[Archived] Blackburn Rovers Transfer Topic

[Hughesy]

I don't really understand the criticism of Benni here. Sure, the number of goals he has scored this season isn't very impressive, but he was our top goalscorer. 2 out of 3 seasons so far.

I can't remember Benni missing many chances this season, he never does. If we create chances then he takes them, it is as simple as that. Our team just wasn't good enough.

Spot on Eddie - Benni takes his chances, Roberts misses them!

[Clitherover]

Saw something about Rovers and Viera on a LET billboard this morning?

Anyone?

edit.. i must start getting my hands in my pockets and actually buy the paper.

[Hughesy]

Mystery Striker?

[unluckymorton]

Saw something about Rovers and Viera on a LET billboard this morning?

Anyone?

edit.. i must start getting my hands in my pockets and actually buy the paper.

I've just looked on LET website, nothing there about Viera. Go back to the shop and buy the paper!

[Wild Irish Rover]

Mystery Striker?

Hardly

Full name Patrick Donalé Vieira

Date of birth 23 June 1976 (1976-06-23) (age 32)

Place of birth Dakar, Senegal

Height 1.91 m (6 ft 3 in)[1]

Playing position Defensive Midfielder

[Clitherover]

I've just looked on LET website, nothing there about Viera. Go back to the shop and buy the paper!

right am on it..

no one dare leak this info before me or i'll be ###### off!!

[unluckymorton]

right am on it..

no one dare leak this info before me or i'll be ###### off!!

Nice one Ben, I'm in Manchester so I'll struggle getting to the shop before you....

[Hughesy]

OOps I didnt read it proper - Was thinking it said Vieri - Doh!

[PAFELL]

Saw something about Rovers and Viera on a LET billboard this morning?

Anyone?

edit.. i must start getting my hands in my pockets and actually buy the paper.

Too old now for Rovers - plus having to reduce the wage bill at Rovers.

[modes98]

Santa Cruz has had one good year at Blackburn, was nothing special at his previous club before Blackburn and has a bad attitude to boot. Keep him lads.

Carew is a very good targetman but not in the same bracket as a fit Santa Cruz. Santa Cruz has the all round game, Carew is a bit of a clumsy player that doesn't have the best ball control and ability to create a special goal.

Having said that, they are both injury prone.

I wouldn't say Santa has a "bas attitude" he is just trying to make a move, which is exactly what your ex-hero Garry Barry did for the past year.

Mystery Striker?

Viera is a Defensive Midfielder! Vieri is a striker!

[Hughesy]

I know Modes, already mentioned it above.

[Clitherover]

Steven Nzonzi French youth international midfielder, dubbed the NEW Patrick Viera.

Yesterdays news by the looks of it

Also (maybe mentioned before) Greek 16 year old Goalkeeper Nikos Giannakopoulos is on the verge of signing.

[thenodrog]

I don't really understand the criticism of Benni here. Sure, the number of goals he has scored this season isn't very impressive, but he was our top goalscorer. If people are so keen on selling him purely because of the number of goals he has scored then surely they are also advocating selling Roberts and Santa Cruz? I can't remember Benni missing many chances this season, he never does. If we create chances then he takes them, it is as simple as that. Our team just wasn't good enough to consistently create two or three chances a game and that wasn't because our strikers weren't good enough. Without a decent midfield our strikers will struggle.

http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/2497323/

Where is our great striker when Samba fought for this goal and when he should have been sprinting in for the knock down? Outside the box spectating thats what... and that lack of effort is precisely why his goals have dried up. These are the things that managers and staff will analyse first thing Mon am. Compare BM's position there to his position when he scored v Lpool from MGP's cross after Toogs completely bamboozled Stevie G... just had to get that last bit in.

[Eddie]

So what is your position on Santa Cruz and Roberts then? They must be really crap.

[unluckymorton]

http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/2497323/

Where is our great striker when Samba fought for this goal and when Benny should have been sprinting in for the knock down? Outside the box spectating thats what... and that lack of effort is precisely why his goals have dried up. These are the things that managers and staff will analyse first thing Mon am. Compare his position there to his position when he scored v Lpool from MGP's cross after Toogs completely bamboozled Stevie G... just had to get that last bit in.

"Toogs completely bamboozled Stevie G"

I got a tear in my eye then...

[Brfcrule1]

P.Valery wrote

Totally agree. Best post i've seen in a while. Someone else posted stats of McCarthy and Roberts over a set period a few pages back. On Benni's stats they included games, goals and assists. On Roberts it was only games and goals. I meant to comment on it then but for one reason and another i didn't get round to it. But the comparison was ridiculous. Robert' game is about more than goals. His sheer presence creates openings for others. Don't get me wrong, i'm not his biggest fan. But when i hear people talking about McCarthy's natural ability it makes me laugh. He is lazy and has a belief in his own ability far over and above that which is accurate. Roberts is a grafter and gives his all for the cause. He may never be a superstar but he is honest and hardworking. I'd have got rid of McCarthy a long time ago. I don't know the stats, but i reckon even Dickov had a better return than 9 goals from open play in 2 seasons.

it was me who wrote those statistics the reason I only posted Roberts goals and games played was because it was not mentioned on Wikipedia his assists. You mention Dickov had a better return from 9 goals in 2 games so are you advocating we sign him up as in your opinion he was a better striker?. Roberts maybe a grafter and work hard for the team but if we had gone down due to the fact he missed 1 open goal and numerous other one-on-one opportunities would you still be as complimentary?. i don't think so ok maybe Benni is at times lazy and questions over his fitness have been raised fairly but at least he knows where the net is! and scores the majority of chances. Without him and Samba working so hard at the end of the season we would be down so deserves a lot of praise for that. Ok so Benni has missed pens but so has Roberts. You also have to consider a lot of the time he was overlooked by that clown "The Guvnor" where anyone with a brain cell could have figured out RSC was having a poor season and would have changed it around rather than hoping for the best. Also you have to remember mentioned here before Benni is by far the better striker as he has a champions league winners medal and Roberts has a championship runners-up medal also Benni would have had a better goal return if he had some good service from midfield as his first season in the premier league showed.

Rant over!

[unluckymorton]

Steven Nzonzi French youth international midfielder, dubbed the NEW Patrick Viera.

Yesterdays news by the looks of it

Also (maybe mentioned before) Greek 16 year old Goalkeeper Nikos Giannakopoulos is on the verge of signing.

Good work Ben.

The young Greek keeper was on a thread yesterday, seems a promising signing.

If this Nzozi lad in dubbed the new Viera, he'll get sent of every time he play's for us!

I don't like it when players are 'dubbed the new' it always seems to back fire.

[PAFELL]

So what is your position on Santa Cruz and Roberts then? They must be really crap.

Santa Cruz is a good player - not excellent. Would be happy for anybody to pay £20mill for him. But to me he is not worth £20mill. The way I look at it is if RSC was playing for another team and Rovers had loads of dosh, would I be happy if Rovers paid £20mill for him - I would have to say NO.

When Rovers bought him, that in my view is his true valuation. He has only had ONE good season in the prem. I accept that it is his all round play and not just his goal scoring that makes him a good player. It is very easy looking at a player with Rovers tinted glasses on - we all make that mistake at times - but reality is harder to face up too.

I would rather have James Beatie than Roberts. Roberts work rate is good, but not a 'reliable finisher'. Beatie is a better finisher than Roberts - Rovers missed out on that one in my view.

[Clitherover]

Good work Ben.

The young Greek keeper was on a thread yesterday, seems a promising signing.

If this Nzozi lad in dubbed the new Viera, he'll get sent of every time he play's for us!

I don't like it when players are 'dubbed the new' it always seems to back fire.

''Nzonzi was part of the Amiens side that was relegated from Ligue 2''

''Could cost somewhere in the region of 500'000 euros'' whats that £400k ish?

[unluckymorton]

Santa Cruz is a good player - not excellent. Would be happy for anybody to pay £20mill for him. But to me he is not worth £20mill. The way I look at it is if RSC was playing for another team and Rovers had loads of dosh, would I be happy if Rovers paid £20mill for him - I would have to say NO.

When Rovers bought him, that in my view is his true valuation. He has only had ONE good season in the prem. I accept that it is his all round play and not just his goal scoring that makes him a good player. It is very easy looking at a player with Rovers tinted glasses on - we all make that mistake at times - but reality is harder to face up too.

I would rather have James Beatie than Roberts. Roberts work rate is good, but not a 'reliable finisher'. Beatie is a better finisher than Roberts - Rovers missed out on that one in my view.

Big Sam is hanging on for £20m as it is written into his contract, the same contract that Hughes was involve in negotiating. Rovers are perfectly in their rights to demand what is written into the contract.

However, I totally agree that he is not worth that sort of money. If we have seen 3 solid season like the first season then maybe so and clubs would be queueing up for him, but when we signed him it was a gamble as he had spent such a lot of time on the treatment table in previous seasons. No doubt he has the ability but I'm not sure he has a full season in him.

I'd snap anybody's hands off at anything over £10m. He obviously doesn't want to play for the club so ship him out.

[thenodrog]

So what is your position on Santa Cruz and Roberts then? They must be really crap.

Don't be silly. You really do go over the top at times eddie. I never ever said BM is crap. Quite the opposite he is the most talented player in the club now that Tugay has gone. It's a fitness and attitude problem with him and that is the frustrating thing. For whatever reason he has not been motivated for some time.

Without motivation he is a luxury that we cannot afford to have around on the basis of performances and squad pschology. A move would likley see him turn it on for a year or so and we'd be left tearing our hair out but unless someone can light a fire under him at Brockhall then that is the only alternative.

How come you have such a limited understanding of football?

[unluckymorton]

''Nzonzi was part of the Amiens side that was relegated from Ligue 2''

''Could cost somewhere in the region of 500'000 euros'' whats that £400k ish?

It's as good as £500k at the current climate.

[Hughesy]

Whether we get £10m 15m or £20m - either way its great business for a player that cost us just £3.5m

The French lad sounds promising - only young and 6ft 2, and described as box to box - Eddie have you seen him play?

[socngill]

Just to add to the Benni and Roberts row. Benni may have only scored 9 goals from open play in the last two season, but the guy hardly played this season, and when he did towards the end of the season he was banging them in. last season, when he did play, he was playing in a deeper role to allow Cruz to play as the front man. He's never going to score a huge amount from that position in our team.

And the lazy tag just makes me laugh. He does track back and get involved, it's just some people expect him to be doing it all the time. You can't be in the box and scoring goals, if you are on the half way line.

No way we could replace his quality, not in a million years. Selling him would be a stupid thing to do.

[Hi Mack]

The LET this morning have reported us being linked with "the New Viera"

My god how many new Vieras have there been? remember Omar Konde?

Not sure who it is though were being linked with.

(Now know it Nzoni(sp?) just seen a previous post)