska and pretty much anything considered alternative. It is an independently run club and has been going since 1979. It is painted black inside with silver spider silhouettes on the walls and has metal cages for you to sit in and drink from. The only lights inside are every now and again a red light. You can request songs from the Dj by writing them on a big notepad they leave out and the drinks are dirt cheap. Castlemaine & Boddingtons - £1.60 a pint, Vodka, Whiskey, White Rum or Gin is 80p. Malibu, Tia Maria, Pernod, Blue Bols or Tequila is £1. Jim Beam or Southern Comfort is £1.10. Bottle of Carlsberg - £1, Newcastle Brown bottles - £2.50. Always a laugh and Spiders has the best tasting Chinese in the world, across the road. Spiders also has an upstairs that plays 60s,70s,80s, Funk, Soul, Motown & mod classics.

It’ll probably be easiest to get a taxi to Spiders.

Matchday Parking;

There is a car-park next to the KC on Walton street, but it is hell trying to get out, so don’t use this as an option unless you’re lazy.

Hull Royal Infirmary has a car-park which will cost about £5 for parking for throughout the match and isn’t too difficult to get out of in the traffic and is linked quite well to get to the A63, leading onto the M62.

There are plenty of car-parks in the city centre – plenty of multi-storey carparks (you can’t miss em!).

Also down Princes Avenue – there is a road which will be on your left called Marlborough Rd which has a small car-park down it.

Places to stay;

There are plenty of hotels and B&B’s in Hull. Cheapest is probably Alexandra pub just as you come into Hull centre over the fly-over near Smith & Nephew - £15 B&B.

Plenty of hotels;

Kingston Theatre Hotel – next to Hull New Theatre

Portland Hotel – 4* not far from train station and down the side of the City Hall

Quality Hotel Royal – Next to train station – stayed in by Queen Victoria.

Pearson Park Hotel – Nr. Princes Avenue – just cut through Pearson park

Ibis Hull – Just down the road from train station

Owner Hotel – 4* boutique hotel – next to Hull city centre library

Holiday Inn – Hull Marina

Campanile – opposite Hull Daily Mail

Express Holiday Inn – St.Stephen’s.

Getting the Train – The best route to get to the KC from the train station is – Go out the front of Hull Paragon Station, turn left and cross the road (Careful, lots of speeding buses as it’s an interchange), go into St.Stephen’s shopping centre and walk all the way through – Go out the back doors and walk down the slope to Park Street – cross the road and go straight down the crossroads down Londsboro Rd (it’s a bit of a rough looking street, but it’s fine – by this point you will be able to see the KC) where you can pick up some fish n’ chips to eat – get to the end of the road, cross the road and cross the railway bridge in front of you and follow the path along to the KC.

Hope some of this helps!

[Hughesy]

Bazza give it a rest, we played top in our last league match against the best team in the world. Our 2nd string which we all know is crap, lost 1-0 to Coventry.

Its not really comparable is it!!

Lets see how we do on Sunday first eh! Until then give it a rest.

[rovgers]

I agree, people have to understand that our 2nd string played against coventry.

These are squad players that are suppose to come in a couple at a time to cover for injuries and suspensions and not all of them to play at once.

I bet that phil brown will be making sweeping changes for their game against Sheff Utd, I hope they don't and have to play extra time and get some injuries

[Balwer]

They think it's all rover - massive props to you for that post. You sure you don't work in the Hull tourism department or something?

[Paul]

1864 thanks for conjuring up memories of real football and real footballers, those times when you could turn up and watch a team attempting to win. I'd forgotten.

We'll lose on Sunday. One half will be dominated by Rovers without scoring, in the other half we'll concede and lose. Don't know which way round it will be but that's what will happen. If you want to know why ask the players. Simply though it's because the squad is full of useless, overpaid, talentless dross who will never have to work again in their lives and will walk away from the club in the summer - except of course for the really bad ones who we'll have to keep as no one will want them!

[Hughesy]

We'll lose on Sunday. One half will be dominated by Rovers without scoring, in the other half we'll concede and lose. Don't know which way round it will be but that's what will happen.

it's because the squad is full of useless, overpaid, talentless dross

Nothing like being positive. Its about time our fans stopped crying like babies and got behind the team they apparently support. Nothing like standing up and being counted! Why expect our players to do it, if us fans cant do it! Get behind your team, get to Hull on Sunday and try your best to SUPPORT the lads and hopefully help be the 12th man that might help get us the positive result we need.

The same dross that finished 7th last season! Im sorry but its not the players, its the effect of appointing Paul Ince.

[roversmum]

Most of those who went to the Coventry match last night will be there, and facing long trips to Fulham and Arsenal within a few days the following week. It would be nice if the long journey home was lifted by some kind of performance by the lads. And yes, Hughesey, I DO expect the players to put the effort in, for 90+ minutes, it's their job, whereas we, in many cases, have to struggle financially to support them. We do it because we love Rovers and they are OUR players. Instead of taking the supporters and indeed the club for granted, maybe the players should think on that for a bit.

[Parsonblue]

Nothing like being positive. Its about time our fans stopped crying like babies and got behind the team they apparently support. Nothing like standing up and being counted! Why expect our players to do it, if us fans cant do it! Get behind your team, get to Hull on Sunday and try your best to SUPPORT the lads and hopefully help be the 12th man that might help get us the positive result we need.

The same dross that finished 7th last season! Im sorry but its not the players, its the effect of appointing Paul Ince.

There were over 900 of us at Coventry last night supporting the lads. But it made no difference to the performance of Benni, Jason, Roque and the rest. Support is a two way thing. The players have to at least look interested - which in the second half at Coventry last night they just didn't.

[wellesbourne]

There were over 900 of us at Coventry last night supporting the lads. But it made no difference to the performance of Benni, Jason, Roque and the rest. Support is a two way thing. The players have to at least look interested - which in the second half at Coventry last night they just didn't.

Spot on Parson. Was chatting about this after last nights game on the way back to the car. Last few games - have never known Rovers fans so reigned to defeat before the game has even strated.

Used to get v frustrated with supporters who don't get behind the team but when you travel week in and week out to watch dross people to strat to lose some of their passion to !

Key difference last night was not skill levels - it was about appetite, desire, doggedness, fight and character - all absolute essentials to survive a releagtion fight. Even without skill and the aforementioned qualitites you can get out of a hole but sadly in recent performances both of these have been lacking.

Good job there are six or seven equally bad sides in the dog fight at the moment.

For the sake of the team and the fans - a confidence boosting victory is required Saturday. Everything is crossed in the hope of a result.

[LeChuck]

The players have to at least look interested - which in the second half at Coventry last night they just didn't.

How strange. I could understand that if it was the same eleven that played against Man Utd and is likely to start against Hull.

However, I thought at least one benefit of playing a team of players on the fringes would be that they'd be eager to prove themselves and force themselves in permanently. If they really didn't care then they're a pathetic bunch and can't have any arguments about being on the bench 90% of the time.