[Archived] Other Pl Happenings 2009/10

[Steve Moss]

9 Birmingham 37 -8 50

10 Stoke City 37 -10 47

11 Blackburn 37 -15 47

12 Fulham 37 -3 46

13 Sunderland 37 -7 44

Arsenal v. Fulham

Aston Villa v. Rovers

Bolton v. Birmingham

ManU v. Stoke

Wolves v. Sunderland

If I, as a relative newbie interpret the table correctly, 9th is theoretically possible IF Bolton beat Birmingham by 7+ (Coyle prove your genius!), AND the Rovers beat Villa, AND Stoke lose or draw to ManU. Slim odds.

Rovers can take 10th (Happy Days!) if: 1) the Rovers beat Villa, and Stoke lose or draw to ManU; or, 2) Rovers tie Villa, and Stoke loses to ManU, and Arsenal beat or draw Fulham; 3) Rovers lose by 1 to Villa, but Fulham lose to Arsenal, and Sunderland loses or draws to the Wolves, and ManU beats Stoke by 5+.

Did I miss any combination as to what other teams would have to do for the Rovers to take 10th? Personally, I don't think options 1 and 2 are all that unrealistic.

[Manc Rover]

10th is realistic but 9th is a pipe dream.

9 Birmingham 37 -8 50

10 Stoke City 37 -10 47

11 Blackburn 37 -15 47

12 Fulham 37 -3 46

13 Sunderland 37 -7 44

Arsenal v. Fulham

Aston Villa v. Rovers

Bolton v. Birmingham

ManU v. Stoke

Wolves v. Sunderland

If I, as a relative newbie interpret the table correctly, 9th is theoretically possible IF Bolton beat Birmingham by 7+ (Coyle prove your genius!), AND the Rovers beat Villa, AND Stoke lose or draw to ManU. Slim odds.

Rovers can take 10th (Happy Days!) if: 1) the Rovers beat Villa, and Stoke lose or draw to ManU; or, 2) Rovers tie Villa, and Stoke loses to ManU, and Arsenal beat or draw Fulham; 3) Rovers lose by 1 to Villa, but Fulham lose to Arsenal, and Sunderland loses or draws to the Wolves, and ManU beats Stoke by 5+.

Did I miss any combination as to what other teams would have to do for the Rovers to take 10th? Personally, I don't think options 1 and 2 are all that unrealistic.

[thenodrog]

At the moment he looks a much safer bet than Rio. Id definetly take Terry, Rio and Dawson and id now take King as the 4th centre back. Much better than Upson

And that (plus a paucity of keepers and poor fullbacks) in a nutshell is why we'll be home well before the final.

btw anybody else notice Wayne Bridge turn his back on the cross for Spurs goal?? World Cup class my arse.

That's not fair though. If you loan a keeper out with ample back-up at the club you shouldn't be punished for injuries that happen 8/9 months later. You wouldn't think it was unfair if it happened to Rovers, so you have to be fair to City.

Eh? I rem Simon Garner in goal for Rovers. It looked like someone had doubled the size of our goals!

[Hughesy]

10th is realistic but 9th is a pipe dream.

I agree. 10th is realistic....but its a hard point we need to pick up.

I think 11th is already ours as a minimum - however 10th would cap off a very good season for us.

10th & a Semi Final after last season is fantastic! It would give us around £2.3m extra in placings money too, which can then be added to the Benni money, & extra TV money we have received!!

[Bobby G]

I can see us finishing 12th, which is slightly better than our budgeting. Maybe Villa will be disheartened and we can nick a point to finish 11th.

[Balwer]

I can see us finishing 12th, which is slightly better than our budgeting. Maybe Villa will be disheartened and we can nick a point to finish 11th.

If we nick the draw then to finish eleventh do you either see Stoke beating/drawing with Man U or Fulham beating Arsenal? Both are less likely than us getting a draw IMO.

A win will get us 10th.

A draw should get us 10th.

A loss will likely get us 11th, maybe 12th.

[only2garners]

One negative from last night's result is that Villa can now finish 5th if they beat us and City lose at West Ham, so Villa have something to play for. If City had not lost they would have had nothing to play for.

[thenodrog]

If we nick the draw then to finish eleventh do you either see Stoke beating/drawing with Man U or Fulham beating Arsenal? Both are less likely than us getting a draw IMO.

A win will get us 10th.

A draw should get us 10th.

A loss will likely get us 11th, maybe 12th.

Don't forget if we lose and Sunderland win at Wolves then they go above us too on gd.

[RibbleValleyRover]

Portsmouth debt goes up to £138m

[Hughesy]

Portsmouth debt goes up to £138m

Most expecting a figure between 20-25p in the pound.

This money will most likely be allocated over a five-year period with the club's 400 plus "trade creditors" - local businesses, charities and other suppliers - at the back of the queue behind so-called "football creditors", who must be repaid in full under football's rules.

This group includes clubs still owed over £17m in transfer fees by Portsmouth, and current and former players who are owed almost £5m in bonuses, wages and image rights payments.

Pompey's current owner Balram Chainrai will also get his outstanding £14.2m loan repaid in full but his three predecessors - Sacha Gaydamak, Sulaiman Al-Fahim and Ali Al-Faraj - will have to accept the same reduced rations on offer to the non-football, unsecured creditors.

Prominent among this group is Her Majesty's Revenue & Customs (HMRC), which is owed £17.1m in taxes and National Insurance contributions.

So does that mean?!

£36.2m owed – 100% over 5 years = £7.24m per year

100m approx – 20p in the pound - £20m over 5 years = £4m per year - so a total of £11.25m

[Muddboy]

Just as an aside, Benni is West Ham's fourth highest earner on £38,000 PW.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/westham/7683270/West-Hams-wage-bill-in-full.html

Unbelievable.

[Hughesy]

PL turn down Fulhams request to move thier final game

Good on the premier league for refusing this one.....hopefully this will ensure Fulham play a much weakened side at Arsenal & gaurantee 1 less team wont be over-taking us......

Just as an aside, Benni is West Ham's fourth highest earner on £38,000 PW.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/westham/7683270/West-Hams-wage-bill-in-full.html

Unbelievable.

You have to laugh - Kieron Dyer – £83,000

[Muddboy]

You have to laugh - Kieron Dyer – £83,000

Yep, two crocks on a combined £121,000 PW!

Thank god Rovers are a sensible club.

[brian_gallagher85]

You have to laugh - Kieron Dyer – £83,000

Is that his wages or weekly hospital bill?

[super_arran]

The whole list.

No Player Position Weekly Yearly Joined Fee Notes

Gianfranco Zola Manager £36,300 £1,887,600 Sep 2008 N/A Contract Sep 2008 - June 2011; Ext Jun 2013 (@Apr 2009)

Steve Clark Assist Man £24,200 £1,258,400 Sep 2008 N/A Contract Sep 2008 - June 2011; Ext Jun 2013 (@Apr 2009)

Kevin Keen Head Coach £12,100 £629,200 Jul 2002 N/A Contract Oct 2006 - June 2009; Ext Jun 2011 (@Sep 2008)

Kevin Hitchcock Coach (GK) £3,000 £156,000 Mar 2010 N/A Contract March - June 2010 (@Mar 2010)

1 Robert Green Goalkeeper £30,000 £1,560,000 Aug 2006 £2,000,000 Contract Aug 2006 - Jun 2010; Ext Jun 2011 (@Aug 2008)

4 Danny Gabbidon Defender £50,000 £2,600,000 Jul 2005 £1,500,000 Contract Aug 2005 - Jun 2008; Ext Jun 2010 (@Aug 2007)

7 Kieron Dyer Midfield £70,000 £3,640,000 Aug 2007 £6,000,000 Contract Aug 2007 - Jun 2011

8 Scott Parker Midfield £70,000 £3,640,000 Jun 2007 £7,000,000 Contract Aug 2007 - Jun 2012

9 Mido (Ahmed Hossam) Forward £1,000 £52,000 Feb 2010 Loan Loan Feb 2010 - Jun 2010

10 Guillermo Franco Forward £20,000 £1,040,000 Sep 2009 Loan Contract Sep 2009 - Jun 2010

11 Ilan Araújo Dall'Igna Forward £19,231 £1,000,000 Feb 2010 Loan Loan Feb 2010 - Jun 2010

12 Carlton Cole Forward £50,000 £2,600,000 Jul 2006 £1,000,000 Contract Jul 2006 - Jun 2010; Ext Jun 2013 (@Nov 2008)

13 Luís Boa Morte Midfield £70,000 £3,640,000 Jan 2007 £5,000,000 Contract Jan 2007 - Jun 2010

14 Radoslav Kovác Midfield £20,000 £1,040,000 Jan 2009 £3,250,000 Contract Aug 2009 - Jun 2012

15 Matthew Upson Defender £70,000 £3,640,000 Jan 2007 £7,500,000 Contract Jan 2007 - Jun 2011

16 Mark Noble Midfield £20,000 £1,040,000 Jul 2000 Academy (2000) Debut (Aug 2004) (Contract Jul 2009 - Jun 2013) (@Apr 2009)

17 Benni McCarthy Forward £38,462 £2,000,000 Feb 2010 £2,500,000 Contract Feb 2010 - June 2012

18 Jonathan Spector Defender £20,000 £1,040,000 Jun 2006 £500,000 Contract Aug 2006 - Jun 2010

20 Julien Faubert Midfield £30,000 £1,560,000 Jun 2007 £6,100,000 Contract Jul 2007 - Jun 2012

21 Valon Behrami Midfield £30,000 £1,560,000 Jul 2008 £5,000,000 Contract Jul 2008 - Jul 2013

22 Manuel da Costa Defender £20,000 £1,040,000 Aug 2009 £2,000,000 Contract Aug 2008 - Jun 2012

23 Hérita Ilunga Defender £20,000 £1,040,000 Sep 2008 Loan / Fee Loan Aug 2008 - Jun 2009; Contract Jul 2009 - Jun 2013

28 Péter Kurucz Goalkeeper £5,000 £260,000 Feb 2009 Loan / Fee Loan Jul 2008 - Jun 2009; Contract Jul 2009 - Jun 2014

29 Marek Stech Goalkeeper £3,000 £156,000 Jul 2006 Academy (2006) Debut (Sub only) (Contract Jul 2006 - Jun 2010)

30 James Tomkins Defender £4,000 £208,000 Jul 2005 Academy (2005) Debut (Mar 2008) (Contract Jul 2009 - Jun 2013) (@Apr 2009)

31 Jack Collison Midfield £2,000 £104,000 Jul 2005 Academy (2005) Debut (Jan 2008) (Contract Jul 2008 - Jun 2013)

32 Alessandro Diamanti Forward £30,000 £1,560,000 Aug 2009 £6,000,000 Contract Aug 2009 - Jun 2014

33 Fabio Daprelà Defender £10,000 £520,000 Jul 2009 £500,000 Contract Jul 2009 - Jun 2014

34 Oliver Lee Midfield £400 £20,800 Jul 2009 Academy (2009) Debut (Sub only) (Contract Jul 2009 - Jun 2010) (@Apr 2009)

36 Anthony Edgar Midfield £400 £20,800 Jul 2004 Academy (2004) Debut (Jan 2010) (Contract Jul 2009 - Jun 2010) (@Apr 2009)

41 Zavon Hines Forward £400 £20,800 Jul 2006 Academy (2006) Debut (Aug 2008) (Contract Jul 2009 - Jun 2010) (@Apr 2009)

45 Jordan Spence Defender £400 £20,800 Jul 2004 Academy (2004) Debut (N/A) (Contract Jul 2006 - Jun 2010)

46 Junior Stanislas Midfield £1,500 £78,000 Jul 2000 Academy (2000) Debut (Mar 2009) (Contract Jul 2009 - Jun 2014) (@Apr 2009)

£705,792 £36,701,200 £55,850,000

£187,831 £9,767,200

£182,100 £9,469,200 Released (March): 35 Josh Payne, 44 Bondz NGala, Nick Barrett, Davide Ferrari,

£178,462 £9,280,000 Peter Loveday, Danny Kearns, Conor Okus, Jack Lampe.

PLAYERS ON LOAN

19 Freddie Sears Forward £4,000 £208,000 Jul 2000 Academy (2000) Debut (Mar 2008) (Contract Jul 2008 - Jun 2013) (@Feb 2008)

24 Frank Nouble Forward £10,000 £520,000 Jul 2009 £500,000 Contract Jul 2009 - Jun 2014

Hólmar Örn Eyjólfsson Defender £400 £20,800 Jul 2008 Academy (2008) Debut (N/A) ~ On loan to Roeselare, Belguim (to May 2010)

Matt Fry Defender £400 £20,800 Jul 2001 Academy (2001) Debut (N/A) ~ On loan to Gillingham (to May 2010)

[Hughesy]

That list doesn't match to the article figures

[super_arran]

That list doesn't match to the article figures

IMO I doubt someone would be arsed to put a detailed list together like the one above without actual meaning.

Whereas a short article could be cooked up in half an hour.

You could say the article doesn't match to the list figures

[tcj_jones]

There's just no way that list is accurate. Immediately, I can point out Gabbidon, Dyer, and Boa Morte who simply cannot be right. I also have big reservations over Parker, Upson, and Cole earning that much. I'd also be surprised if McCarthy were on ust shy of £40k.

These estimations are almost always hugely over-blown.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

That was a bad result for us at Eastlands. Now they need more players and have access to a lot more dosh we can expect 'Arry knocking at the door with bids for Samba for sure, Givet maybe, Jones and Nzonzi outside possibilties.

[tcj_jones]

They've already got King, Dawson, Bassong for CB, not to mention Kaboul.

I'd also say they have bigger fish to fry than the likes of N'Zonzi, Givet, or ust about anybody in our squad.

[The Rover of Finland]

They've already got King, Dawson, Bassong for CB, not to mention Kaboul.

I'd also say they have bigger fish to fry than the likes of N'Zonzi, Givet, or ust about anybody in our squad.

And Woodgate.

[Hughesy]

And Woodgate.

And Sandro has already been signed ahead of the summer.

[LeChuck]

I think Sandro is a midfielder.

Spurs have a huge squad already, they'll probably go for quality over quantity, and none of our players fit that bracket at their level.

[The Rover of Finland]

I think Sandro is a midfielder.

Spurs have a huge squad already, they'll probably go for quality over quantity, and none of our players fit that bracket at their level.

Wonder if Keane is going back there. Harry has had a huge budget but he has also done great job there. Last summer they did what Spurs normally don´t do. They didn´t buy much and had faith on their current squad. It was a good decision.

[thenodrog]

There's just no way that list is accurate. Immediately, I can point out Gabbidon, Dyer, and Boa Morte who simply cannot be right. I also have big reservations over Parker, Upson, and Cole earning that much. I'd also be surprised if McCarthy were on ust shy of £40k.

These estimations are almost always hugely over-blown.

Lets see... should I believe your incredulity or the Telegraph reporter? It's a tough one.

anyway you've already asked this and I've responded here..

http://www.brfcs.co.uk/mb/index.php/topic/21240-other-pl-happenings-200910/page__view__findpost__p__906033

One things for sure tcj if that list is correct they will not be able to offload the big useless earners nor likely have the funds to fight off suitors for the likes of Carlton Cole and Noble etc. There are some good quality and affordable players further down that list.