[Archived] Other Pl Happenings 2009/10

[thenodrog]

I find it strange when some have suggested we should be doing better with the players we have. As stated above, a way of looking at it could be how many other Premier League clubs will be in for our players this summer? Samba/Robinson possibly - some of our young players still have a way to go, but may court some interest (depending on their progress/improvement).

IMO, our midfield/strikers are fairly average. Can't keep looking back but in recent years there was no doubting the quality of Bentley/Bellamy however we don't have anyone near that class. Dunn, on his day and when fit, comes close.

Also, some crave and threaten to go on suicide watch if we don't play more attacking or 4-4-2. Our set of players generally lack creativity and we seem to struggle to pass/keep hold of the football. Granted, the manager will always favour a direct game but these are prerequisites if you want to play a more 'attacking' game.

Maybe I am being too harsh, however, a reality check is needed sometimes.

If the players are ordinary then the manager must be in great demand.

[Roberto Policano]

Benitez is starting to annoy Juventus,if he doesn't hurry up and resign he may not get the job.

[Billy Castell]

I hope he stays with the red bin dippers, or goes to Real Madrid.

[LeftWinger]

Thought this was interesting - Luis Boa Morte and Keiron Dyer on 70k a week. McCarthy on 2m a year:

WEST HAM UNITED - FIRST TEAM SQUAD 2009-2010 - CONTRACTS & SALARIES

No Player Position Weekly Yearly Joined Fee Notes

Gianfranco Zola Manager £36,300 £1,887,600 Sep 2008 N/A Contract Sep 2008 - June 2011; Ext Jun 2013 (@Apr 2009)

Steve Clark Assist Man £24,200 £1,258,400 Sep 2008 N/A Contract Sep 2008 - June 2011; Ext Jun 2013 (@Apr 2009)

Kevin Keen Head Coach £12,100 £629,200 Jul 2002 N/A Contract Oct 2006 - June 2009; Ext Jun 2011 (@Sep 2008)

Kevin Hitchcock Coach (GK) £3,000 £156,000 Mar 2010 N/A Contract March - June 2010 (@Mar 2010)

1 Robert Green Goalkeeper £30,000 £1,560,000 Aug 2006 £2,000,000 Contract Aug 2006 - Jun 2010; Ext Jun 2011 (@Aug 2008)

4 Danny Gabbidon Defender £50,000 £2,600,000 Jul 2005 £1,500,000 Contract Aug 2005 - Jun 2008; Ext Jun 2010 (@Aug 2007)

7 Kieron Dyer Midfield £70,000 £3,640,000 Aug 2007 £6,000,000 Contract Aug 2007 - Jun 2011

8 Scott Parker Midfield £70,000 £3,640,000 Jun 2007 £7,000,000 Contract Aug 2007 - Jun 2012

9 Mido (Ahmed Hossam) Forward £1,000 £52,000 Feb 2010 Loan Loan Feb 2010 - Jun 2010

10 Guillermo Franco Forward £20,000 £1,040,000 Sep 2009 Loan Contract Sep 2009 - Jun 2010

11 Ilan Araújo Dall'Igna F'wrd £19,231 £1,000,000 Feb 2010 Loan Loan Feb 2010 - Jun 2010

12 Carlton Cole Forward £50,000 £2,600,000 Jul 2006 £1,000,000 Contract Jul 2006 - Jun 2010; Ext Jun 2013 (@Nov 2008)

13 Luís Boa Morte Midfield £70,000 £3,640,000 Jan 2007 £5,000,000 Contract Jan 2007 - Jun 2010

14 Radoslav Kovác Midfield £20,000 £1,040,000 Jan 2009 £3,250,000 Contract Aug 2009 - Jun 2012

15 Matthew Upson Defender £70,000 £3,640,000 Jan 2007 £7,500,000 Contract Jan 2007 - Jun 2011

16 Mark Noble Midfield £20,000 £1,040,000 Jul 2000 Academy (2000) Debut (Aug 2004) (Contract Jul 2009 - Jun 2013) (@Apr 2009)

17 Benni McCarthy Forward £38,462 £2,000,000 Feb 2010 £2,500,000 Contract Feb 2010 - June 2012

18 Jonathan Spector Defender £20,000 £1,040,000 Jun 2006 £500,000 Contract Aug 2006 - Jun 2010

20 Julien Faubert Midfield £30,000 £1,560,000 Jun 2007 £6,100,000 Contract Jul 2007 - Jun 2012

21 Valon Behrami Midfield £30,000 £1,560,000 Jul 2008 £5,000,000 Contract Jul 2008 - Jul 2013

22 Manuel da Costa Defender £20,000 £1,040,000 Aug 2009 £2,000,000 Contract Aug 2008 - Jun 2012

23 Hérita Ilunga Defender £20,000 £1,040,000 Sep 2008 Loan / Fee Loan Aug 2008 - Jun 2009; Contract Jul 2009 - Jun 2013

28 Péter Kurucz Goalkeeper £5,000 £260,000 Feb 2009 Loan / Fee Loan Jul 2008 - Jun 2009; Contract Jul 2009 - Jun 2014

29 Marek Stech Goalkeeper £3,000 £156,000 Jul 2006 Academy (2006) Debut (Sub only) (Contract Jul 2006 - Jun 2010)

30 James Tomkins Defender £4,000 £208,000 Jul 2005 Academy (2005) Debut (Mar 2008) (Contract Jul 2009 - Jun 2013) (@Apr 2009)

31 Jack Collison Midfield £2,000 £104,000 Jul 2005 Academy (2005) Debut (Jan 2008) (Contract Jul 2008 - Jun 2013)

32 Alessandro Diamanti Forward £30,000 £1,560,000 Aug 2009 £6,000,000 Contract Aug 2009 - Jun 2014

33 Fabio Daprelà Defender £10,000 £520,000 Jul 2009 £500,000 Contract Jul 2009 - Jun 2014

34 Oliver Lee Midfield £400 £20,800 Jul 2009 Academy (2009) Debut (Sub only) (Contract Jul 2009 - Jun 2010) (@Apr 2009)

36 Anthony Edgar Midfield £400 £20,800 Jul 2004 Academy (2004) Debut (Jan 2010) (Contract Jul 2009 - Jun 2010) (@Apr 2009)

41 Zavon Hines Forward £400 £20,800 Jul 2006 Academy (2006) Debut (Aug 2008) (Contract Jul 2009 - Jun 2010) (@Apr 2009)

45 Jordan Spence Defender £400 £20,800 Jul 2004 Academy (2004) Debut (N/A) (Contract Jul 2006 - Jun 2010)

46 Junior Stanislas Midfield £1,500 £78,000 Jul 2000 Academy (2000) Debut (Mar 2009) (Contract Jul 2009 - Jun 2014) (@Apr 2009)

£705,792 £36,701,200 £55,850,000

£187,831 £9,767,200

£182,100 £9,469,200 Released (March): 35 Josh Payne, 44 Bondz N’Gala, Nick Barrett, Davide Ferrari,

£178,462 £9,280,000 Peter Loveday, Danny Kearns, Conor Okus, Jack Lampe.

PLAYERS ON LOAN

19 Freddie Sears Forward £4,000 £208,000 Jul 2000 Academy (2000) Debut (Mar 2008) (Contract Jul 2008 - Jun 2013) (@Feb 2008)

24 Frank Nouble Forward £10,000 £520,000 Jul 2009 £500,000 Contract Jul 2009 - Jun 2014

Hólmar Örn Eyjólfsson Defender £400 £20,800 Jul 2008 Academy (2008) Debut (N/A) ~ On loan to Roeselare, Belguim (to May 2010)

Matt Fry Defender £400 £20,800 Jul 2001 Academy (2001) Debut (N/A) ~ On loan to Gillingham (to May 2010)

Out of contract - June 2010

Out of contract - June 2011

Out of contract - June 2012

WHUFC-FIXTURES-2009-2010.xls/28.03.2010 WHU SQUAD 2009-201

[tcj_jones]

Can I ask where that's from? Because I seriously doubt its accuracy.

There is absolutely no way, in a million years, that Boa Morte is on £70k.

[modes98]

I'm sure thats not far off. West Ham went a bit mental, paying a very injury prone Dyer the same is enough to make you want to shoot yourself. Gabbidon was highly rated but £50k is way to high, imagine what Anton Ferdinand was on. Then there is poor old Mido on £52k a year, how does he survive on such a low sum.

[mickbrown]

I'm sure thats not far off. West Ham went a bit mental, paying a very injury prone Dyer the same is enough to make you want to shoot yourself. Gabbidon was highly rated but £50k is way to high, imagine what Anton Ferdinand was on. Then there is poor old Mido on £52k a year, how does he survive on such a low sum.

I am sure some are not far off but I seriously doubt Gabbidon, Disamanti's and Boa Morte's contracts are right.

[LeChuck]

Ilan was a bit of a steal on a free transfer and <£20k a week.

If it's true, of course.

[thenodrog]

Can I ask where that's from? Because I seriously doubt its accuracy.

There is absolutely no way, in a million years, that Boa Morte is on £70k.

Why? Lucas Neill famously was at that time. It's why he rejected Liverpool. The eggman was chucking money around like a madman. There's a few left too, if my memory serves me correctly I'd wager the likes of Bellamy, Llundberg, Bowyer and Ashton would have been on similar too. It's why they are in the sh1t now. To quote the bible ..... As ye sow so shall ye reap. Oh well how sad, never mind.

[DeadlyDirk]

I remember Ljunberg was offered about 3m to tear up his contract to save them a few quid which he accepted, so he must have been on more than 3m to start with so yep another who must have been on 70k+ per week. I think the figures above are pretty accurate.

Anyway enough of West Ham, anyone got any preference on tonight's game? I can't stand Spuds or Citeh and don't really care who wins, I've persuaded myself to slightly favour Spuds as I think if Citeh get into the Champions League they'll be hard to stop over the next few years with their finances, the main thing working against them signing the top players right now is the fact that they are not in the Champions League, let's keep it that way.

Hopefully Spuds can go out in the qualifiers

[Amo]

I'm surprised no one's mentioned Harry Redknapp's attack on Man. City for "bullying" them out of Craig Bellamy. Honest 'Arry is hardly one for preaching business ethics, now is he?

[The Rover of Finland]

King´s goal should have been allowed! Bennett has just robbed Spurs.

[DeadlyDirk]

I know it was briefly mentioned but I don't know why the FA let City bring in another goalkeeper, they had one already and should have had to give a youth player the chance on the bench.

If they decided that they had to let them bring one in then it should only have been to sit on the bench while Nielsen plays. I think it's very unfair that they allow them to bring in a new first choice keeper at this stage of the season. Nobody forced them to loan out Hart, it's their own fault.

Why couldn't we bring in a new forward on loan when we had to stick Samba up there due to injuries? (Although he did end up being picked ahead of Benni )

If they literally had no goalkeeper it would be a different story but that's not the case, Nielsen although unproven is their 3rd choice goalkeeper and also an international, that's what squads are for. No reason why a youth player couldn't deputise on the bench, plenty of other teams including ourselves have had to include players from the U18's on the bench this year, Pompey even had them starting

[Tim Southampton Rover]

If they decided that they had to let them bring one in then it should only have been to sit on the bench while Nielsen plays.

I totally agree with this point. Surely the whole point of City getting another keeper was due to them not having enough cover. I think whoever gave City the go ahead for the emergency have bottled it due to City pushing for a Champions League place.

[Amo]

I thought it was obvious why - The Premier League couldn't be seen to let one of their biggest teams play with a Faroe second-stringer.

[Tim Southampton Rover]

Ledley King is proving tonight that he's probably the best English defender. Fabio get him on that plane!

[Tim Southampton Rover]

Tottenham look like they're going to qualify for the Champions League.

Goodbye Mancini!

[thenodrog]

Stoke 1-0 up at Fulham. Best result for us I think if it stays that way. Hopefully with defeats for Fulham at Arsenal and Stoke at Man U on Sun that would likely see a 'gettable' draw at Villa leave us in 10th place.

[Ste B]

Motherwell Hibs 6 all !!!

Not something you see very much at all

[Tim Southampton Rover]

Well done Spurs! 4th place guaranteed.

The city chairman does not look happy!

[Kelbo]

Well done Spurs! 4th place guaranteed.

The city chairman does not look happy!

Arry, Redknapp is a twitchy headed T***, hate him and he is corrupt bugger!

[ffan]

Tottenham deserved it.

They'll probably be knocked out in the qualifiers though. Especially because the qualifiers have been made very hard.

[1864roverite]

You have to give Spurs due credit, they deserve the 4th slot in the Champs League, City just join the list of has beens !!!

£350m for a 5th placed spot ? Hardly money well spent is it?

Did Bellamy wave goodbye and seal his move to Spurs with the high five with Harry ?

The look on the City owners face - PRICELESS or £350m

[Bobby G]

Hohohohohoho at City.

Stick it to them where it hurts!

[LeChuck]

Ledley King is proving tonight that he's probably the best English defender. Fabio get him on that plane!

He can't play more than one game a week though, I don't see how he can go. A shame because he is brilliant. Dawson makes a good alternative though, he's very good.

Pleased that Tottenham are going into the Champions League next year. They're got an English manager, lots of British players (5 of the starting front 6 were English, 7 out of 11 in total) and haven't got a sugar daddy like City, although I appreciate they've had significant investment.

Still can't say I like them at all, but they're relatively likeable compared to the other 'big' clubs.

They'll probably be knocked out in the qualifiers though. Especially because the qualifiers have been made very hard.

They can still finish third yet, they have Burnley left and Arsenal are on a terrible run.

Stoke 1-0 up at Fulham. Best result for us I think if it stays that way. Hopefully with defeats for Fulham at Arsenal and Stoke at Man U on Sun that would likely see a 'gettable' draw at Villa leave us in 10th place.

Just had a look at the table and fixtures, looks very promising.

Contradicting what I just said above here, but I think a point will be adequate to finish tenth.