[Archived] Other Pl Happenings 2009/10

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Good to see you gave it a full 20 before commenting. If anything yesterday I would have said Ineista played all over the pitch, same for Messi as well. He was hardly up front ala Villa (who drifted to the inside left position, to create space for Messi) and he was hardly charging down the wing either or spearheading the attack. He was back well in own half on many an occasion helping out, Iniesta plays where the space is as do all the barca players and where he is needed.

Its a fluid formation ala United with Rooney, Tevez & Ronaldo. You couldn't put a specific position on those three and you can't with Barca either, that's why the system works so well.

Oh come on Maj, just admit it, you were wrong.

He was part of a front three; End of. You can be as pedantic as you want about about what he did when he was on the pitch, but we all know what system Barca play, and we all know where he was in that system.

[John]

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[Bobby G]

Robinho? I think that may be one attacking player too much to fit in! Pato, Zlatan and Ronnie must start. Unless Ronaldinho is leaving in January. If he keeps up the interest level like yesterday he will be turn back the clock. But I cant see it.

[BuckyRover]

Good to see you gave it a full 20 before commenting. If anything yesterday I would have said Ineista played all over the pitch, same for Messi as well. He was hardly up front ala Villa (who drifted to the inside left position, to create space for Messi) and he was hardly charging down the wing either or spearheading the attack. He was back well in own half on many an occasion helping out, Iniesta plays where the space is as do all the barca players and where he is needed.

Its a fluid formation ala United with Rooney, Tevez & Ronaldo. You couldn't put a specific position on those three and you can't with Barca either, that's why the system works so well.

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[philipl]

Quite astonishing to see the lack of transfer activity all across Europe so far today.

Damarcus Beasley to Hanover and Fabiano signing a new contract at Sevilla (which is not a transfer!) seems about it.

[Hughesy]

Wigan in talks with Chelsea for Di Santo

Brum trying to get Traore from Arsenal on loan

Be interesting to see if any scouts were at our reserve game - Rigters & Roberts both scored and also Judge played

[rebelmswar]

Jesus its the end.

Pray sinners.

[modes98]

Jesus its the end.

Pray sinners.

Surely Rigters must interest someone somewhere. Maybe a plus point for Roberts to WBA as well. Fingers crossed for some late moves.

[LeChuck]

Robinho? I think that may be one attacking player too much to fit in! Pato, Zlatan and Ronnie must start. Unless Ronaldinho is leaving in January. If he keeps up the interest level like yesterday he will be turn back the clock. But I cant see it.

Not sure about that...

.......... Pirlo . Ambrosini

Pato ..... Ronaldinho .. Robinho

............. Ibrahimovic

Or is that too attacking for Italian football?

[chaddyrovers]

I reckon Curbishley will get the villa job. Their 1st choice was Moyes but he's happy at Everton. About 2 weeks ago i put a bet on Knilsmann for the Villa job, got 33/1 so put a fiver on it. Looks like he won't get the job because Villa want a manager with PL knowledge.

[1864roverite]

Scharner now signed for WBA so thats a freebie off the list. Cant see them coming in for Roberts having signed Fortune.

[philipl]

Mascherano completed his move to Barca.

[Stuart]

Mascherano completed his move to Barca.

Excellent. That means Woy has made room for Andrews. What with Nicko's teaser about an unexpected departure, it's all starting to come together!

[roversmum]

Ha ha the announcer at Leigh Sports Village credited two of the goals to Big Jase when in fact Rigters scored the first one! Perhaps it was a ploy to impress Martinez who was there; as Jase missed a few chances as well

Edit: what unexpected departure? I've only been out a few hours and somebody is trying to sneak off behind my back???? Off to look at the transfers thread.

[rebelmswar]

Excellent. That means Woy has made room for Andrews. What with Nicko's teaser about an unexpected departure, it's all starting to come together!

That would be a wet dream capable of being read on the Richter scale.

[Oklahoma]

Hleb signs for Birmingham

Obinna signs for West Ham

Rodrigo signs for Bolton (not confirmed yet)

[ffan]

Rodrigo signs for Bolton (not confirmed yet)

Is this fella any good?

Yobo to West Ham?

[roversfan99]

Adebayor to spurs?

I doubt it with his Arsenal past etc, although he would be a better continental lone striker than what theyve got, if they decide to play 4-2-3-1.

[67splitscreen]

Adebayor to spurs?

I doubt it with his Arsenal past etc, although he would be a better continental lone striker than what theyve got, if they decide to play 4-2-3-1.

If that does happen surely spuds will be moving one out. Keane or Pav maybe, Busy day tomorrow for some.

[92er]

Adebayor to spurs?

I doubt it with his Arsenal past etc, although he would be a better continental lone striker than what theyve got, if they decide to play 4-2-3-1.

It doesn't fit in with the previous story that M.C. wouldn't loan them Bellamy as it would strengthen a rival club competing for a Champions league spot.

[beerwins]

It doesn't fit in with the previous story that M.C. wouldn't loan them Bellamy as it would strengthen a rival club competing for a Champions league spot.

Always amazes me, that they dont want to loan a player (in this case Adebayor) to other clubs incase he makes the club stronger and rivals their own, why the hell dont they utilize the talent he has.

This is going to become more frequent in the Prem as players are bought and managers are changed too often and in city's case players that were only signed a year ago find themsleves unwanted by the current manager and unable to move becasue of the wages they earn.

A lot of people may scoff at football manager games but after playing a season you quickly see that a lot of players become readily available because they are unwanted but other clubs dont have the funds to pay their wages, second year at Rovers and Bellamy and Santa cruz get placed on the transfer list by city and rot there unless city pay part of the wages to move. Imagine if Yaya Toure becomes a flop and they want to move him on, 3 or 4 clubs in the world could pay his wages and if they dont him what then?

I hope to god that if we do get took over that the majority of the cash goes into youth as the players wage demands are becoming pathetic and Rovers in the past have overpaid for average players. Cash investments come and go but 4 year contracts and such have to be paid.

[Oklahoma]

Is this fella any good?

He is a very promissing striker that Benfica bought from Real Madrid. He is an Under 21 international for Spain and was recently european champion.

[Roberto Policano]

Adebayor to spurs?

I doubt it with his Arsenal past etc, although he would be a better continental lone striker than what theyve got, if they decide to play 4-2-3-1.

Tottenham have been pushing on Huntelaar & Zarate last week.

Robinho held up because Milan trying to find a home for Borriello (Juve or Roma)surely happens though.

Baptista to Galatasaray

Not sure what Lazio are playing at with Cruz.

[Hughesy]

Huntelaar has gone to Shalke for £10m

Gyan to Sunderland

[Majiball]

I was giving you time to come and mention it, good to see you waited a good 12+ hours

Sorry boss I'll remember I'm at your beck and call next time. Oh and just to let you know in advance you'll be waiting longer for the next one.

Oh come on Maj, just admit it, you were wrong.

He was part of a front three; End of. You can be as pedantic as you want about about what he did when he was on the pitch, but we all know what system Barca play, and we all know where he was in that system.

Sorry but have you said he was part of a front 3 and then agreed with what I wrote? Regardless where sky puts him one their formation pics, it is what he does on the pitch that defines him and his role within the system. He does not stand on the last shoulder, he does not hold the ball up for the midfield, He does not look for through balls from the midfield for him to chase and so on. Does he stay out on the left flank as Bucky claims? Is he spearheading the attack?, No he does like I said and plays where he is needed. He does most of his work behind the frontman supporting them and the midfield, that is not a strikers role.

Since you seem to claim such intimate knowledge and understanding of Barca's tactical plan, pray tell expand on what you have said?

Also I'm not surprised to see you replying and butting in since if I remember correctly you got banned after I had a go at you????

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Hi Bucky,

Some pointers for you:

1.) The original point you made was that Fabregas would play in barca's first 11 should they sign him. I'm afraid I didn't see him play for them, did you???

2.) Next you proclaimed Iniesta was a left winger, again I didn't see him playing primarily as a left winger, did you???

3.) Next you say Iniesta plays up top (which is it Bucky??? with your in depth knowledge of the game you should be able to use the appropriate terminology), that means he is the pinnacle of the formation the furthest man forward playing roughly in line with their defence, A STRIKER, and yet he does the majority of his work behind the front man supporting both the "up top players" and the midfield. He is not a front man as you claim and most certainly did not play that role against Racing, primarily.

4.) You are the one putting roles on the barca players, not me. Villa a left winger as opposed to Villa a central striker who likes to drift out onto the left to create space in the middle for Messi & Co. Iniesta a central midfielder/hole player who pushes up to support the attack and drifts out wide when needed, tracks back to support the defence as well, but is a striker.

5.) your memory is so selective you forget what you wrote:

I completely disagree. Busquets/Mascherano as the holding player. Fabregas and Cesc in the centre. Villa and Iniesta on the wings and Ibra up top.

He would make the team ahead of Pedro, definitely. (you haven't even got Pedro in the team)

You've changed your stance and your wordings more frequently than my missus changes her clothes. Barca's whole system is dependent on the moment on what is going on at that specific time and whoever is closest to the target area takes on the role required. They have their main area's/system tactics but move about as required by the situation, fluidity.

Its little wonder the Spanish say that the English do not understand tactics, you have proved their point hands down.

Oh and I am not the one who has failed all throughout this argument, you have shown you do not have an in depth knowledge of football, starting with leaving Messi out of the team and stating Cesc has an identical twin. I can only guess that when Dunn came on here and said what he did he was reading your posts, and I have to say that if your ###### is what passes for in depth knowledge of football its little wonder Football clubs employ people to double check pro-zone. I also love the fact you say your a data analysist as from that I deduct that you don't analyse matches since they are called match analysts and work alongside one specific club? As well as the fact that you yourself have proven that you know nothing about football, you have also proved you know nothing about what you have said. I've proved my in depth knowledge on here time and time again, Where does ped's play now? Where is Chimbonda?, What style of football do we play?, Did Ince fail?, Is emerton a holding player?, Is he a full back?, Has Robbo stepped up and improved?, Does Givet get exposed at left back/excel at centre back?, The Academy? Our many missed out on youth players (podolski, Johnson)?, Downes needing to go?, Coaching techniques? Sports science?

I guess that's why league clubs have/do pay me for my knowledge, you most certainly have not proved yours.

Oh and one final point, As opposed to looking a newspapers (criteria is different for everyone) for the standings on universities try looking at the area's that matter. Which polytechnic is the only one to have scored 24 out of 24 for teaching in the field of sports science???? Which polytechnic is the only to have scored 5** out of 5** for research as well??? I wonder.

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Please apply the above to yourself as I'm not going to comment again on your replies as its like arguing with a brick wall.