[Archived] Season Tickets 09/10

[Ozz]

I can't believe I'm picking holes in the ST deal....but anyway if the club had offered £199 for a ST in the DE, they could have set a time limit on the offer-for example, £199 if bought/committed to upto the end of May, or 15th June etc. This would deal with the issue raised by Tris regarding housing them elsewhere during the big four games, thus enabling the club to maximise revenue from them. It would also put some pressure on fans to buy early too.

[4ever&ever]

Yeah there is no doubt that ''loyal'' season ticket holders should be able to get more bennefits than the new fans.

However the aim at the reduced tickets is to get more season ticket holders and not penalise them. It is also aimed at creating a better atmosphere at Ewood park, something that has been lost by a number of the ''loyal'' fans in recent years.

As has been mentioned, the price is still a hell of a lot cheaper than any other Premier league club but it is my concern that we will not attract as many supporters in the Darwen end as we could have had we given an option to pre reserve those 4 games and included them into a package deal.

It's just a shame if this turns out to be a stumbling block after all the clubs hard work. I was looking forward to a packed and vibrant Darwen end however it doesn't appear to be turning out that way, granted there is still planty of time left.

[Hasta]

The problem here is that Rovers have only half announced the package for the Darwen End season tickets and then encouraged people to buy. I can understand why they have had to do this due to timings and getting them on sale but without knowing the availability of seats elsewhere and the games omitted it has been a bit cloudy.

Even though it doesn't affect me, I never thought that the cost of attending all 19 games if you took up the Darwen End season ticket would be as high as £250. I can understand why people are a bit miffed.

If Season ticket holders in the JW are paying £299 then that is just under £16 per game. Why not offer the Darwen End season ticket holders the extra games at that price? It's not like the season ticket holders in that stand could complain because that is what they are paying. It does make you wonder if, due to capacity issues around the ground, the club actually don't want all season ticket holders in the Darwen End to attend the games which they have to move seats for.

[Beta Ray Bill]

Why shouldn't those fans get the other games for £10 a time please explain Bill ?

Should they not be treated the same as everyone else, if you get a limo, they should get a limo, if you get a free ice cream they should get a free ice cream.

People that I know who are going into the Darwen end are doing so for the unreserved seating as well as the view. Not because it is £50 cheaper (although there may be a few that are) I'd be more than happy to pay the same as everyone else, I chose the Darwen end because of the atmosphere that can be created in there if things are done right.

I've been in the JW or Riverside over the last few years and both those stands have their faults in my opinion, Riverside facilities and JW lack of atmosphere.

Because the club made it perfectly clear that the deal was £150 for £15 matches with preference and discount for the other 4. They didnt say "oh we'll move you to another stand for a tenner as well."

No-one is being penalised, those who have chosen a DES seat knew what they were buying.

[Blue n White Rover]

i got a call from the ticket office earlier, they/the computer messed up and i ended up with a exitsting STH's seat lucky there was the 1 seat in NO1, but right at the front. luck iv got a xfer put in to move back to NO2. was nice of them to ring and ask if it was okay for me to move rather that just moving me

My brother had the same problem, however he got a letter in the post explaining the situation. He did get moved across to an alternate seat in the BBE. The letter also confirms that there are no seats left in the BBE!

[67splitscreen]

Because the club made it perfectly clear that the deal was £150 for £15 matches with preference and discount for the other 4. They didnt say "oh we'll move you to another stand for a tenner as well."

No-one is being penalised, those who have chosen a DES seat knew what they were buying.

Yes they are like it or not £250 does not equate to £199 for similar facilities.

Even allowing for the sale line of "with preference and discount for the other 4" why would anyone assume they would have to pay £100 for the other 4.

It's the sort of pitch a double glazing sales man would make (open ended) and as some have already mentioned, many may be hanging back until all the facts are in front of them.

It will be interesting to see how the D/E S/T sell from here on in. If it gets close to a sell out then it has worked. If it doesn't where do the club go from here. That's a topic for another day.

[Beta Ray Bill]

Yes they are like it or not £250 does not equate to £199 for similar facilities.

Even allowing for the sale line of "with preference and discount for the other 4" why would anyone assume they would have to pay £100 for the other 4.

It's the sort of pitch a double glazing sales man would make (open ended) and as some have already mentioned, many may be hanging back until all the facts are in front of them.

It will be interesting to see how the D/E S/T sell from here on in. If it gets close to a sell out then it has worked. If it doesn't where do the club go from here. That's a topic for another day.

Nope.

If a double glazing salesman came round and said "you can have 15 of your 19 windows done for a certain price, but we can't say yet what the others 4 will cost" or "you can have all your 19 windows done for a fixed price" then it's up to you to choose which option you go for. You'd be a little dense if you thought you'd get exactly the same deal on the remaining 4 windows, especially as they are 'better windows' (here in terms of matches and the place you'd be sitting).

If you wanted certainty as to where you sit and what price you are paying ...you get a full season ticket.

If you want some flexibility as to where you sit, and realise you might end up spending a little more, or have the option to stay at home for those matches and therefore save £49 ... you get a DES ticket.

[4ever&ever]

Because the club made it perfectly clear that the deal was £150 for £15 matches with preference and discount for the other 4. They didnt say "oh we'll move you to another stand for a tenner as well."

Preference and discount for the other 4 ?

Was the preference - which stand you would like to sit in ? and with the discounted rates fair enough but it's still higher than any other season ticket holder pays for the same game, even those in the same stand.

Fair enough those people know that they are only getting 15 games but the issue is that the club could have made the scheme an even bigger success by creating a package deal, were the fans get all the games with the other 4 being charged at the same rate as the JW stand.

After all the selling out of both ends of the grounds was one of the priorities for the club. It's pretty obvious that with the riverside nearly sold out, that the £150 deal isn't as attractive as they would have hoped.

[waggy]

Has he rung Waggy?

he did and i slammed the phone down when i realised it was a recording

[67splitscreen]

Nope.

If a double glazing salesman came round and said "you can have 15 of your 19 windows done for a certain price, but we can't say yet what the others 4 will cost" or "you can have all your 19 windows done for a fixed price" then it's up to you to choose which option you go for. You'd be a little dense if you thought you'd get exactly the same deal on the remaining 4 windows, especially as they are 'better windows' (here in terms of matches and the place you'd be sitting).

If you wanted certainty as to where you sit and what price you are paying ...you get a full season ticket. In the BBE/RS yes it seem to have worked fine, and I'm sure they are all very happy.

If you want some flexibility as to where you sit, Im sure that was a big + point to many.and realise you might end up spending a little more, I'm not sure paying £49 more was a realization to many, and other MB's seem to justify this point, or have the option to stay at home for those matches Sort of defeats the object of the slogan "taking back ewood" and therefore save £49 ... you get a DES ticket.

So the guy next door got the full 19 for £199 what is your expectation for the remaining four, pretty much the same as the guy next door got i would expect, in most peoples minds I would have thought.

You take the offer of 15 for £150 then when the final costing is done your told the extra 4 windows will cost you £100, I would still be asking the same question's.

IMO the club has shot itself in the foot here with some very bad PR on top of what initially was a tremendous offer to the fans. I'm not saying it's still not good value, it just seems to have been handled badly and unfair but hey that's life, we live and learn.

In my case this is not sour grapes, I'm no longer a S/T holder, I'm a supporter of the club like all on here, the whole package could have been disclosed earlier, but that may have resulted in seats in the other (£199) areas being left empty, so release it know as most areas mentioned are sold out.

As I said previously it will be interesting to see how the full package now effects the sales.

[philipl]

I think the club got their season ticket offer spot on.

The arguments against are so wet that it is only re-enforcing my conviction in that regard.

[unluckymorton]

I think the club got their season ticket offer spot on.

The arguments against are so wet that it is only re-enforcing my conviction in that regard.

I agree. Rovers have got it spot on.

If you don't want to go to all the home games buy a £200 season ticket. If you want to go to 15 games and queue for a ticket for the other 4 games buy a Darwen End ticket. It is totally fair, the choice is yours. first come first served. It's easy to get your head round as as from what I have been told, the staff at the ticket office are doing a tremendous job accommodating new customers and existing customers who are changing seats. 2 choices, £150 for 15 games, £200 for 19 games.

Rovers are trying to fill the ground, that is what we all want. We want the scenario where tickets are few and far between, fans having to show urgency in purchasing tickets well in advance to secure their seat. we have been so laid back for years as it has been so easy to get a ticket. Even Hull City have waiting lists for tickets, that's because it is a large city with a small ground. Rovers need to get fans to WANT tickets rather than leave it to the day of the game to decide.

I believe that the 'other four' games are to be a fixed price of £25 for Darwen End ST holders, so what's the issue?

[waggy]

burnley were always going to be one of the teams that get the whole darwen end,i can see rovers fans who get season tickets in the darwen end,being moved about a lot next season.it was the reason why i moved out years ago.many premiership teams bring over 3k fans with them,so i can see rovers fans in the upper tiers,or in one half off the darwen end.we will not sell over 2k tickets in this area of the ground

[Hasta]

I agree. Rovers have got it spot on.

If you don't want to go to all the home games buy a £200 season ticket. If you want to go to 15 games and queue for a ticket for the other 4 games buy a Darwen End ticket. It is totally fair, the choice is yours. first come first served. It's easy to get your head round as as from what I have been told, the staff at the ticket office are doing a tremendous job accommodating new customers and existing customers who are changing seats. 2 choices, £150 for 15 games, £200 for 19 games.

Rovers are trying to fill the ground, that is what we all want. We want the scenario where tickets are few and far between, fans having to show urgency in purchasing tickets well in advance to secure their seat. we have been so laid back for years as it has been so easy to get a ticket. Even Hull City have waiting lists for tickets, that's because it is a large city with a small ground. Rovers need to get fans to WANT tickets rather than leave it to the day of the game to decide.

I believe that the 'other four' games are to be a fixed price of £25 for Darwen End ST holders, so what's the issue?

The issue is that all other season ticket holders get 'the other four games' for under £16 except JW central upper who pay approx £18. Darwen End season ticket holders have to pay £25.

The other day we were moaning that the sales for the Darwen End were suprisingly low and hoping that latecomers would start snapping up these tickets. This will hardly help.

What logic is there for Rovers to not offer tickets at say £18 to the Darwen End season ticket holders when that is the maximum that all other season ticket holders in the ground are paying?

[philipl]

Market forces Hasta,

Blackburn End and Riverside sold out so its £250+ for 19 in the JW or £150 for 15 in the Darwen End and the option to buy the other four for £100.

The way the ticket sales are going is pretty well as the club envisaged.

[67splitscreen]

I think the club got their season ticket offer spot on.

The arguments against are so wet that it is only re-enforcing my conviction in that regard.

What's so wet about having to pay £7 more than anyone else in the ground.

[Roaming Rover]

We discussed moving from the JW Upper to the Darwen end. But thought it would be cheap Season Tickets but pretty expensive (in comparison) match day tickets, and expected the total cost for all 19 games in the Darwen end to be £250, so stayed in the JW.

The club have to try and get a balance between offering cheap ST and bringing in a fair amount of revenue. I imagine that all 19 games in the Darwen End for £199 will bring in far less cash than the £150 plus the extra games, especially if people with STs do not go to the other 4 games.

I bet fans of other clubs must read this thread in amazement at people complaining at paying £250 for a full premiership season, when they are forking out £700 to well over £1000 for their tickets.

[Bob the Builder]

I think the club got their season ticket offer spot on.

The arguments against are so wet that it is only re-enforcing my conviction in that regard.

I think the season ticket offer has been great/superb/groundbreaking in principle but in terms of organization and planning has been ###### poor.

For starters season ticket prices should have been announced in full prior to Tugay day. I don’t accept that this couldn’t have been done due to timing. We where safe from the week before flyers could have been sent to print on the Monday and given to every fan at Ewoods biggest home attendance for years.

Also the full details of all pricing should have been announced together, then everyone could have made a educated decision of where to sit. Stating what the reduced price of tickets would be for each game.

Problems with postage of renewal packs may have been outside the clubs control but it adds to an overall feel of amateurism.

Hopefully when the 1st of July comes 99% of season tickets will have been renewed and we will have big crowds in three sides of Ewood next year. Not sure we will have lots of fans in the Darwen end matching the ‘crucial three’ which I understood was the original plan.

As it stands it’s still a better price than attending 6 catB games which a lot of fans will do, but the way the news has come out makes it feel like a bit of an anti-climax. If the news had come out up front everyone would have been fine.

The one thing I would like to here the club say now is that the preferential week of sales would be prior to giving tickets to the away fans. If all Dawen End ticket holders can’t be accommodated in the JW stand part of the Darwen end will be reserved for home fans for that game, even if it’s just half the upper tier. Tickets in the preferential period would need to be sold as a postal application or online equivalent stating 1st choice of stand if home demand merited use of part of the Darwen end.

[Hasta]

Market forces Hasta,

Exactly. Rovers know they can get away with charging so are doing. Goes against everything else they have done with their 'taking back Ewood' policy.

[unluckymorton]

The issue is that all other season ticket holders get 'the other four games' for under £16 except JW central upper who pay approx £18. Darwen End season ticket holders have to pay £25.

The other day we were moaning that the sales for the Darwen End were suprisingly low and hoping that latecomers would start snapping up these tickets. This will hardly help.

What logic is there for Rovers to not offer tickets at say £18 to the Darwen End season ticket holders when that is the maximum that all other season ticket holders in the ground are paying?

Everybody has had the same chance to snap up a season ticket in whichever part of the ground they wanted. I went online and renewed as soon as the tickets were available.

If the Darwen End isn't ideal for you you can choose other area's of the ground. At £21.40/month direct debit surely that is affordable for all? 2 pints a week less, 4 packets of fags a week less, 2 take away's a week less....

It's not as if season ticket holders have been sat on the Darwen End for the last 5, 10 or 15 years and are now being ousted, it's just another option.

Market forces Hasta,

Blackburn End and Riverside sold out so its £250+ for 19 in the JW or £150 for 15 in the Darwen End and the option to buy the other four for £100.

The way the ticket sales are going is pretty well as the club envisaged.

I'd have been happy if it was £250 in the Blackburn End this season, I was amazed that it was £199.

Let's fill the ground next season. I hope it is possible to seat all the Darwen End ST holders for the 'other 4' games.

[Hasta]

If the Darwen End isn't ideal for you you can choose other area's of the ground. At £21.40/month direct debit surely that is affordable for all? 2 pints a week less, 4 packets of fags a week less, 2 take away's a week less....

Doesn't directly affect me. I'll be sat in the Blackburn End as I have been since it was rebuilt and I would also have been delighted if it was £250. Just because I'm all right doesn't mean I can't sympathise with those in the Darwen End who I think have got a bit of a raw deal.

What reasoning is there for not offering these season ticket holders the option of tickets for the 4 games that aren't included in their package at the same price as other season ticket holders are paying? Instead they are having to pay nearly 60% more than most other season ticket holders.

[ABBEY]

The point being ABBEY all these people who'd turn up for this game are npo bloody use to Rovers at all. So what if we'd sell every ticket. The club's just being practical and having read many of the posts on the subject I don't blame them. Some of the stuff posted on here sounds like a throwback to the hooligan days.

OH so the rovers fans that would turn up would be no good to us but the bumley fans would? im confused.

[only2garners]

I hope it is possible to seat all the Darwen End ST holders for the 'other 4' games.

I think the club would be amazed and delighted if we got to the position of worrying whether we can accommodate the Darwen End season tickets in the rest of the ground - even if we sell all the bottom tier it would mean we had more than 23,000 season ticket holders. Even at these prices that's unlikely.

I have no problem with charging then £25 a ticket for the other 4 games (although I don't know if that's been agreed yet?), but I can see merit both for fans and the club in packaging them as a block of 4 at a price less than £100. There is still time to do that as the first of the 4 will be Burnley in October. I'll raise it as a possible item for the Fans Forum in August.

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

Possibly too late - but when ST sales for JW have calmed down - and we have a better idea of availability. Maybe a mini season ticket offered to Darwen End ST holders only - to cover the 4 matches not covered by the 15 ? Maybe at a reduced combined price of £80 ?

If the club announced this - it may help further boost ticket sales in the DE. Club would gain additional publicity, and also be able to claim that they listen to fans concerns.

A combined price of £230 would seem fair - given that 4 of the matches are in the more expensive part of the ground.

Now all I needs is JW's number

[1864roverite]

OH so the rovers fans that would turn up would be no good to us but the bumley fans would? im confused.

Abbey, get youself in a barrell and pee in the corner if your confused pal

How anyone can criticise BRFC for the ticket initiative is beyond belief.

They have done what they have done and it has been on offer for EACH and EVERY one of us. Some will win and some will lose, You cannot achieve a 100% happy success rate with the offer.

I am certain that not everyone will be pleased or satisfied, people will moan, people will smile, people will groan and groan.

Make the best of it. Take the low cost offer of a Darwen End ST, you will be guaranteed a ticket for the big games verus Burnley, Manure and Liverpool plus A N Other. I am certain that those taking the cheap offer will also not have to pay the full market price for a ticket for the four games.

The season is nigh upon us, lets look forward to it and lets all get behind the club.