EnglishChris Posted November 26, 2009 Posted November 26, 2009 I seem to have a feeling that the players might start to do better with him in charge like we did last year with Big Sam and would mean them staying up.
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Backroom Tom Posted November 26, 2009 Backroom Posted November 26, 2009 I think things may kick off at Everton soon, apparently a lot of the fans want shut of Kenwright now.
EnglishChris Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 Well he's been trying to find a buyer for the club for some time but has had no luck as of yet so I'm not sure he'll leave unless he does find one.
tcj_jones Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 Moyes may not have had the same kind of backing as numerous Spurs managers, nor was much as O'Neil at Villa and Bruce at Sunderland, but he's still had BIG backing in the transfer market. I don't know where this myth about Moyes working on a shoe string originate from. The reason they are where they are at the moment is that half the squad are out injured. Any team with as many as five first team regulars out is going to struggle. It's not Kenwright's fault.
EnglishChris Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 True, it happened a lot at West Ham when Curbishley was there half of his first team players were out injured a lot.
mickbrown Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 True, it happened a lot at West Ham when Curbishley was there half of his first team players were out injured a lot. Curbishley's signed a bunch of injury prone players though, to my knowledge Moyes hasn't.
EnglishChris Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 They wern't all injury prone though when they signed for the club were they?
mickbrown Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 They wern't all injury prone though when they signed for the club were they? Dyer, Upson, Parker, Ljungberg and Bellamy were his signings all for big money all on massive wages and all with injury prone records.
EnglishChris Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 Moyes may not have had the same kind of backing as numerous Spurs managers, nor was much as O'Neil at Villa and Bruce at Sunderland, but he's still had BIG backing in the transfer market. I don't know where this myth about Moyes working on a shoe string originate from. He doesn't do badly with what he's got right now, he's had some money but not much over the years just look at this signings from there current team :- Leighton Baines 6 million Joseph Yobo 4 million Phil Jagielka 4 Million Tim Cahill 1.5 Million Phil Neville 3.5 Million Steven Pienaar 2 Million Yakubu 11.25 million Tim Howard 3 million Marouane Fellaini 15 million Mikel Arteta 2 million There's only 2 players over 10 million the rest fall under 5 million and then there's Dan Gosling, Leon Osman and Jack Rodwell who are part of the youth team. To have gotten them to finish were they have been doing for the last few seasons on decent size but still small budget is really good.
sparkspakespoke Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 He doesn't do badly with what he's got right now, he's had some money but not much over the years just look at this signings from there current team :- Leighton Baines 6 million Joseph Yobo 4 million Phil Jagielka 4 Million Tim Cahill 1.5 Million Phil Neville 3.5 Million Steven Pienaar 2 Million Yakubu 11.25 million Tim Howard 3 million Marouane Fellaini 15 million Mikel Arteta 2 million There's only 2 players over 10 million the rest fall under 5 million and then there's Dan Gosling, Leon Osman and Jack Rodwell who are part of the youth team. To have gotten them to finish were they have been doing for the last few seasons on decent size but still small budget is really good. He has done very well, I still think the job Hughes did here was a bigger achivement though. Moyes has never had to sell to buy rwally and Hughes did, I wish we'd seen Sparky with half that budget, we would have been knocking on the door for the Champions League.
EnglishChris Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 Yeah i agree with you there, although he did have to sell Lescott to Man City even though he didn't want to well guess that was down to him wanting to go in the end.
Backroom DE. Posted November 27, 2009 Backroom Posted November 27, 2009 He doesn't do badly with what he's got right now, he's had some money but not much over the years just look at this signings from there current team :- Leighton Baines 6 million Joseph Yobo 4 million Phil Jagielka 4 Million Tim Cahill 1.5 Million Phil Neville 3.5 Million Steven Pienaar 2 Million Yakubu 11.25 million Tim Howard 3 million Marouane Fellaini 15 million Mikel Arteta 2 million There's only 2 players over 10 million the rest fall under 5 million and then there's Dan Gosling, Leon Osman and Jack Rodwell who are part of the youth team. To have gotten them to finish were they have been doing for the last few seasons on decent size but still small budget is really good. Nearly 50M outgoings is still hardly a 'shoestring budget'. They recouped a fair chunk on Lescott, though.
EnglishChris Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 Pundits probably refer to it as a shoe string budget because teams like Chelski, Man Utd and now City spend that amount on just two players.
Stuart Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 Pundits probably refer to it as a shoe string budget because teams like Chelski, Man Utd and now City spend that amount on just two players. In that case, what type of budget are we on? One of those plastic things at the end of the shoe string?
mellison24 Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 Yup were on a aglets budget How do you know what they are called? Have you read that book that tells you the names (that we don't know) of everyday things? I got it last xmas, but it's now in the attic.....
EnglishChris Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 Uh no not really i used this really amazing thing called the Internet to find the answer to be honest, you should try it is really use full
mellison24 Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 Uh no not really i used this really amazing thing called the Internet to find the answer to be honest, you should try it is really use full *my head.....desk....repeated banging*
LeChuck Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 Nearly 50M outgoings is still hardly a 'shoestring budget'. They recouped a fair chunk on Lescott, though. The sale of Rooney for £30 million also kickstarted most of that.
thenodrog Posted November 28, 2009 Posted November 28, 2009 Curbishley's signed a bunch of injury prone players though, to my knowledge Moyes hasn't. Alex Ferguson might disagree re: Saha.
Backroom DE. Posted November 28, 2009 Backroom Posted November 28, 2009 The sale of Rooney for £30 million also kickstarted most of that. From what I recall the £25M they got for Rooney was used largely to pay off some major debts they had. Weren't they close to administration at that time?
tcj_jones Posted November 28, 2009 Posted November 28, 2009 Van Persie out for 4-5 months Unless Arsenal buy a top striker in January (which they won't) then I feel their title race is now over. A strike force of Bendtner (also currently injured), Eduardo (just returning from multiple injury problems) and Vela (with barely any Premier League experience) is not good enough to win the league with. Furthermore, if Chelsea win tomorrow then that will be three victories against the rest of the top four out of three and the title as good as theirs. It's frustrating, because I don't think the rest have what it takes to win the league this year and I wanted an exciting title race.
Billy Castell Posted November 28, 2009 Posted November 28, 2009 I agree with TCJ, Arsenal don't have the forwards to cope with the loss of Van Poncy. Surprising that Wenger let Adebiyor go without a real replacement given the injury problems Robin always has. Perhaps they might go for a Huntlaar or suchlike, or some silky 20 year old people rate as a potential star. I wish he'd buy Roberts for £8m after hearing this but I'm more likely to win the grand national running backwards.
John Posted November 28, 2009 Posted November 28, 2009 Both Hull and Bolton getting results today that we would have been happy with.
Stuart Posted November 28, 2009 Posted November 28, 2009 Both Hull and Bolton getting results today that we would have been happy with. Maybe but I wouldn't swap our current situation with Hull's or Bolton's.
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