[Archived] Morten Gamst Pedersen

[imy9]

25th in all time PL assists is some feat when you realise that 9 more and he is in the top 10, alongside some great players. MGP is a good PL player and signing him means more money for a striker.

[LeChuck]

25th in all time PL assists is some feat when you realise that 9 more and he is in the top 10, alongside some great players. MGP is a good PL player and signing him means more money for a striker.

Where is that stat from imy?

[Amo]

Ever get the impression John Williams is a great guy but a lousy businessman? Handing Pedersen a lucrative new deal must be up there with Keith Andrews' payrise, and hiring Ince and his goonies, before we had to pay them off.

I'd have drawn a hard line with Pedersen: short-team deal on equal pay (bonuses if I really wanted him) and given him a deadline to sign. Actually, that's a lie, I wouldn't have offered him a contract in the first place!

[imy9]

Page 67 from Hughesy, he is in with a very formidable group of people- 38 assists in 6 years is about 6 a year which would be a big loss, I know people would say he takes all the free kicks and throw ins but then so do other players at PL clubs-dont see them up there!

[Montfort]

I'm pleased that MGP is staying with us.

To be honest, I'm not surprised that his wages have gone up - and to be fair to him, he's probably not actually picking that much of a rise thanks to the new 50% tax rule that was recently brought in. He's probably stayed on about the same take home wage as before.

In my mind there's plenty of postitives about him staying too [over getting someone new in] - firstly, we know that he's settled and happy here and won't need any extra time to 'integrate' into the team. Getting a new signing, no matter who it is always brings in the element of the unknown and with MGP staying, all unknown risks are gone. MGP as stated before, works hard and is almost always available. He takes our set pieces and does them fairly well in my opinion. He gets a most of our assists and agree with me or not he does have the capacity in him to do something spectacular once in a while.

I just think that he's a soft target because we know what he's capable of and some expect him to do something special in every game. If he did, he wouldn't be here. Some people will just never change in directing their anger towards him. I remember one game I went to and some old boy was just giving him abuse for the whole game! Even when MGP and Diouf had switched wings, MGP was still getting abuse for not being on the left wing - the old boy was completely oblivious to the fact that they had switched! I'm glad that in his statement he acknowledges the 'brilliant fans' which shows that he can just ignore the idiots and appreciates the proper fans who get behind him and the team.

Good post. I agree

[Fife Rover]

its funny how lard@rses rent boys think this is good for the club,next season will be under way ,we will be playing hoof ball and mgp will be anonomous in most games,wasting free kicks,and hitting the first man from corners.it will be a re-run of this season,we might do the double over blackpool and find 3 worse teams in the division than us.SUPER Sam Allardyce is god

People might just give a slight bit of respect and credence to your opinions Waggy if you actually stuck to your word and did what you said you would do if Rovers finished in the top half under Allardyce. We are still waiting!!

[Steve Moss]

25th in all time PL assists is some feat when you realise that 9 more and he is in the top 10, alongside some great players. MGP is a good PL player and signing him means more money for a striker.

If top 10 in all time PL assists beckons for MGP, then signing him was a good deal. A year or two more, pushing him into the top 10, and some cash heavy, football crazed owner will buy him from us and we'll do very well.

[gumboots]

People might just give a slight bit of respect and credence to your opinions Waggy if you actually stuck to your word and did what you said you would do if Rovers finished in the top half under Allardyce. We are still waiting!!

Can I say that, personally, I'm not!!!

[braddock]

If top 10 in all time PL assists beckons for MGP, then signing him was a good deal. A year or two more, pushing him into the top 10, and some cash heavy, football crazed owner will buy him from us and we'll do very well.

no they won't

[LeChuck]

If top 10 in all time PL assists beckons for MGP, then signing him was a good deal.

I bet a lot of the other top 25 are also still playing, so to even trouble the top 10 he'd have to be getting far more assists than his peers...and that won't happen.

[TimmyJimmy]

I've been shovelling sh!t at work for weeks now so haven't had to much time to post, so to catch up ...

Peds is worth the money, we must be nett gainers, there's no transfer fee involved and by the time you strip out his performance bonus package and factor in the exchange rate the resulting figure doesn't distress me in any way. If he plays well and earns his extra bonus then we're all winners so what the heck. I happen to think he's good player - well to be more specific a good player in the category that is affordable to a club like ours. The boss likes him, he's already up to EPL speed and settled socially, what's not to like?

Big Sam - glad he's not off to the new pastures of WHAM.

Lewandowski - big loss I'm afraid to say, this boys good, ah well maybe in a few years time when we have billionaire backing.

Guti - yes please.

Raul - well go on then if you're going to insist

I'm still of my earlier opinion that Sam's got the team going in the right way. Peds repeats the story that keeps coming out that everyone likes the manager and respects where he's taking the club. Salgado said the same, Dunny said the same, Nelson said the same, Olly said the same so that sounds like a pretty positive dressing room to me. Peds is a part of that and it's good he's staying.

Guti in midfield and Sam's surprise mystery striker (who ever that turns out to be) plus the guys we have already - we're having a good season next year.

Right where's that shovel.

[Lurid Coat]

To my surprise, the good Gamst is a pretty decent writer. His latest blog entry was actually quite amusing and relatively well written, save for a few spelling blunders. Who would have thought, a footballer with a relatively good grasp of the written word! The post I'm referring to is only available in Norwegian, sadly, but hopefully he'll continue in the same vein when writing in English as well.

http://gamst.co.uk/no/2010/05/20/norwegian-jobb-sikret-de-neste-fire-ar/

[rovers1995]

What does the norwegian entry say?

[Hughesy]

Ever get the impression John Williams is a great guy but a lousy businessman? Handing Pedersen a lucrative new deal must be up there with Keith Andrews' payrise, and hiring Ince and his goonies, before we had to pay them off.

Lousy Businessman???? The same Lousy business man that has kept us fighting in the top league IN THE WORLD for 10 YEARS, with a small town team - and only minimal debts!!!

Keith Andrews payrise was built into his initial VERY low contract...so no getting out of that.

Ince - the model worked with Hughes & co, it didnt with Ince - you win some you lose some.

Gamst - On 50k??? Do you believe everything you read?!

[Amo]

Lousy Businessman???? The same Lousy business man that has kept us fighting in the top league IN THE WORLD for 10 YEARS, with a small town team - and only minimal debts!!!

I'd attribute a lot of that to our managers, actually. Where we would be without the money from Hughes's signings?

Keith Andrews payrise was built into his initial VERY low contract...so no getting out of that.

JW playing Mr. Nice Guy instead of counting the pennies. Andrews didn't deserve a payrise.

Ince - the model worked with Hughes & co, it didnt with Ince - you win some you lose some.

Ince =/= Hughes. Any fool could see that.

Gamst - On 50k??? Do you believe everything you read?!

Pedersen's agent seems to think so, and no one's come out and denied it. We stuck our neck out all season waiting for him to sign, it's hardly a surprise we've bumped his wages.

[T4E]

Pedersen's agent seems to think so, and no one's come out and denied it. We stuck our neck out all season waiting for him to sign, it's hardly a surprise we've bumped his wages.

Exactly - what do people think MGPs last contract was worth? It was signed after his few wondergoals when we were allegedly trying to fend off Spurs interest - he would have been on a decent wedge already. To get a payrise on top of that is madness in itself, but in reality should really be pushing him up around £50k per week easily. For a player with no more talent than Paul Gallagher, that is crazy.

[broadsword]

To contemplate another four years of watching him turn out for my team is just so profoundly depressing.

It's the sort of thing that makes retired colonels ask matron for their pearl-handled revolver 'cos they fancy a walk in the woods.

[unluckymorton]

Exactly - what do people think MGPs last contract was worth? It was signed after his few wondergoals when we were allegedly trying to fend off Spurs interest - he would have been on a decent wedge already. To get a payrise on top of that is madness in itself, but in reality should really be pushing him up around £50k per week easily. For a player with no more talent than Paul Gallagher, that is crazy.

Everybody getting their knickers in a twist about it is not going to change anything, MGP is a Rovers player whether people like it or not so shouldn't we as Rovers fans get behind the lad and hope for the best?

So many repetitive posts complaining about the rumoured package MGP has been given is getting really boring. If the player of the club releases a statement regarding how much he is earning then fine, but until then let's all get on with our lives and not get too upset about what certain members of our squad are earning. If Sam thinks he's worth it then so be it, he's made some cracking signings and thinks MGP is an important member of the squad.

[roversmum]

To contemplate another four years of watching him turn out for my team is just so profoundly depressing.

I can sympathise with your feelings. Flitty in later years had the same effect on me.

I have to confess, though, to being pleased that Gamst has signed a new contract. At least it means I won't get grief from Miss Roversmum ...

[Montfort]

To contemplate another four years of watching him turn out for my team is just so profoundly depressing.

For all of those 4 years Pederson has been a regular and generally we have not done that badly. Who are these other players who have been carrying Pederson for all of these years ? Why does he keep being picked for the team ? Why keep a player with such an appaling injury record - No scrap the last one.

As Barack Obamah said "everything that could be said, has been said. Twice!!

I resolve not to add to this thread only to be provoked by what I see has highly erroneous comments that sort of deserve a reply

[broadsword]

Well I think you're talking nonsense, so how do you like that?

[Hughesy]

1 - I'd attribute a lot of that to our managers, actually. Where we would be without the money from Hughes's signings?

2 - JW playing Mr. Nice Guy instead of counting the pennies. Andrews didn't deserve a payrise.

3 - Ince =/= Hughes. Any fool could see that.

4 - Pedersen's agent seems to think so, and no one's come out and denied it. We stuck our neck out all season waiting for him to sign, it's hardly a surprise we've bumped his wages.

1 - Managers play a big part yes, but JW plays a big part in who gets that job. As for the money of signings etc - who is the one that does the negotiating on deals, getting us £3m or whatever it was for Kuqi?!

2 - JW simply backed his manager (with the signing), but basically gave him a wage based on where he was coming from, with a promise of - play x games & prove yourself & earn x. IF we didnt honour that deal - surely other players would not be impressed with our behaviour.

3 - Maybe...but plenty on here wanted him at the time - he had an impressive record at lower levels. He was also an ex Fergie player which all seemed to be doing quite well.

4 - Seriously - when did any club come out and tell you the wages of a player?! Or come out and deny a specific amount?!

[Tris]

Exactly - what do people think MGPs last contract was worth? It was signed after his few wondergoals when we were allegedly trying to fend off Spurs interest - he would have been on a decent wedge already. To get a payrise on top of that is madness in itself, but in reality should really be pushing him up around £50k per week easily. For a player with no more talent than Paul Gallagher, that is crazy.

There's a lot of warped logic going on in this thread, and emotively chucking big numbers around doesn't help in a topic about one single player.

What we do know is that since MGPs last contract, the goalposts have moved. New TV deal for the PL, new 50% tax rate for top earners, new players arriving at Rovers on a different level of wage to most of those already here (I mean Givet, Diouf and Salgado in particular).

Samba's new deal was a reflection of that - players to talk to each other about such matters.

Only a handful of Rovers players have chalked up 30+ 1st team starts this season - Robinson, Samba, Givet, Nzonzi, Pedersen.

That fact, allied to the fact that the manager made keeping him at the club a major priority, means Pedersen was due wage parity with the likes of Samba, Givet, Salagado. Ability doesn't come into it - he's a PL player starting the vast majority of games.

No doubt there will be plenty more in the 1st team squad checking their expiry dates. Suggesting JW is a poor businessman (Topman) or that it's madness MGP gets a pay rise (T4E) is nonsense. JW can't overrule the manager on footballing decisions, so he has to pay the going rate for a player Allardyce sees as a key cog in the machine.

This is the simple economics of the Premier League. Whatever obscene sum Pedersen is being paid (and I personally don't believe some of the barmy numbers being bandied about on here) - it's the going rate for a regular 1st team starter at a mid table / lower half Premier League club.

[Ozz]

Well that seems to have done the trick!

[Majiball]

Wow. 7 assists from Peds is a poor return for someone who takes almost every throw-in, corner, free-kick. I'd be expecting a lot more for the kind of money he's on.

I've taken this from the "lets just post anything thread" (not aimed at you Topman).

Here's a link to put Gamst a little more in perspective.

Asists Table 09/10

If we signed anyone else on that list I think most of you would be very happy.