[Archived] Blackburn Rovers Transfer Topic

[Ewood and I Would]

Peter CrouchPortsmouth to Sunderland - The Insider says: 2/5

The England striker is far from happy with the way things are being handled at Portsmouth and that has alerted clubs around the country.

If Portsmouth show ambition however, he could still be there come the start of the season.

Sunderland, Blackburn and Tottenham have long admired the 6ft 7ins striker but he would not come cheap with Portsmouth keen to at least recoup the £11million they agreed with Liverpool and a small matter of wages at £70,000 a week.

If either of those two figures are correct, we can forget about Crouch.

[alexanders]

Just a thought about next year:

Robinson

Emerton - Givet - Nelsen - Warnock

Grella

Diouf - Jurado - Pedersen

Shikabala

Samba

[thenodrog]

Just a thought about next year:

Robinson

Emerton - Givet - Nelsen - Warnock

Grella - Dunn (or another box-to-box midfielder)

Diouf (or another rm) - Jurado - Pedersen

Samba

Samba is an emergency centre forward only.

[No Nay Never]

What I mean is I understand a couple of million might go to other places, but still that should leave us with another 10 million or so give or take.

and yeah, my mistake, we didn't get anything for Mokoena. So that makes it a smaller sum, but still - money is missing.

What people need to understand is that Blackburn Rovers is a business 13 million out of 18 million to spend isn't bad, put it this way its more than a lot of clubs would see in this day and age, the remaining 5 million will simply go into running the club, paying wages, bills etc etc etc and enable that Blackburn Rovers continue to be a relatively debt free club.

On another point as well, we have the 3rd cheapest season tickets in the whole of the football league, so obviously the club needs to regain some of the lost gate receipts in other ways and if that is by generating money from selling 1) someone who doesn't want to be at the club..........and.............2) someone who isn't good enough for the Prem....then so be it.

[Kelbo]

Strkers and Target men can be two different things!!

An out and out striker should be scoring goals, a target man will get a few but create quite a few too, thats his game.

Even Samba last year, playing the emergency target man role caused panic in opposition defences, even after Sam had warned them he would and three or four goals were directly because of his presence, even Englands number 1 keeper couldnt cope!!

So please try and understand the difference between the two, Target men and strikers both have different roles in the team!!

[Hi Mack]

Samba is an emergency centre forward only.

Too Bloody right!

Samba cannot and will not play as a full time striker!

People are moaning about BS football. with Samba up front

it will be truely dire!Samba did a decent job for a defender

doing a strikers job but apart from that it was terrible to watch!

[thenodrog]

Strkers and Target men can be two different things!!

An out and out striker should be scoring goals, a target man will get a few but create quite a few too, thats his game.

After selling Derbyshire and RSC in the same week I'm suprised that you even needed to say that Kelbo.

But on the other hand considering the best efforts of some of our posters...............

[alexanders]

Thats why I am thinking about using Samba as a target man and using Shikabala next to him or behind him. With Emerton overlapping Diouf and Diouf on one side. Warnock overlapping Pedersen on the other side. Both Diouf and PEdersen can produce decent crosses to Samba and Jurado will be able to do some runs in to the space Samba will create.

Grella will be defensive midfield and protect the back four and also balancing the team when Emerton and Warnock bombs forward.

On the bench we will have: Dunn, Andrews, Benni, Roberts and Van Heerden.

Andrews who can fill in on RB and CM, BENNI/ROBERTS who can play as strikers and VAN HEERDEN to Fill in for gamst.

If one of the CB's get injured Samba can be moved down as a CB and benni or roberts will enter.

IF Warnock gets injured Samba can move down to CB and Givet to LB. Benni and Roberts will enter.

THAT IS WHAT I CALL AN EXTREMELY VERSATILE SQUAD !

[thenodrog]

Thats why I am thinking about using Samba as a target man and using Shikabala next to him or behind him. With Emerton overlapping Diouf and Diouf on one side. Warnock overlapping Pedersen on the other side. Both Diouf and PEdersen can produce decent crosses to Samba and Jurado will be able to do some runs in to the space Samba will create.

Grella will be defensive midfield and protect the back four and also balancing the team when Emerton and Warnock bombs forward.

On the bench we will have: Dunn, Andrews, Benni, Roberts and Van Heerden.

Andrews who can fill in on RB and CM, BENNI/ROBERTS who can play as strikers and VAN HEERDEN to Fill in for gamst.

If one of the CB's get injured Samba can be moved down as a CB and benni or roberts will enter.

IF Warnock gets injured Samba can move down to CB and Givet to LB. Benni and Roberts will enter.

THAT IS WHAT I CALL AN EXTREMELY VERSATILE SQUAD !

See my previous post.

[nicko]

The unpleasant surprise is that Renato Civelli, who had been talking to Rovers about joining on a free from Marseille, is heading for Everton instead. He is due in at the weekend. Big Argie, would have been Ooijer's replacement, but now bound for somewhere else.

The snag for Rovers was his demand for around £40,000-a-week. He is expecting that at Everton. He may yet get an unpleasant surprise himself.

As for the Crouch story...five months ago it was right. Not now.

[Exiled_Rover]

Glad to see Rovers not bending over backwards to the demands of a footballer.

[Bobby G]

If he was going to play in our first team, at his age, and his attributes and the fact that no fee is involved, then I dont see the problem.

Nicko, any idea what he is currently on and what we actually offered him?

We had the same thing over Valencia a few years ago when we didnt sign him. Lets hope he doesnt turn out that way.

[nicko]

If he was going to play in our first team, at his age, and his attributes and the fact that no fee is involved, then I dont see the problem.

Nicko, any idea what he is currently on and what we actually offered him?

We had the same thing over Valencia a few years ago when we didnt sign him. Lets hope he doesnt turn out that way.

I don't know what he was offered, but the player's demands were causing some concern from quite early on in the talks [about a month ago].

Don't worry, he is no Valencia. But you WILL need a right-sided defender who ideally plays both roles.

[alexanders]

See my previous post.

Is that all you got?

You aren't able to discuss anything, are you?

[BlueWhiteDynamite]

The snag for Rovers was his demand for around £40,000-a-week

OK its quite high, but as the player is a free would we not have used what should have been the transfer fee on the wages? If we'd have got him it would then have allowed us to concentrate on other areas of the pitch as the defence would have been sorted.

I think its going to be a strange season with the World cup next summer. Those who have a place in a decent team and are in the national squad would be expected to stay. Those who are on the fringe of the national squad wanting to go to the world cup need to be the ones we target. There must be better players out there than Kevin Davies at that price.

Also the LET reported an 8Mill loss last season, yet the year before did we not make money?

[joey_big_nose]

If he was going to play in our first team, at his age, and his attributes and the fact that no fee is involved, then I dont see the problem.

Nicko, any idea what he is currently on and what we actually offered him?

We had the same thing over Valencia a few years ago when we didnt sign him. Lets hope he doesnt turn out that way.

Did we try to sign Valencia?!?

[nicko]

OK its quite high, but as the player is a free would we not have used what should have been the transfer fee on the wages? If we'd have got him it would then have allowed us to concentrate on other areas of the pitch as the defence would have been sorted.

I can only presume that - after watching the player - Rovers felt he wasn't worth that amount in wages even as a free. They are probably right.

[LeChuck]

OK its quite high, but as the player is a free would we not have used what should have been the transfer fee on the wages?

But because he's replacing Ooijer (who left on a free) then we can't budget a transfer fee in to a replacement.

Ooijer is a smaller scale version of what would happen in a few years if we sign Davies, but we'd be a few more million quid out of pocket and trying to replace someone in a far more important position.

I can't imagine Seitaridis will want less money so we're going to have a really hard job getting in a decent right back. It might be that Sam will gamble on Emerton and Reid staying fit.

[Kelbo]

After selling Derbyshire and RSC in the same week I'm suprised that you even needed to say that Kelbo.

But on the other hand considering the best efforts of some of our posters...............

Thats the reason I posted, its obvious the system Sam wants to play, yet people are still posting about out and out strikers rather than a target man!

[nicko]

Did we try to sign Valencia?!?

There was a definite Rovers interest off the back of the World Cup finals. However Paul Jewell picked him out early and worked very hard on that one. Steve Bruce claimed the glory later on obviously.

[EwoodGlory]

If we we're / are interested in Chimbonda then surely that would cost more than Civelli?

Must be a transfer fee of about £2m-£2.5m plus wages can't be far off £40k a week after his move to Sunderland where he was on a good deal.

[nicko]

If we we're / are interested in Chimbonda then surely that would cost more than Civelli?

Must be a transfer fee of about £2m-£2.5m plus wages can't be far off £40k a week after his move to Sunderland where he was on a good deal.

I think Chimbonda's best chance of a move was a swap - as I said at the time. He was being mentioned in the Roque equations. The Warnock idea seems to have gone quiet at the Spurs end. So unless Chimbonda is loaned out or given away then that one won't happen with Rovers.

[Lurid Coat]

Daily Mail:

Fulham are considering a loan move for Villarreal starlet Jozy Altidore.

If he actually is available on a loan - get in there, Sam!

[nicko]

Daily Mail:

Fulham are considering a loan move for Villarreal starlet Jozy Altidore.

If he actually is available on a loan - get in there, Sam!

Huge work permit problems still...and didn't get a sniff against Egypt last week [although that was only one game].

Would not have the strength for the Prem.

[alexanders]

Players who specialise in playing as a target are usually of above-average height with good heading ability and an accurate shot. They tend to be the "outlet" player for both midfielders and defenders, able to hold the ball up and allow other players time to enter the game. They tend to score goals from crosses, often with the head, and can use their body strength to shield the ball while turning to score.

And that is not Samba?