[Archived] Fifa World Cup 2010 - South Africa Thread

[Kelbo]

Can't find the other WC thread so this will do.

Anybody think Beckham could have a Tugay role? I know it's only Andorra today and he might lack the technical ability against top sides, but he's been impressive.

Yes, I do agree,his range of passing was brilliant, plus his set piece threat!!

[JAL]

Can't find the other WC thread so this will do.

Anybody think Beckham could have a Tugay role? I know it's only Andorra today and he might lack the technical ability against top sides, but he's been impressive.

Beckham is like a conductor of an orchestra on a football field what he needs is to be surrounded by runners. Right now i'd say Beckham would contribute far more to a team than tugay ever did.

Hughesy says hes too slow, right now i'd strongly disagree about that.

[Presty On Tour]

The Jimmy Greaves interview at half time was brilliant!

[Rover down South]

The Jimmy Greaves interview at half time was brilliant!

Agreed. I reckon he'd had an ale or two.

In response to Beckham comments, I thought he was quality tonight, weak opposition or not. Walcott looked very good too.

[Amo]

England sweep aside a part-time International team, and it's back to the wild hysteria.

Golden Generation?

[joey_big_nose]

Right now i'd say Beckham would contribute far more to a team than tugay ever did.

I think thats massively unfair. Tugay could have done what Beckham did against Andorra. Maybe the long range passing wouldn't have been quite as good, but it would have done the job. And the big difference between Tugay and Beckham is that Toogs close control and turning is a gabillion times better than Golden Balls - hence how he can still reatin the ball in the middle of the pitch in the Prem at 38! If David can't do that at 31!

Interestingly Beckham once voted for Tugay in the PFA Awards. 2004 I think - he has alway s wanted to be that sort of deep lying play maker.

[T4E]

Interestingly Beckham once voted for Tugay in the PFA Awards. 2004 I think - he has alway s wanted to be that sort of deep lying play maker.

Where did you hear that?

[Anti-Dingle-Brigade]

Everyone's known about that for years Toogs.

[Tris]

The Jimmy Greaves interview at half time was brilliant!

Agreed. I reckon he'd had an ale or two.

He gave it up 30 years ago! Doesn't even attend the '66 squad annual reunions because of that.

[steven]

Managed to pick up 2 tickets to the final. Happy days!!

[American Rover12]

very exciting for you, congrats

[brfcshabba]

North Korea have qualified for the World Cup.

[Bobby G]

At our expense...

[Anti Euro Smiths Fan]

Please be very careful any girls (or boys) planning to go to South Africa in 2010....

According to a report on Thursday on the BBC, a staggering one in four South African men is a rapist, with nearly half admitting to having raped more than one victim.

Professor Rachel Jewkes told the BBC's World Today programme: "South African men have been socialised into forms of masculinity that are predicated on the idea of using force to assert dominance and control over women, as well as other men."

The report says that the gang raping of women is common in South Africa and that men are also commonly raped by brutes in the country, with research indicating that one in 10 men in South Africa has been raped by other men. It's reported that South Africa has the highest per capita rate of rapes in the world and that a child is raped in South Africa every three minutes.

Normally I prefer to watch games live at grounds rather than at home on the TV - but next year I'll certainly be watching the World Cup at home sitting on my sofa with a few drinks. This is not a country that I'd like to visit....

Link: The appalling number of South African rapists.

[joey_big_nose]

Its pretty amazing that. Christ. And whats even more bizarre is that it is freely admitted in a survey.

[Mc Love]

Anyone see that Ross Kemp on gangs when he visited a prison in SA? He was interviewing leader of one of the prison gangs and quizzed him about why he has sex/rapes men when they come in if he isnt gay and yer man said it was the thing to iniate them or something.

I know some people down there now for the Lions tour. Hope they get back safely.

[waggy]

Please be very careful any girls (or boys) planning to go to South Africa in 2010....

According to a report on Thursday on the BBC, a staggering one in four South African men is a rapist, with nearly half admitting to having raped more than one victim.

Professor Rachel Jewkes told the BBC's World Today programme: "South African men have been socialised into forms of masculinity that are predicated on the idea of using force to assert dominance and control over women, as well as other men."

The report says that the gang raping of women is common in South Africa and that men are also commonly raped by brutes in the country, with research indicating that one in 10 men in South Africa has been raped by other men. It's reported that South Africa has the highest per capita rate of rapes in the world and that a child is raped in South Africa every three minutes.

Normally I prefer to watch games live at grounds rather than at home on the TV - but next year I'll certainly be watching the World Cup at home sitting on my sofa with a few drinks. This is not a country that I'd like to visit....

Link: The appalling number of South African rapists.

if your going better pack the ky jelly

[philipl]

Guardian- scary stuff

[Tris]

Flights booked! 3 weeks in Cape Town ... tickets for 6 matches ... sorted.

[Tim Southampton Rover]

Pedersen has just scored just before half time to dent Scotland's hope of qualifying.

[Iceman]

Every damn country has bloody crime ffs. Im getting so tired of all the negativity surrounding our country. If you have never visited SA, then please do not judge or comment based on what you read

[Anti Euro Smiths Fan]

Special stab-vests made for one of the most violent countries in the world - South Africa.

London-based company Protektorvest, which currently sells its merchandise online, says there is a "high demand" for protective clothing for the World Cup in South Africa this summer.

The stab-vests cost close to $70 (£43). The company told the BBC: "We fulfil a need from security-conscious people".

In 2002, South Africa was reported to be the most dangerous country in the world, not at war. A staggering 15,000 people were murdered in the country between January and September 2001.

(LINK HERE)

Every damn country has bloody crime ffs. If you have never visited SA, then please do not judge or comment based on what you read

I haven't visited the country, but some of the comments from people in the above BBC link who have indeed lived in South Africa are quite disturbing to read.

To quote Jurek: "I was carjacked two years ago in Johannesburg while waiting on red light. I managed to escape... the attacker smashed my left window with the brick and tried to get me out of the car. The police told me afterwards that should he have had a gun I would be dead."

Ryan van der Merwe from Zambia says: "The crime in South Africa seems to be an ever increasing problem for both residents and visitors to the nation. Recently I was robbed at gunpoint, my car stolen along with all my possessions and even my shoes. I have a number of Zambian friends who are at university there, one of whom was recently stabbed and attacked for money on the university premises. I think that South Africa faces a challenging time ahead."

Indeed it does.

Mark from England says: "Having lost 4 of my good friends in the period of one year in 2000, all being murdered in cold blood, I decided as beautiful as South Africa is I could not live there any more."

It hardly paints a flattering picture of South Africa does it?

And as previously mentioned, South Africa is also reported to be "the rape capital of the world", according to a BBC report in 2009, with gang rape prevalent and a child raped every three minutes in South Africa.

Professor Rachel Jewkes told the BBC's World Today programme: "The absolute imperative is we have to change the underlying social attitudes that in a way have created a norm that coercing women into sex is on some level acceptable. We know that we have a higher prevalence of rape in South Africa than there is in other countries."

My advice to people going to the World Cup in the summer is please be very careful. It's not just knife attacks that people should be aware and concerned about. A stab-vest won't protect you from being raped, with gang rapes sadly very common in South Africa.

LINK HERE

[Ste B]

My advice to people going to the World Cup in the summer is please be very careful. It's not just knife attacks that people should be aware and concerned about. A stab-vest won't protect you from being raped, with gang rapes sadly very common in South Africa.

LINK HERE

Daily mail style overreaction again as usual. Having got back from there last week, so long as you keep your wits about you and stick to the tourist areas you're fine. Cape Town is especially nice.

I wouldnt however go walking through a township or stop in some of the small towns in the middle of nowhere.

[waggy]

thats were i'll be heading then steb

[waggy]

fifa have started another ticket sale.england games available now and again