[Archived] Blackburn Rovers Transfer Topic

[dr_awol]

This might sound harsh, but its as if the board wants us to go down. The board has got alot of explaining to do, because year in and year out, its the same old story. We sell a player for a huge fee, and cant use the money to buy another quality player. Its insane and no wonder the managers complain about not being able to take this club any further.

i think its more like they dont want to buy another grabbi or davis, with enough work we can find a benni's and samba's each year we just need the right manager which we have.

[Eddie]

Watching the goings on at other Prem clubs (in particular NUFC and Pompey) is strengthening the boards stance and weakening yours baz.

Watching what has happened at our club makes the board look like morons.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

The Samba to City story explains why we are still looking at centre halves. I'm not mad on Ben Haim, he's not mobile enough for me. Onouha's had a good season for City since they moved him to centre half but he'll probably be the one to lose out if they do sign Samba. Maybe he'd be worth a punt, he's a better bet than Ben Haim.

[Guest benmaxwell]

If the club wants to cut wages and do the logical thing and make best use of what we have before making signings, then surely the best thing to do is to get rid of the following and bring in younger more reliable players.

- David Dunn (unreliable injury wise)

- Roque Santa Cruz (high wages and moaner)

- Benni McCarthy (high wages, has been inconsistent and ageing)

- Vince Grella (injury plagued and inconsistent)

- Zurab Khizanishvili (doesn't play often enough)

- Steven Reid (decision has to be made, injuries at £20k's wages should add up to his departure this summer)

- Jason Brown (wants out)

- Paul Gallagher (not good enough)

- Maceo Rigters (see above)

This would take a large chunk out the wages and leave room for additions to be made. We'd need to do allot of work but it would take a huge chunk out the wage structure...

[deryck guyler's spoon]

The Burnley story in the People is worth reading.

They have a smaller transfer budget than Rovers? That will take some doing.

[dingles staying down 4ever]

Watching what has happened at our club makes the board look like morons.

Please explain why trying to run a club within its own means and cutting season ticket prices to try and reverse a decreasing fan base making the board look like morons.

We'd all like tthe club to spend millions but other clubs have tried and failed.

[G Somerset Rover]

There is definitely chatter about Chimbonda coming - I know another club asked about him and were told that. Spurs still appear to be the most keen on Roque. That has a long way to run, mind you.

Arry is down as some kind of genius by the media and yet I can't help but feel that he makes some awful signings. Why bring Chimbonda back in January and then look to ship him out already? They already had about 5 right backs before he rejoined!

[joey_big_nose]

If the club wants to cut wages and do the logical thing and make best use of what we have before making signings, then surely the best thing to do is to get rid of the following and bring in younger more reliable players.

- David Dunn (unreliable injury wise)

- Roque Santa Cruz (high wages and moaner)

- Benni McCarthy (high wages, has been inconsistent and ageing)

- Vince Grella (injury plagued and inconsistent)

- Zurab Khizanishvili (doesn't play often enough)

- Steven Reid (decision has to be made, injuries at £20k's wages should add up to his departure this summer)

- Jason Brown (wants out)

- Paul Gallagher (not good enough)

- Maceo Rigters (see above)

This would take a large chunk out the wages and leave room for additions to be made. We'd need to do allot of work but it would take a huge chunk out the wage structure...

Um, how do you sell injury plagued players? Who on earth would want Reid or Dunn? McCarthy will laways have buyers (not sure how much we would get for him though) and Zurab is a attractive to buyers.

It will be hard to shift Rigters. We won't sell Grella a year after outlaying 4 million on him.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

If the club wants to cut wages and do the logical thing and make best use of what we have before making signings, then surely the best thing to do is to get rid of the following and bring in younger more reliable players.

- David Dunn (unreliable injury wise)

- Roque Santa Cruz (high wages and moaner)

- Benni McCarthy (high wages, has been inconsistent and ageing)

- Vince Grella (injury plagued and inconsistent)

- Zurab Khizanishvili (doesn't play often enough)

- Steven Reid (decision has to be made, injuries at £20k's wages should add up to his departure this summer)

- Jason Brown (wants out)

- Paul Gallagher (not good enough)

- Maceo Rigters (see above)

This would take a large chunk out the wages and leave room for additions to be made. We'd need to do allot of work but it would take a huge chunk out the wage structure...

Unless any of those are out of contract there's not a lot we can do. We can't make them leave. Who' going to give us a fee for the majority of them ? We're stuck with them.

[alexanders]

Do we know who Sam and the scouts were watching last night? Are they going to games in Spain to day as well?

4 or 5 relegation candidates playing today. Might be able to snap up some quality players from them if they go down.

[Guest benmaxwell]

- David Dunn - Saleable

- Roque Santa Cruz - Saleable

- Benni McCarthy - Saleable

- Vince Grella - Return to Italy maybe? Saleable...

- Zurab Khizanishvili - In talks with Galatasaray?

- Steven Reid - Down to the last 12 months of his contract... Loan out if fit... If not, release if financially viable...

- Jason Brown - Saleable

- Paul Gallagher - Very saleable after last year in Championship...

- Maceo Rigters - Place on transfer list, and loan out if nobody buys till 2011 when his contract expires...

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

- David Dunn - Saleable

- Roque Santa Cruz - Saleable

- Benni McCarthy - Saleable

- Vince Grella - Return to Italy maybe? Saleable...

- Zurab Khizanishvili - In talks with Galatasaray?

- Steven Reid - Down to the last 12 months of his contract... Loan out if fit... If not, release if financially viable...

- Jason Brown - Saleable

- Paul Gallagher - Very saleable after last year in Championship...

- Maceo Rigters - Place on transfer list, and loan out if nobody buys till 2011 when his contract expires...

It's not like in the old days- if they don't want to leave they just stay put. The players hold all the aces, they can't be sold against their wishes anymore. I can see Brown and Gallagher wanting to leave. Santa and Benny could be moved on. After that ?

[joey_big_nose]

- David Dunn - Saleable

- Vince Grella - Return to Italy maybe? Saleable...

To who precisely? Bearing in mind anyone who buys them would have to match their wages.

[nicko]

So History is repeating itself - yet again. When will the board ever learn?

There's no point blaming the board...they are working within the cash that they have available and could win next season.

The problem is that Rovers finished below where they planned to be last season and lost out on placing cash.

It shows the delicate balance that you have to go through every season.

You still pay big wages in comparison to most. It's a question of getting rid of some wages and being careful about who you bring in.

No manager wants to hear that, but it's reality.

There is NO outside funding, so you have to balance the books.

[philipl]

They have a smaller transfer budget than Rovers? That will take some doing.

Burnley budget £15m, Rovers wages budget £40m.

When even Rovers have one player being costing £3.5m per year (£4m when you add ERNI), I can only repeat that transfer budgets are now less than half the story.

Total cost of ownership and residual values are key.

Sorry to bang on about Grella, but buying him is a stand out piece of bad business from last summer.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

There's no point blaming the board...they are working within the cash that they have available and could win next season.

The problem is that Rovers finished below where they planned to be last season and lost out on placing cash.

It shows the delicate balance that you have to go through every season.

You still pay big wages in comparison to most. It's a question of getting rid of some wages and being careful about who you bring in.

No manager wants to hear that, but it's reality.

There is NO outside funding, so you have to balance the books.

Agreed. It doesn't make pleasant reading but it's got to be faced up to. If your income drops at home and you keep going to the pub every night there's going to be tears one day. That's what my wife keeps telling me anyway !

[Kelbo]

Burnley budget £15m, Rovers wages budget £40m.

Sorry to bang on about Grella, but buying him is a stand out piece of bad business from last summer.

I think you may eat your words next season, with the right player with him he will be immense for Rovers, even Bergs first season for Rovers was poor and he was quality, it can take time to adjust and I honestly have likened his game to that of Batty at his best, watch and then prove me wrong but I honestly, fitness prevailing, think he will prove me right !!

[Eddie]

Please explain why trying to run a club within its own means and cutting season ticket prices to try and reverse a decreasing fan base making the board look like morons.

We'd all like tthe club to spend millions but other clubs have tried and failed.

Cutting season ticket prices isn't what I'm talking about. The reality of owning a sports team, of any sort, is the vast majority aren't capable of sorting themselves, let alone being profitable. Now we are trying to do what 95% of the sports world can't do, with the exceptions to this rule being side like United who are global franchises, with a huge number of supporters, with a massive intake in sponsorship and merchandising. The board can't expect this club to be self-supportive, certainly not until it is stabilized. Perhaps once we have a core group of players capable of doing fairly well in the premiership then we can start trying to reduce costs and live within our means wherever possible, but at the moment that just isn't the situation we are in. We have had several years where this was sort of the case, with the group under Souness and then under Hughes being a somewhat stable and capable bunch. The board is rolling the dice on the future of the club as relegation would kill off any possibility of the club being financially sound. There are times when owners need to invest, it is part of their job, the responsibility of owning something that thousands of people feel is their own.

[Kelbo]

Cutting season ticket prices isn't what I'm talking about. The reality of owning a sports team, of any sort, is the vast majority aren't capable of sorting themselves, let alone being profitable. Now we are trying to do what 95% of the sports world can't do, with the exceptions to this rule being side like United who are global franchises, with a huge number of supporters, with a massive intake in sponsorship and merchandising. The board can't expect this club to be self-supportive, certainly not until it is stabilized. Perhaps once we have a core group of players capable of doing fairly well in the premiership then we can start trying to reduce costs and live within our means wherever possible, but at the moment that just isn't the situation we are in. We have had several years where this was sort of the case, with the group under Souness and then under Hughes being a somewhat stable and capable bunch. The board is rolling the dice on the future of the club as relegation would kill off any possibility of the club being financially sound. There are times when owners need to invest, it is part of their job, the responsibility of owning something that thousands of people feel is their own.

But the board are not the owners, they are working under instructions and doing pretty well I may add considering the financial constraints they have, dont worry, Sam will be fighting his corner and he is a very shrewd guy!

[Eddie]

I highly doubt that the instructions are that under no circumstances should they consider investing money in the club to ensure premiership survival.

[roversmad95]

Sam's contract 'issue' should be sorted this week.

In fact the whole paper is quite good this week.

nothing to do with you having a few pieces in there? lol....

[unleaded]

Nicko seeing as Blackburn Rovers are going cold over Marseille defender Renato Civelli because of his wage demands i can see the Chimonda transfer getting more attractive by the minute....The Guy was OUTSTANDING in Center Defence for Sunderland V Rovers and is also a very good Right Back........... .and the most important thing Sam likes provan Premier League Players.....

[nicko]

nothing to do with you having a few pieces in there? lol....

Everything to do with it...

Nicko seeing as Blackburn Rovers are going cold over Marseille defender Renato Civelli because of his wage demands i can see the Chimonda transfer getting more attractive by the minute....The Guy was OUTSTANDING in Center Defence for Sunderland V Rovers and is also a very good Right Back........... .and the most important thing Sam likes provan Premier League Players.....

I could see a way where both Civelli and Chimbonda could be signed...Ooijer has to be replaced and Zurab probably. Two versatile players in, two out...reasonable.

Might be top-heavy with defenders with Givet in too...that would be my only concern if you have to keep the numbers tight.

Got to stress Chimbonda is only at the 'discussion' stage right now. A lot of work to be done there yet.

[Kelbo]

I highly doubt that the instructions are that under no circumstances should they consider investing money in the club to ensure premiership survival.

No, but to sensibly cut ones cloth accordingly and not go down the route of Leeds, Southampton etc

[modes98]

Will his wage demands be high though? He doesn't strike me as a guy that will happily take a wage cut. He was pretty ruthless to Wigan as well.

Average player who thinks he's something special.