[Archived] Morten Gamst Pedersen

[Hughesy]

So, Diouf and Pedersen, probably our two worst "major" players, neither of whom would be likely to feature in a fully fit first-choice XI, and now the two highest paid players at the club.

Wouldnt feature in our current best 11??

Why go all crazy without facts and figures? Lifes too short!

Sun seems to think he was offered 25k elsewhere

Meanwhile Nicko suggests £50k MAX if including ALL bonus payments

[bluebruce]

Wouldnt feature in our current best 11??

Why go all crazy without facts and figures? Lifes too short!

Sun seems to think he was offered 25k elsewhere

Meanwhile Nicko suggests £50k MAX if including ALL bonus payments

Our best 11's midfield, in my humble opinion (and this is nothing to do with his supposed wage etc as you seem to be inferring from your why go all crazy comment?)- Olsson left wing, Dunn attacking mid, N'zonzi in the central role, Grella behind him...there is one potential hole for either Diouf or Pedersen, right wing. But no space for both. Personally I'd prefer to see Hoilett blooded more regularly there, and Emerton used if he can't handle it, or better yet, a new right mid, with various players released/sold to pay for it, but I recognise this is just my opinion. Whereas the rest of the midfield -appears- to be Sam's choice too these days. I know it is a bit of a big "if", that we remain injury-free in Dunn and Grella's cases, and that defensive injuries can see Olsson put at left back with Givet in the centre, but I'm talking about an ideal, fit XI.

Interesting articles (judging by the titles you've given- haven't read them yet but will after submitting this and correct myself if necessary). If he was offered less elsewhere, sure, it means the people that said nobody wanted him other than us are wrong, but it also means the gist of their points stands. Ie, we overpaid hugely, and it also rubbishes the claims by himself and others that he did it out of loyalty. Nicko's claim about it including bonuses...surely it is extremely difficult to figure out a "max" average earning after bonuses. Appearances, sure, but goals and assists? Hmmm. By max does it mean if he hits 20 goals next season or something? Will have a read in a moment...

Edit- K, read it now, and perhaps you were also getting at Hauge's comments that Peds received better offers elsewhere. However, Hauge is widely known as a low-down liar. My only hope is that he was also lying about the wage.

[USABlue]

Underwhelmed by this, I was sort of hoping he would move along. Now we have a player who doesn't want to be here but can't get what he wants elsewhere. Perhaps if we put a clause in his contract that he loses money everytime he hits the wall on free kicks or fails to beat the first man on corners he'd do better. I've just gone right off this bloke over the past couple of seasons.

[Montfort]

Delighted that Pederson is staying. This is effectively a major signing for us. If he had gone, we would have been in difficulty, needing a replacement as well as the creative midfield player and striker. I would remind all the naysayers that he is our third top goal scorer ( I think ) in a side where goals are like hen's teeth.

[Majiball]

Our best 11's midfield, in my humble opinion (and this is nothing to do with his supposed wage etc as you seem to be inferring from your why go all crazy comment?)- Olsson left wing, Dunn attacking mid, N'zonzi in the central role, Grella behind him...there is one potential hole for either Diouf or Pedersen, right wing. But no space for both. Personally I'd prefer to see Hoilett blooded more regularly there, and Emerton used if he can't handle it, or better yet, a new right mid, with various players released/sold to pay for it, but I recognise this is just my opinion. Whereas the rest of the midfield -appears- to be Sam's choice too these days. I know it is a bit of a big "if", that we remain injury-free in Dunn and Grella's cases, and that defensive injuries can see Olsson put at left back with Givet in the centre, but I'm talking about an ideal, fit XI.

Personally With Grella and N'zonzi in the team I feel we are far to static. Grella won't work box to box, neither will N;zonzi, Dunn can't do it all on his own as even with the striker they will mainly be 2 V 3 up top. We need a player who can work up and down for the whole match and Gamst can do that role. I'm beginning to wonder about Emerton and how his injury has affected him as he just doesn't quiet seem the same player. Hopefully a pre-season will sort that out. The only other player we have who can do the box to box role is Keith and well even his team-mates seem to want to by-pass him.

Don't forget that Gamst plays in the center and also means we have cover for left wing, so I could claim that had he left we would in reality need two players to replace him. I cannot believe that he's being paid a basic much more than 30-35 and bonuses based on victories goals and assists, because he's not worth 50K a week unless he contributes at the previously mentioned levels. Not even JW can tink he is a s good as Bentley and RSC, so I can only assume Hauge is embellishing a bit.

Its done now and at least we can now move forward and start signing the new players we need, I just hope we can now shift out the players that we really need to as as some have said he's far from being our worst player.

EDIT: I also have to say that Gordon needs to take some of the blame for upping the top rate of tax to 50% which surely has played a part in all of this.

[nick1979]

I think Alladyce had a problem to address with the injury record of Dunn and Grella. In fairness to Dunn he played alot more games this season, but the value for money we get from Grella is very poor. One thing that you can say for Pedersen is that he stays clear of injury. We can't afford to be paying big wages on players who can't stay fit.

[mhead]

The Internet Warriors on here are getting more ridiculous.

I have just looked at the Premiership table again....all 9 Clubs above us have wealthy financial backers and are from big Cities.

We are the top Town team in the BEST and wealthiest League in the World. Our attendances in our medium town equal all the Leagues in the

World except the top half in England and Germany.

Does it not strike you WE must be doing a hell of a lot of things right??

Leave it be...thanks Mort....hope you get to 10 years and a Testimonial.

Thanks for the GREATEST goal against the Dingles.

You will always be remembered....and roll on the World Cup to distract the 'complainers'.

[Hughesy]

People need to think about this abit more.

Nicko says he's earning 50k a week MAX, including all bonuses.

Those bonuses will be linked into higher placed finishes, goals, assists, wins & also his signing on fee.

Now if he doesnt perform that well, he wont earn much more than he currently does - IF he does earn 50k a week, then we should have 1 form player on our hands!!

Like iv said before, we have far more important issues that needed fixing before left wing/ left centre mid. We cant do it all at once!

[Veevs]

While I think 50k (2.6m pa) is a bit steep.. Take someone of Gamsts standard, they are not cheap so I am not sure having to spend 3m, plus a signing on fee and 30k a week (1.56m pa) wages on a new and most likely untried (both in Sams system and premier league) player would of been worth it.

Personally I believe that spending the money elsewhere is a much better option given our current situation.

[unluckymorton]

Why is it that MGP penning a new deal is such big news? He played for us for a majority of last season and will continue to do so next season. We are not in the position to replace him so re-signing him is in the best interest of the club, a good season next season could see somebody come in for him and we could demand a decent fee for a player very few rate.

All this talk of £50k/£55k is based on an educated guess by a journalist, but if MGP sets up half a dozen match winners and gets on the score sheet a couple of times that money would be generated by finishing higher in the league partly due to his input. I find it hard to believe that MGP will be on a weekly salary of £50k, if we offered him £50k he would surely have signed as soon as the contract was offered to him.

At a stretch £50k could be a true figure providing we reached the final of the League Cup, FA Cup, qualified for the Europa League and he scores a dozen or so goals. Failing that I reckon he'll be on around £25k/£30k, but it's none of my business what he's on as the days are gone of 'we pay your wages' especially with the price structure of our season tickets., I just hope his form improves and he can win over his many doubters.

[Amo]

We'll see what you're saying when we can't sign any decent players 'cause we're over budgeted again.

[gumboots]

We'll see what you're saying when we can't sign any decent players 'cause we're over budgeted again.

I personally will still be saying the management knew the budgets we had to work with so they must think it's worth paying Pedersen whatever they are paying and will make do and mend elsewhere. You see I don't think it's up to me what my club spends the money on if I trust the manager and the chairman. I pay my pittance of £209 plus the small amount of my sky subscription that goes to our club and I let them get on with their jobs whilst i try to do my bit and support them.

[beerwins]

I have to say I am shocked at how much Pederson is on but I am quite happy that we still have him, he is still a good age, good workrate, good set piece ability, good at tracking back and on his day can be a very good player.

I agree that he has way too many dips in form which is probably due to him being a bit of a confidence player but we all know he has the ability and in my opinion its up to Sam to keep him playing at the top of his ability.

He is showing recently that he has the ability to be quite versatile regarding posistions and I believe that he would have been a great loss had he gone but in order to justify his new contract and win the fans over again he must be on the top of his game for which I wish him the best of luck.

[unluckymorton]

We'll see what you're saying when we can't sign any decent players 'cause we're over budgeted again.

MGP's offer was on the table before the end of the season, the budget is the same now as it was then.

Signing players will always be a struggle for us, it's the unfortunate position we find ourselves in. Sam's done a fantastic job with the signings he's made up to now so I have every faith that he will get his man.

As for over budgeting, I'm not aware of the board ever over budgeting. We budget to our means which is all we can ask of the club.

Let's hope MGP proves his worth and we can do our bit by supporting the lad while he's wearing our famous shirt. MGP stated "Blackburn always was my first choice. We have a united team, great management and brilliant supporters"

Personally I think that is something we should all be proud of.

[Kai]

I'm pleased that MGP is staying with us.

To be honest, I'm not surprised that his wages have gone up - and to be fair to him, he's probably not actually picking that much of a rise thanks to the new 50% tax rule that was recently brought in. He's probably stayed on about the same take home wage as before.

In my mind there's plenty of postitives about him staying too [over getting someone new in] - firstly, we know that he's settled and happy here and won't need any extra time to 'integrate' into the team. Getting a new signing, no matter who it is always brings in the element of the unknown and with MGP staying, all unknown risks are gone. MGP as stated before, works hard and is almost always available. He takes our set pieces and does them fairly well in my opinion. He gets a most of our assists and agree with me or not he does have the capacity in him to do something spectacular once in a while.

I just think that he's a soft target because we know what he's capable of and some expect him to do something special in every game. If he did, he wouldn't be here. Some people will just never change in directing their anger towards him. I remember one game I went to and some old boy was just giving him abuse for the whole game! Even when MGP and Diouf had switched wings, MGP was still getting abuse for not being on the left wing - the old boy was completely oblivious to the fact that they had switched! I'm glad that in his statement he acknowledges the 'brilliant fans' which shows that he can just ignore the idiots and appreciates the proper fans who get behind him and the team.

[Hughesy]

We'll see what you're saying when we can't sign any decent players 'cause we're over budgeted again.

Over budgetted?? when have we ever done that, other than when Ince nearly got us relegated!?

[Amo]

MGP's offer was on the table before the end of the season, the budget is the same now as it was then.

Signing players will always be a struggle for us, it's the unfortunate position we find ourselves in. Sam's done a fantastic job with the signings he's made up to now so I have every faith that he will get his man.

As for over budgeting, I'm not aware of the board ever over budgeting. We budget to our means which is all we can ask of the club.

Which means that even if we did identify a new midfielder, we'd have to lump it because we've got players like Pedersen, Diouf and Grella devouring the wage bill. Same old story with Rovers. And like someone else rightly pointed out, this sets a shocking precedent for the players who ARE actually half-decent.

Let's hope MGP proves his worth and we can do our bit by supporting the lad while he's wearing our famous shirt. MGP stated "Blackburn always was my first choice. We have a united team, great management and brilliant supporters"

Personally I think that is something we should all be proud of.

If you believe that drivel, then you'll believe anything. If we were his first choice, why did it take him so long?

[gumboots]

Which means that even if we did identify a new midfielder, we'd have to lump it because we've got players like Pedersen, Diouf and Grella devouring the wage bill.

These 2 I'd agree on because not only do I not think they are very good but they don't put in effort or in Grella's case stay fit for more than the odd game. diouf did start relatively well but I can't remember the last good full game I saw from him. Pedersen is a different story in my and many other fans' eyes.

[Amo]

These 2 I'd agree on because not only do I not think they are very good but they don't put in effort or in Grella's case stay fit for more than the odd game. diouf did start relatively well but I can't remember the last good full game I saw from him. Pedersen is a different story in my and many other fans' eyes.

I don't see much difference between Diouf & Pedersen. Both are too slow, waste possession, and have shoddy set-pieces. They have their occasional uses, but are mostly a waste of time and money. Like I said, if Pedersen has such pedigree, someone else would have snapped him up. They didn't.

People were excited about Olsson becoming our left winger and bringing in a new (long-awaited) midfielder, but with Pedersen resigning on his bumper deal, that won't be happening. Rewarding 28 year-old Pedersen with a four-year payrise is NOT the way forward for our club.

[waggy]

its funny how lard@rses rent boys think this is good for the club,next season will be under way ,we will be playing hoof ball and mgp will be anonomous in most games,wasting free kicks,and hitting the first man from corners.it will be a re-run of this season,we might do the double over blackpool and find 3 worse teams in the division than us.SUPER Sam Allardyce is god

[bellamy11]

If we hadn't over-budgeted in the past surely we wouldn't be in debt?

Doubt the rumours are true but if they are then 50k a week is criminal. We surely cannot say that it is impossible to find a run-of-the-mill Premier League player for less. If he's on something like 25k it's much more understandable.

I'm not sure if Joe Ledley was ever a consideration but if he cost £2m in a tribunal and got paid 25-30k a week we'd be no worse off with a younger, talented player with potential re-sale value. It would also be consistent with Sam's strategy for building a younger squad who could make us money down the line. Pedersen's days of commanding a reasonable fee are over.

Clearly, Sam has decided that it is in our best interest to keep Pedersen so he has to be backed. His judgment has been pretty good so far. It's surprising to me but he has to be backed. Very interesting to see how much it has divided opinion though.

[unluckymorton]

its funny how lard@rses rent boys think this is good for the club,next season will be under way ,we will be playing hoof ball and mgp will be anonomous in most games,wasting free kicks,and hitting the first man from corners.it will be a re-run of this season,we might do the double over blackpool and find 3 worse teams in the division than us.SUPER Sam Allardyce is god

To be fair 10th place again next season will do for me. I'd rather see slow and steady improvement than get rid of our manager and start afresh as you most likly would.

We are all entitled to our opinion. Our opinions tend to differ wagster, something that I am very happy about, and we are both entiltled to them but when you decide to get off your barstool and start supporting the club again maybe people will take you a little more seriously.

For the record if MGP was one of the best in the business he wouldn't be at a small town mid table club would he???

[den]

I think one of the biggest disappointments in Peds is the levels from which he has fallen. When he first came he was excellent, or at least the things that got him into the side were excellent. This is probably why so many dislike him, because we've seen what he can and is capable of doing. Whilst this disappoints/frustrates me too, it to me is another reason why we should keep him - if Sam could get back that player, then wow, we will look a much stronger team. Not saying Sam will, but the potential/talent is there.

He all round game wasn't excellent when he first came Blue Blood, it was his goals that kept him in the eye.

Many of us said at the time, that if and when the goals dried up, there wasn't much left. The Pedersen we see now, is the same Pedersen that first played for us, minus the goals.

[unluckymorton]

Which means that even if we did identify a new midfielder, we'd have to lump it because we've got players like Pedersen, Diouf and Grella devouring the wage bill. Same old story with Rovers. And like someone else rightly pointed out, this sets a shocking precedent for the players who ARE actually half-decent.

If you believe that drivel, then you'll believe anything. If we were his first choice, why did it take him so long?

I hadn't highlighted the 'first choice' business, my point was that ours is a well run club with a good management structure.

I would have thought it took him so long because as a free agent he wanted to weigh up his options and opt for the best one for himself just like anybody with half a brain and a decent career would do.

[braddock]

its funny how lard@rses rent boys think this is good for the club,next season will be under way ,we will be playing hoof ball and mgp will be anonomous in most games,wasting free kicks,and hitting the first man from corners.it will be a re-run of this season,we might do the double over blackpool and find 3 worse teams in the division than us.SUPER Sam Allardyce is god

as someone else mentioned, had you bothered going to the matches you may have noticed that we finished in 10th this season. anybody would accept that again next season.