[Archived] Fifa 10

[Rover down South]

What are peoples opinions of Blackburn on the game? Are they realistic to real life players? Any stand out performer?

Emerton is very good I have found, scored a cracking goal with him.

[Hughesy]

Im having problems connecting to people to start a game - think its a port opening thing.....

Anyone got any ideas? Im on 02, but they have just informed me the tech support charge £15!!! Robbin @#/?s!

[Guest Kamy100]

This game is great online.

However it sucks offline, it bug ridden and full of AI cheating, on world class I played as Real Madrid v Bolton, just to see if there was a difference between the teams, there wasn't, infact Bolton played like they were Real Madrid, this coupled with the bugs below (plus many more) makes me think how the hell Reviewers were able to give this game 90% plus:

1) The Manager Mode freezing bug (where you can’t progress without your console locking up) is still there. One person has suffered from this and noticed that in his last save before this occurs, one of his strikers has no name and next to the form icon it says “-10118”.

2) It has been reported that transfers “lock” altogether after a certain amount of seasons (being linked to a disc problem).

3) All teams below the Premier League have their tactics set to all-70s. Applies to other leagues/teams as well, see Australia, Brazil and others.

4) All assists are credited to the goalkeeper.

5) Players you loan out can be sold by the clubs you loaned them to.

6) Newly signed players vanish from your squad with no warning. They just disappear, and then if you look them up they’re playing for someone else.

7) When trying to sign a second loan player, sometimes I am told by the game that I already have two – when I only have one.

8) When signing two loan players, I then tried to (permanently) sign two free agents, and I’m told I can’t sign them because I “already have two players on loan”.

9) 90% of matches in England are played at night in the rain regardless of stadium choice. I’ve yet to see a match played in the daytime with sunny weather.

10) Seasonal changes don’t seem to affect the weather. So in England, in the summer, you will see rain and even snow with no games being played in sunshine.

11) Signing players is practically impossible, even when offering maximum wages and maximum bonuses, even if you can get their interest level up to 85%+. (Even if you start out as a manager with no reputation, you should be able to sign really poor players with no reputation who aren’t getting first-team football elsewhere.)

12) Signing your own players is just as difficult, regardless of how well the team is doing. They refuse to sign even when you offer the maximum wages allowed. But if you wait until the end of the season, you get the same screen you get in FIFA 09 where you can just tick a box to re-sign a player and they will sign for peanuts! Strange one!

13) The board sack you even if you occupy first place. You can expect to be fired at the mid-way point of the season if you lose a cup game, even if you’re in the top four of the league, especially in the Premier League. Even in the lower leagues, I’ve seen situations where games are won 6-0 every week for months and suddenly you’re fired the moment you draw 1-1.

14) When playing against teams who are better than you, your board always expect you to beat that team. I mostly play as a League 1 team, and if I’m beaten by a Championship or Premier League side I get a board comment that states I was “expected to win the game”, and occasionally you will get the sack for this. This may be because teams aren’t recognised in their correct division; for example, when losing against a team from the league above you, you will occasionally get a message that says you should have done better against “lower league opposition”.

15) The assistant manager, even when turned off, will sometimes swap your players around.

16) The assistant manager AI is terrible. It will choose players with no fitness (10%-20%) to play out of position, over players with 100% fitness who can play in that position. See below for more info.

17) The AI management of other clubs is terrible. Examples; Chelsea play Terry at LB with Cole at CB in the same match, Man Utd play Vidic and Ferdinand as LB/RB with Brown and Evra as CBs in the same match, Giggs gets played at LB occasionally, etc. etc. etc.

18) The effect of form is far too severe. It makes your team go up/down by a whole star rating within a few games, so with a 3 star team you can yoyo to 2 star and weeks later 4 star.

19) The form system seems to be totally random. I can win 2-3 games in a row by 2-3 goals and the form will get worse. A striker can score six goals in a game and his form will DROP!

20) I’ve seen one injury in two seasons; Marcel promised this lack of injuries – and especially this lack of SERIOUS injuries – was fixed for FIFA 10. This is simply not true.

21) Injuries don’t last for a long enough period of time. For example, a hamstring injury should keep a player out for a month – in FIFA 10 it’s a week.

22) When playing in the snow the ball used is white, which is incredibly difficult to see, and you can’t change the ball yourself.

23) Only 5 benched substitutes are allowed in FIFA 10 below the Premier League. All English league and cup competitions now allow 7 substitutes in reality.

24) Friendly games should allow 12 substitutes on the bench (and also you should be allowed to use all 12). Currently it’s restricted to 7 on the bench (with only 3 substitutions allowed).

25) Friendly games include matches against teams in your own division. This doesn’t usually happen in reality.

26) FA Cup games are all played at night when they’re only ever played in the daytime now, including the final.

27) The shortlist was supposed to allow up to 20 players to be stored, but seems to only allow 10 players.

28) The overall rating of a player changes before/during the game. So if one of my strikers has an overall rating of 83 (including his form), when I pause the game and go to Team Management his rating can drop by 10+. What value is actually being used by the game? The pre-game rating or the paused-game rating?

29) Form should never affect physical attributes. For example, a striker who is on hot form wouldn’t see his strength increase.

30) Playing as a League 1/2 team, you have literally no fit players left after 3-5 games of the season. I don’t care how bad your fitness coach is, a group of professional players would have enough players fit to start a game after 3-5 games of the season. (You’re forced to spend £1m to upgrade your fitness coach to a realistic level.)

31) The league table that shows up at the start of each game is never correct (same as FIFA 09). It always shows you in 6th-9th position regardless of whether you’re in the top half or the bottom half of the table, and your opponents are shown in an incorrect position as well.

32) When simming games instead of playing them, two things to note. Firstly, the level of your fitness coach isn’t taken into account, so the players lose 25%-75% more fitness than they should. Secondly, when simming, you actually get to see some injuries! Plus they last for a decent period of time (e.g. metacarpal fracture, player out for four weeks)!

33) When you have a player injured, the game forces you to remove him from your team before going to the pre-game screen. You don't want to remove him from your first-choice team, you want to remove him at the pre-match team management screen, like in FIFA 09. But now you can't do that.

34) Often you are not told why a player has refused to sign for you. No explanation is given on the Negotiation History screen for these players and it seems that they are never permitted to sign for your club, for no apparent reason. You never get an explanation for the affected players.

35) Sometimes when trying to sign a player they’ll say e.g. they get a “bad vibe” from your current players. Try to sign them again next week and they’ll sign for you. Doesn’t make much sense.

36) You can list a player for sale/loan who is garbage, e.g. 42 overall when the rest of the players in your squad/division are 60+, and instantly you get offers from the top teams in your division/country for him. Sometimes even top-flight teams from other countries make an offer; they have no possible reason to loan in a player who is literally twice as bad as any other player they have. It seems that every player you ever list you MUST receive an offer for, even if they are terrible, and it’s always a good team that has no need for a poor player which shows interest.

37) As a manager with a reputation level of half-a-star, you sometimes get comments from the board that “a manager of your calibre should be performing better”.

38) You lose respect with the board when losing a game on penalties. You should be given the same increase/decrease you would be given for a draw rather than a win/loss in these circumstances.

39) The leader of the assist list seems to be the player who keeps the most clean sheets.

40) Players who are substituted show no ratings at full-time. So if my striker gets a hat-trick and I substitute him, his rating is blank after the game. (Yet substituted players can receive Man of the Match awards, so a rating must be getting calculated by the game? I presume they’re just not being displayed?)

41) Goals/assists that occur in cup competitions, e.g. the FA Cup, aren’t counted in the player’s statistics.

42) When scouted players are presented to you for purchase, they are always said to play on the opposite side to their preferred foot. For example, a left winger will always be shown to prefer their right foot. Yet if you buy the player, most of the time, they will actually prefer the appropriate foot.

43) Some players will sign for a club and then the next week you’ll get a notice on the transfers screen that they’ve signed for that same club. Again.

44) Some players will sign for a club and then the next week they’ll have signed for somebody else!

45) When searching for players their form ratings are displayed, rather than their actual ratings. This means you have no idea what the player’s actual ratings are.

46) When selling a player, the whole squad gets moved around. Player roles are also moved around.

47) When buying a player, they are given a squad number already in use, and it messes up the squad numbers for the entire team. Why can’t they be given a number that isn’t in use?

48) Stadia never fill up with people. I can play a Champions League match against a five-star team and all stands will still have large empty sections.

49) Player search parameters constantly reset when searching for a player. So if you search for e.g. a defender rated 60-70, then you want to search for a midfielder with the same rating, the parameters have been reset meaning you have to input them again.

50) Occasionally the wrong stadium picture is displayed pre-game. For example when playing at the Emirates a picture of (what looked to be) the training ground was displayed.

51) Creating a player (not a Virtual Pro) to sign in your Manager Mode career seems incredibly difficult/buggy. If you create a player and assign him to the free agents pool, the game freezes. If you assign him to a national team, he doesn’t show up as a free agent in Manager Mode. If you assign him to a national team and THEN move him to the free agents pool, you won’t be able to find him anywhere but in the “Created Players” section and you’ll see that his assigned team is referred to as something like "team1932as12309" – you can’t then find this team/player in Manager Mode to sign the player.

52) Commentary gaffes happen every 1-2 games, e.g. “5 minutes to go and they lead 1-0” when it’s 1-1, “I have to say he’s on one of the worst runs of his career” when he’s already scored in the match you’re playing, etc. etc. etc. and also, when playing as your Virtual Pro, you find the commentary refers to you scoring your 20th goal every time you score once you’ve reached that point. So for example when you score your 21st goal the commentator will say it’s your 20th, etc. (not sure if this only applies to Manager Mode or other modes as well).

NEW ONES:

53) People playing as League Two teams (e.g. Bury) are reporting that they are not entered into the English league cup competition.

After FIFA 08 and FIFA 09 which were good games, EA has gone back to the days of releasing bug ridden/rushed games. THIS GAME NEEDS A PATCH!

[Cocker]

At least you can play it. Mine still hasnt turned up :-(

[Hughesy]

The patch should follow soon - most games are full of bugs at first - give them time.

I just need to sort my router out!!

[Cocker]

I am not 100% but you might want to try this:-

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[4ever&ever]

Has the mailing issue with shopto been sorted Cocker?

I've pre-ordered Operation Flash point 2 with them (£28) and it says that they have it instock, but I'm concerned about them not being able to post it for release day.

Doing quite well on Fifa again, 6 wins 0 losses and 1 draw (he wouldn't play extra time) I enjoy the online play a lot more at the start before people work out all the little tricks and cheats etc.

[Cocker]

Has the mailing issue with shopto been sorted Cocker?

What you must remember here is that Shopto are not having any mailing issue. They sent Fifa last Wednesday but its being held up by Royal Mail who are on strike. This is happening for other retailers too and not just shopto.

[Anti-Dingle-Brigade]

My friend has a game destroying bug with his, the computer resets his entire team to default players and positions before every match even when he's changed everything around.

[Tim Southampton Rover]

Any idea when the patch will be released? That's a hell of a lot of problems for a game which is meant to be the best yet. Even the last FIFA didn't have that many problems.

I was hoping my game would arrive today however after reading that huge list, I'm hoping the patch comes out before I get the game.

[Guest Kamy100]

There has been no confirmation about a new patch, I think that they are compiling a list of bugs and then start work on it. It will take at least 6 weeks because after doing a patch they have to send it for testing, then send it to Microsoft/Sony for approval, plus looking at the ever increasing list of bugs there is no way that they are going to be able to patch all of them.

Like I said earlier the game online/against human opponents is great, however offline/against CPU it has real problems. For someone like me who loves playing offline (Manager Mode) this is a huge problem.

[benhben]

Im seriously struggling online! Was fairly good at fifa 09 and would open teams up at will with good passing.

This year cant find any space at all and cant control my defenders. Everyone else i play had a solid back line and midfield all tightly packed and playing high pressure, who hound you off the ball 2 or 3 players at a time really quickly. When Im defending there are big gaps everywhere, and I cant control my players fast enough to cover the space. Whilst the opposition seem extremey quick to get back and defend, mine just amble back!

Also alot of people I play seem to have 5 or 6 players piling into my box when they have the ball all pointing their arms where they want the ball. When I have the ball there is hardly any off the ball movement even when playing ultra offensive!

Dont know if there are some new tactics or something on fifa 10 which everyone is using, but finding this version really frustrating!

[Hughesy]

To be honest Tim - if you plan on playing online or in the normal tournaments against CPU then there is very little bugs - all seem to be in the manager mode I think.

The game this year is much harder, and im loving it for that! Ben - do you not have more than 1 player closing down at a time?

I found City to be pretty poor to use on this version despite the much stronger squad - Arsenal however are quality!

Anyone come accross any quality 4 star teams that I can humble some 5 star players with? I played BOrdeux (4 n half) and they looked very good.

1 thing is annoying me - My keeper doesnt stay on his line! Anyway we can make him stay? He always drifts off and then gets lobbed!

[Hughesy]

25) Friendly games include matches against teams in your own division. This doesn’t usually happen in reality.

26) FA Cup games are all played at night when they’re only ever played in the daytime now, including the final.

48) Stadia never fill up with people. I can play a Champions League match against a five-star team and all stands will still have large empty sections.

Talk about being picky! Some of them bugs most people wouldnt even notice - think someone has been trying to faults whenever they can.

25 - What about the Asia trophy etc that is played? Quite a few now face each other in pre-season.

26 - Way too picky! I wouldnt even notice

48 - Credit Crunch - So very realistic!!

[benhben]

The game this year is much harder, and im loving it for that! Ben - do you not have more than 1 player closing down at a time?

No, my players seem far too slow to close the opposition down. When I try this they just pass in around me. Everyone else seems to be able to harass my payers much more aggressively that I can, and keep the midfield and defence so tight I can get any forward passes through. I on the other hand have massive gaps everywhere, which are easily exploited.

[Guest Kamy100]

I agree Hughesy, but to some people these small things are important, just because they are not important to us doesn't mean they should be ignored.

The general consensous does seem to be leaning towards the AI being broken in this game, for example set difficulty to 'pro' and let AI through onto your goal, the majority of time they will run straight into your goalie. EA have to fix this as believe or not there are people out there who play exclusively offline. Indication is that EA are going to look at these bugs, no way all of them will be fixed as development for Fifa 11 begins in November.

[super_arran]

To be honest Tim - if you plan on playing online or in the normal tournaments against CPU then there is very little bugs - all seem to be in the manager mode I think.

The game this year is much harder, and im loving it for that! Ben - do you not have more than 1 player closing down at a time?

I found City to be pretty poor to use on this version despite the much stronger squad - Arsenal however are quality!

Anyone come accross any quality 4 star teams that I can humble some 5 star players with? I played BOrdeux (4 n half) and they looked very good.

1 thing is annoying me - My keeper doesnt stay on his line! Anyway we can make him stay? He always drifts off and then gets lobbed!

you can tab the Y button twice (or on playstation the triangle button) to keep the keeper on the line/ close to it.

[dopper69]

4 star to humble 5 star?

The mighty Rovers of course. I can't use anyone else online - it feels wrong

[grizfoot]

Don't know if it's just me but I don't get all this FIFA-loving that seems to go on. Never been a fan of FIFA and always preferred PES (although thier latest effort wasn't their best) however the old PES series for PS2 are fantastic and for me the best footballing games ever in terms of fun and gameplay, they were awesome.

The newer games have better graphics yes, they are probably more realistic as well but for me there no where near as fun. PES 6 was the ultimately football game, you could actually DRIBBLE PAST PLAYERS without being tackled or pushed off the ball (puts the supposed new FIFA dribble system to shame) and score wonder goals from anywhere!

I say 'more realistic' but some of the things in the new FIFA 10 are anything but realistic. Players relatively strengthen doesn't seem to play too much importance in the game I've seen Samba somehow out-muscled by Wright-Phillips for example. The own-goals on it are also rather pathetic, goalkeepers seemingly don't react even when the ball is going very slowly right next to them!

It is playable, but not really enjoyable for me. Majority of the games I play usually end up being really scrappy and ending 0-0 or 1-0 either way. The game is too defensively oriented for me, the only time I ever tend to concede a goal is either through stupid mistake/deflection or counter-attacks. When I'm defending with everyone behind the ball I very rarely concede as it's often far to easy to just push players off the ball or intercept passes.

[dazmaz]

for anyone on the ps3 having problems with being kicked out of psn constantly while playing FIFA i have a fix, all you need to do is unsync your psn account with your ea sports world account, to do this you need to log onto eafootballworld.com click my profile, then edit where the gameface beta is and change your default Persona.and your done no more random kicks when playing online or single player.

[Hughesy]

you could actually DRIBBLE PAST PLAYERS without being tackled or pushed off the ball (puts the supposed new FIFA dribble system to shame) and score wonder goals from anywhere!

I say 'more realistic' but some of the things in the new FIFA 10 are anything but realistic. Players relatively strengthen doesn't seem to [/size][/size]play too much importance in the game I've seen Samba somehow out-muscled by Wright-Phillips for example.

It is playable, but not really enjoyable for me. Majority of the games I play usually end up being really scrappy and ending 0-0 or 1-0 either way.

I agree on the strength issue - it needs to be more relative - although If that happened people would just choose 'big' teams and outmuscle you with that.

As for dribble and Wonder goals - it is possible, it just takes alot more skill that pressing a button and hoping for just anything.

As for 0-0 or 1-0, you must play very defensive then. I won one game 7-0 last night, another finished 4-2 and another 2-2.

[bubblerrovers]

I have to say i thought the game would be so much better than it it, i would go as far as too say don't buy it. Little things annoy me, whenever you score the player keeps running into the back of the net, you'd expect better. Also Andy Gray rude remarks about Blackburn arn't really called for.

[Hughesy]

I have to say i thought the game would be so much better than it it, i would go as far as too say don't buy it. Little things annoy me, whenever you score the player keeps running into the back of the net, you'd expect better. Also Andy Gray rude remarks about Blackburn arn't really called for.

When you score you have control of the player - so you must be running into the goal? I usually run to the corner and do the Cahill celebration!

[ihtd]

After playing through 3 seasons of Manager Mode, I take back anything good I said about the game. This game is totally awful offline, I loved this game at the start but after a week of playing it, I am beginning to hate it. Online it is excellent, but I like to play offline as well when I'm not feeling competitive enough for online but all of the bugs are & have ruined the game. There is no way a game should be allowed to be released with so many bugs in it. They could have released a BETA back in August and let 1000 gamers play it and find all the bugs prior to release, but no EA are too good to do that I am only going to bother to play this online and I'll porbably buy Pro Evo now to play offline. It is a real shame tbh, as I thought this would be the year EA really cracked the poor preconception that Pro Evo fanboys had of them, but if anything they have reinforced the poor opinion that many gamers have of them. SHAME!!!

If anyone wants a game online my PSN is brfc1987, I'm online most nights and I'll only be playing Fifa online now. Would be nice to have a competitive and completed league this year

[Ricky]

My friend has a game destroying bug with his, the computer resets his entire team to default players and positions before every match even when he's changed everything around.

Is this when he plays online?

My team always reverts back to the default when I play online. Is there a way of keeping my settings or is it just something I have to live with.