tony gale's mic Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 From what I've seen do far this season Villa, Everton & Liverpool don't really have much of an edge on us at all, obviously it's very early days though. Liverpool have Torres and Gerrard, Everton have Arteta, Cahill and Saha along with the likes of Fellaini - those players will lift those teams above us reasonably comfortably. We don't have any big individual performers who can turn games, that's the difference. Both teams always start seasons badly. Villa have better players going forward on paper but noone of the quality of the Everton/Liverpool ones so I think they're within reach definitely, especially given the disarray around the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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1864roverite Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 Hold on a mo, we have Keef Andrews and Vinny Grella, what more do you want ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelmswar Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 Hold on a mo, we have Keef Andrews and Vinny Grella, what more do you want ? Two midfielders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 At least andrews has been restricted to a place on the bench this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexanders Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 At least andrews has been restricted to a place on the bench this season. But somehow manages to still get a lot of stick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipl Posted August 27, 2010 Author Share Posted August 27, 2010 But somehow manages to still get a lot of stick? Thanks for pointing that out.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelmswar Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 At least andrews has been restricted to a place on the bench this season. Still too close to the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipl Posted August 27, 2010 Author Share Posted August 27, 2010 Mascherano to Barca agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossydave Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 Liverpool have Torres and Gerrard, Everton have Arteta, Cahill and Saha along with the likes of Fellaini - those players will lift those teams above us reasonably comfortably. We don't have any big individual performers who can turn games, that's the difference. Both teams always start seasons badly. Villa have better players going forward on paper but noone of the quality of the Everton/Liverpool ones so I think they're within reach definitely, especially given the disarray around the club. All the players mentioned for Liverpool and Everton are extremely injury prone though to be fair, Moyes didn't even pick Fellaini againgst Wolves much to the dismay of the fans, he doesn't seem to know his best team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 Mascherano to Barca agreed c.£25m for Mascherano? Wow, its no wonder we cant afford any players. He's not worth even half of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 He's a good player, but to bank around £20 million plus Poulsen is good business for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby G Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 He will justify his fee if he helps Barcelona retain the title and CL. Dont forget they sold Yaya Toure for a bit more. I think Barcelona havent got a bad deal. Liverpool will miss him and Poulsen cant replace him. Question is will Pool use the money to strengthen or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexanders Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 There are rumours that they will go after Gohkan Inler from Udinese. I hope we get to see him in the EPL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 Wow that price has inflated from the £18m reported this morning. That was the fee they paid for him from West Ham a few years ago so I was going to say they'd be disappointed not to have made a rpofit on him. If it is £25m then they have done a good bit of business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexanders Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 I think it is £18m upfront and can rise to £25m depended on performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 I believe it is appearance, rather than performance, so it's virtually guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexanders Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 I meant appearance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipl Posted August 27, 2010 Author Share Posted August 27, 2010 Raffa did Liverpool a huge favour by slapping in a £20m offer for Mascherano. I know I am in the minority thinking this but having that aggressive player in their side moves Barca from awesome to almost unbeatable by anybody. It was the one signing I was hoping they wouldn't make if European football were to be in any way competitive this season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commondore Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 Wow that price has inflated from the £18m reported this morning. That was the fee they paid for him from West Ham a few years ago so I was going to say they'd be disappointed not to have made a rpofit on him. If it is £25m then they have done a good bit of business. Is that dodgy agency who "owned the rights" to Mascherano and Tevez when they signed for West Ham still involved? The money might have been spread to quite a lot of pockets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 Victir Obinna signs on a season long loan for West Ham from Inter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 Do you know much about him Mick? what type of player is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby G Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 Quick, skillful, but not the best finisher by a distant. Imagine a slightly less potent version of Oba Martins! But his pace will cause problems in our league for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Somerset Rover Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 Raffa did Liverpool a huge favour by slapping in a £20m offer for Mascherano. I know I am in the minority thinking this but having that aggressive player in their side moves Barca from awesome to almost unbeatable by anybody. It was the one signing I was hoping they wouldn't make if European football were to be in any way competitive this season! Good point Philip. After losing Toure they needed somebody to bite the heels of the opposition and break up any play the other team may somehow have. This signing means the likes of Xavi, Iniesta and Busquets needn't do any of the donkey work. Real vs Barca is going to be fascinating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby G Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 Busquets is the king of donkey work. It will be Busquets or Masche in that side most of the time, except when Iniesta is pushed up to the wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Somerset Rover Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 Busquets is the king of donkey work. It will be Busquets or Masche in that side most of the time, except when Iniesta is pushed up to the wing. Not IMO. I'll bet both are included the majority of the time. If you watch Busquets he's still a fairly elegant ball player. Mascherano is much better at breaking up play then Sergio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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