[Archived] Campaign For Tugay Testimonial

[Blue n White Rover]

Time to clone him

[thenodrog]

tugay should be kept at the club in some coaching capacity,but somehow the way TUGAY plays the game,and the way lardarse wants to play it,are as different as chalk and cheese

Thats rubbish waggy. Tugays talents cannot be coached they are God given and linked to his personality too.

If he wants to be a coach he gets his badges and applies through the normal channels. Somehow though he doesn't seem the coaching type to me.

[JAL]

Thats rubbish waggy. Tugays talents cannot be coached they are God given.

If he wants to be a coach he gets his badges and applies through the normal channels. Somehow though he doesn't seem the coaching type to me.

One absolutely essential key to coaching is communication, dont know Tugay but i'd have thought communication isnt his stongest point and afterall Paul Ince struggled on that front didnt he .

[Iceman]

Jal you have completely lost it up there. Fair enough Toogs hasnt been here 10 years, but when a guy has been loyal to the club you can as a club give him what he truly deserves. He gave you and all of us momence of sheer brilliance, class and has been fantastic in the way he has conducted himself as a true professional.

[grinder]

Praise he definitley deserves, testmonial he doesnt.

Ten years service is normally the standard reward for a servant to achieve a testimonial, unfortunately Tugays service has fallen short of that length of time.

Rules is rules eh ? Hmm you are not a traffic warden by any chance ?

Was walking past a bar in Istanbul last year - Turkey struggling in the Euros, stopped to watch the TV for a few minutes, commented to a few guys that they needed Tugay - next minute loads of them are shouting TUGAY TUGAY TUGAY

- brilliant

[Iceman]

What rules? Because he didnt play for 10 years, we cant give him a testimonial? Rubbish, we will just then call it a Tugay appreciation match, disguised it as a testimonial. Call it what you want, the man deserves a proper farewell, and a match is just a perfect way to say thank you, you Turkish Delight!

[LeChuck]

Thats rubbish waggy. Tugays talents cannot be coached they are God given and linked to his personality too.

If he wants to be a coach he gets his badges and applies through the normal channels. Somehow though he doesn't seem the coaching type to me.

Must say I agree 100% with this. I don't how anybody expects Tugay to coach what he has onto others. Isn't he a bit of a legendary bad trainer and heavy smoker? I'm sure there is something he can do for the club (scouting Turkey and surrounding areas maybe?) but, unless he does his badges, I don't think I'd want him coaching for us.

[Bobby G]

Ive just invited about 50 more people to the facebook group. Id think we can be about 5,000 before contact is made with JW...

If I was in England, Id invite Gala...Im sure a few Turks would travel for the game. Make the tickets about 10 pounds and you can have a sell-out.

Id even consider retiring his number. Which one though, he has had a couple here. But possibly the last one, 5.

[Lurid Coat]

8 is the new 10! No one stays at a club for 10 years nowadays unless you're one of Fergie's disciples

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

If the club decide that a testimonial is the way to go then inviting Galatasaray would be a bad move. Such a game wouldn't get the interest going at all, and he needs a big name to pull in the punters.

Glasgow Rangers are the only option in my book, but absolutely no chance of that happening. Rangers would bring 10k at least and that would make it a real occasion, but it won't happen after 200 or so that rioted in Manchester, shame really.

You would be in for quite a shock Gav at just how many Gala fans would travel to Ewood....think of the Turkish community alone in the UK.

A testimonial for Tugay would be the icing on the cake and something to really look forward too pre-season.

[Lathund]

Id even consider retiring his number. Which one though, he has had a couple here. But possibly the last one, 5.

I'm very much in favour of a testimonial, or anything else to give Tugay the recognition he deserves. Talent aside (And he had more of that than most), he always did his utmost to make his team win, whether that was through his attacking genius or through making a professional foul, and he kept quiet to the media. I don't have a bad word to say about him.

However, I don't want his number retired. In football the numbers 1-11, and to a lesser extent even the dozen or so numbers after that, are special. In ice hocket, basketball, baseball or american football the numbers are (More or less) all the same. There's no more "prestige" for an NFL Quarterback to wear number 4 than number 18 (QBs must wear numbers 1-20) There, a player is his number to a certain extent, and it makes sense to retire numbers. Wayne Gretzky *is* #99, noone else can do that number justice. Just to take one example. In football, a number is more of a type of player than a specific player. All great clubs have had several great players succeed eachother in various positions, which makes it such an honor for a player to wear one of those numbers.

Like you say, Tugay had several numbers; 5, 8 and maybe others. Which makes it even harder to retire it. He's also not what you'd typically associate with a #5, although IIRC Zidane also wore it so it's not unprecented for genius playmakers to wear it.

[John]

Think the man is such a legend and top guy that something has to be done. He has been a joy to watch and clearly has the club in his heart. He also is probably the most popular player within the dressing room, everyone loves him to bits (not just the fans).

[Hughesy]

I cant imagine many Turkish fans making the trip for a testimonial to be honest. Does he hold legend status still amongst them??

[Anti-Dingle-Brigade]

I'd say he's more of a legend there than he is here, Hughesy.

[Wild Irish Rover]

Of course, he could always use the proceeds from a testimonial to pay for his Coaching Badge courses

What I sense most people are suggesting is that there should be some formal recognition for a player that has served the club exceedingly well in these times when loyalty is a word used to extort more in bonus payments money from a club.. Plus Toogs does have a very special relationship with the fans-I mean, who else could you seriously call an entertainer in recent memory.

[Hannah]

The whole Tugay as a player - coach - I'm not sure that is ever going to happen, not while Sam is here. From what I know about his time at Bolton he felt very strongly about there being a line between the playing team and coaching team. Wives of the coaches were not allowed to be friendly with the wives of the footballers and the coaching/management team were not allowed to socialise.

Gary Speed wanted to be a player coach at Bolton and it didn't happen until after Sam Allardyce had left. One of the current coaching team's missus works with my Mum and ahd said that Sam had taken her to one side and told her off for being with them on a match day!

[Hughesy]

How about a scouting role for Tugay? He could un-earth some real talent over in Turkey.

[blue phil]

And what about those of us who couldn't travel to turkey either because we can't just take time off work when we want to or because like my husband it would take us a week to get there because we'd have to travel overland ( he has a serious plane phobia - feels ill just going to an airport to pick someone up. He is, however, Tugay's biggest fan) If it happens it's at Ewood - hope your suggestion was a windup and not serious.

Can't get time off work !!

I thought you were a teacher ....you'd have time to walk to Turkey .

PS - only a wind up ; I think I'm ready for a Euro trip that's all

[Shabani]

JAL = Victorian Mill Owner

[gumboots]

JAL = Victorian Mill Owner

But even they liked to give people things to make them feel good at times.

Can't get time off work !!

I thought you were a teacher ....you'd have time to walk to Turkey .

PS - only a wind up ; I think I'm ready for a Euro trip that's all

Didn't say I couldn't get time off. Just don't have the freedom to choose when I want to take it. It's then only downside of teaching really - that you have to take your hols when all the schools are off and prices are at their highest.

[rovgers]

Rovers always play there last pre-season game with a game at ewood park, so it should be easy to arrange a game that could be titled as Tugays testimonial game.

I think the idea of using our last home game this season, especially if we are safe, as a Tugay day. We could copy the idea that Rangers fans did in the scottish cup final, when loads of the fans wore orange to honour advocaat. Maybe we could wear red and have turkey flags etc for this game, maybe we could get t-shirts or masks made for the occasion!

[tonygreenbank]

The reception he got on Sunday as he was substituted would suggest most Rovers fans would want to show their appreciation one last time! The club must recognise his contribution in some way.

[stuwilky]

How about Gala in the preseason warm up as a double up?

Rovers always play there last pre-season game with a game at ewood park, so it should be easy to arrange a game that could be titled as Tugays testimonial game.

I think the idea of using our last home game this season, especially if we are safe, as a Tugay day. We could copy the idea that Rangers fans did in the scottish cup final, when loads of the fans wore orange to honour advocaat. Maybe we could wear red and have turkey flags etc for this game, maybe we could get t-shirts or masks made for the occasion!

How about Gala in the preseason warm up as a double up?

That'll teach me to read the rest of the thread befoer posting my bright ideas

[rover6]

I don't mean to annoy anyone but did Tugay really hit the heights being implied by some people? He is/was an incredible talent but, from my memory, even at his best, he could be inconsistent from game to game (giving the ball away quite a lot). He's not been as integral a player to Rovers as Lampard has been for Chelsea or Keane for Utd - but it's all relative. If anything, Damien Duff was more influential for us. I suspect that Tugay's real glory days were actually in Turkey.

Before you make a mess of me, I still adore everything about him - most notable his style of play (Allardyce take NOTE!). The fact that he was there back in the days of John Curtis and Marcus Bent and is still here and playing is remarkable.

[Tris]

He's a low profile, quiet guy. The personal exposure that any sort of testimonial would generate ..... nah - that's not Tugay.

He'll wave to us all on May 24th and we'll all wave back, and we'll replay the great memories in our minds.

I don't think I'll see another Tugay in my lifetime supporting Rovers.