Tris Posted April 11, 2009 Posted April 11, 2009 Worked hard again today, but recieved no service and to be honest didnt recieve too many good crosses to attack either. Was cruelly exposed as a square peg in a round hole, won less than he should have in the air (being beaten even by Alonso), his movement was poor because he's not a striker and can't be expected to learn how to be one in two weeks flat ... We need him back in his proper position next Saturday.
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47er Posted April 12, 2009 Posted April 12, 2009 Did Ince ever try him right wing?! or left aka Oojier!!
ABBEY Posted April 12, 2009 Posted April 12, 2009 Why was he turned defender when he was 17? if he was a striker thats what he would be.We slated ince for playing players in wrong positions and i thought lessons would be learnt.You go to anfild etc with your strongest side and im afraid that means samba plays at the back and benni up front.
Mozzer Posted April 12, 2009 Posted April 12, 2009 i can actually see why allardyce choose to go with samba up front on his own and not mcarthy-atleast he worked hard-something you are not going to get from mcarthy-if we played mcarthy up front on his own against league two opposition they would have a easy ride-just imagine against top defenders.. you cant play blame samba-its the midfield for not getting up and supporting him.. as for playing andrews right back-id prefer him to play over danny simpson who i think is the worst player at our club, but maybe ooijer could have played there with zurab centre back..
Backroom DE. Posted April 12, 2009 Backroom Posted April 12, 2009 We should never have played Samba up front on his own. If we're that low on striking options we should have given one of the youths a chance up front instead, maybe even field a 4-4-1-1 and start Carlos behind said young striker. Samba could then have either gone back to DC where he belongs or have had a rest before the crunch Stoke game next week.
ABBEY Posted April 12, 2009 Posted April 12, 2009 or recall loanees ..wages ? oh they wont equal the millions lost if we go down.
Backroom DE. Posted April 12, 2009 Backroom Posted April 12, 2009 The only player I'd consider recalling is Judge, I don't think we can recall Gally and we definately can't recall Derbs.
Hughesy Posted April 13, 2009 Author Posted April 13, 2009 ABBEY - READ THIS SLOWLY..... WE CANNOT RECALL OUR LOAN STRIKERS - DERBYSHIRE OR GALLAGHER..... HOPEFULLY YOU UNDERSTOOD THAT!?!?!?
ABBEY Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 ABBEY - READ THIS SLOWLY..... WE CANNOT RECALL OUR LOAN STRIKERS - DERBYSHIRE OR GALLAGHER..... HOPEFULLY YOU UNDERSTOOD THAT!?!?!? WE SHOULDNT BE LENDING THEM OUT IN THE FIRST PLACE OR IF WE DO PUT A RECALL CLAUSE IN........DOH!!!! COMPRENDE??????? WE HAVE NOT GOT THE SQUAD DEPTH TO DO SO ..WHICH HAS JUST BEEN PROVEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SHAMLES FROM THE BOARD FOR ALLOWING THIS SITUATION TO ARISE.
Amo Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 It is rather depressing that players like Derbyshire have to be taken off the wage bill to accommodate a couple of signings. The squad is malnourished due to a prolonged lack of investment.
thenodrog Posted April 14, 2009 Posted April 14, 2009 It is rather depressing that players like Derbyshire have to be taken off the wage bill to accommodate a couple of signings. The squad is malnourished due to a prolonged lack of investment. There's that misleading term again. 'Donation' being much closer the mark. SteB can you do that Lancs Utd thingy with the term 'investment' that'll turn it into 'fools gold' or similar? btw To all that criticise our financial situation. We may not be big spenders in transfer fees, thank goodness, and I've no stats to back me up but after the top 4 aren't we quite high in the actual salary stakes?
JC4LAB Posted April 14, 2009 Posted April 14, 2009 Were we voting for player of the year to now ,I would rate Samba as our best performing player after Brett Emerton(so sorry hes crocked) this season...Best keep him where he belongs and doing what he does best..We really need to halt our inferior goal difference...
waggy Posted April 14, 2009 Posted April 14, 2009 one thing lardarse should have learnt from saturday samba is no centre forward,ok throw him up front when we need a goal,but for 90 minutes no
dopper69 Posted April 14, 2009 Posted April 14, 2009 Had to have a chuckle to my self watching the game at the weekend on sky. Big Sam: 'I watched how Drogba changed the game (Liverppol v Chelsea) and saw the same in Samba' He is a f@@@@n centre back!
Backroom DE. Posted April 14, 2009 Backroom Posted April 14, 2009 The Samba upfront experiment must be stopped... put him in defence where he belongs. Perhaps throw him up there to unsettle teams late in the game, as a last resort, but that's all.
blue phil Posted April 14, 2009 Posted April 14, 2009 The Samba upfront experiment must be stopped... put him in defence where he belongs. Perhaps throw him up there to unsettle teams late in the game, as a last resort, but that's all. If Sam was determined to play one up front he had the choice to play the semi fit and lethargic McCarthy or Samba . He made the right choice . Incidentally , the Telegraph's headline "I don't blame Samba" was a disgrace . He was about the only one to emerge from the carnage with any credit .
BRFC1995 Posted April 14, 2009 Posted April 14, 2009 was'nt paul warhust a cd then got chucked upfront for wednesday scored quite a few and we then payed big money for him, it can work just does'nt really work too well in a rovers shirt, its so long ago now i can hardly remember whether warhurst was ever any good for us.
Eddie Posted April 14, 2009 Posted April 14, 2009 If Sam was determined to play one up front he had the choice to play the semi fit and lethargic McCarthy or Samba . He made the right choice . Incidentally , the Telegraph's headline "I don't blame Samba" was a disgrace . He was about the only one to emerge from the carnage with any credit . So incorrect tactics justify poor selection? He didn't have to be determined to play one up front, no one was forcing his hand. He had other options and taking away our best defender from the last few weeks and sticking him up front was a mistake. Liverpool have good defenders and big defenders and were unlikely to be too troubled with longball tactics and Carragher (with a little help from the ref) was able to keep Samba pretty much contained. Even if Samba had dominated in the air our set-up meant that no one was there to benefit from his work and we were only hurting ourselves with the way that we approached the game. Throwing Samba up front makes sense when we are chasing games and he will trouble defenders in the last 10/20 minutes of games, but he isn't up to leading the line alone against one of the best defences in Europe. Hopefully Saturday will see him back to the position where he is best, he's been our best defender over the past couple of weeks and we need him back there.
thenodrog Posted April 15, 2009 Posted April 15, 2009 Too many think we have 4 strikers to pick from. We dont. We have 1 and he'd be worse than useless last week up front on his own against that lot. Samba did OK but no other player was willing to get up in support of him.
Hughesy Posted April 15, 2009 Author Posted April 15, 2009 Who would people go with against Stoke? Benni on his own? Benni & Carlos? Benni & Samba?
thenodrog Posted April 15, 2009 Posted April 15, 2009 Who would people go with against Stoke? Benni on his own? Benni & Carlos? Benni & Samba? Benni and Diouff?
John Posted April 15, 2009 Posted April 15, 2009 Benni and Diouff? Was just about to post that! Samba has to return to defence.
RevidgeBlue Posted April 15, 2009 Posted April 15, 2009 Benni and Diouff? Yup. I'm sure his mystery "illness" will have cleared up as quickly as it came.
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