[Archived] Kevin Davies - The Second Coming...?

[Majiball]

If Davies comes he will not come cheap. Why should he? Bolton don't want or have to sell. We cannot afford to blow the percentage of our transfer budget that he represents on an elderly striker. Like it or not strikers peak earlier than defenders or keepers and probably midfielders too. He is uninspiring, expensive and soon to be past it. I know we need to be careful with cash but if this is us being careful then perhaps we should just give in to the inevitable and volunteer for relegation next season and save the players the trouble of trying.

Ok get Davies in and sell Benni please Sam that will lower the average age, We need a striker who will score 10+ and we have bugger all to spend.

Perhaps we could sell them Benni.

Bolton got him for nothing he's been loyal and so on it should count for something IF Davies really wants the move and IF we move for him.

TBH I'll be gobsmacked if he comes, I'd rather Crouch.

People have short memories, pray tell me what parts derb's, RSC and kish played in our escape???? Was it no part?, so as we showed good form with the same players we still have I'm not so fearful of relegation.

FAITH.

Theres still plenty of players who could leave and generate more funds for younger signings in the other area's

Good for JW. Bad for Sam. Good for us if JW sticks to his guns.

Sam's doing nothing different than he's done at every club, he has his system and it works.

If he feels Davies is required so be it, but if he comes one of the others must go.

[BRFC1995]

so if i get this right he'll be 33 in march, given his large frame its not unlikely he won't start having knee problems. So we'd get what 1 season out of him for a combined fee of 12million to this club all be it spread over 11 years....................this is a wind up, they'll be bidding 8million for grabbi next. whatever happened to us not being silly in the transfer market and using scouts to find little gems

[Presty On Tour]

The thread title sounds like a horror movie!

Very sore and hungover, read this and I think I'm going to be sick!

[Majiball]

Literally just fell off my chair!?

66 goals in 341 games!? Not what i would call proven or effective!

Have you played Benmaxwell? I'm just curious after that comment which is a bit strange really.

I once got moved to right back (I was a winger), the opposition put there big strong lump out wide against me, now I was quick but 5 10 and his strenght gave me serious problems, as does davies. I had one of the worst games of my life, he was too strong. In the end we had to go 532 to give me more support, just as teams do with Davies and Heskey in the prem.

It takes two to mark Davies, two. You do realise that means we have two extra men than them when in possesion, don't you. 1 in midfield and then the keeper acting as sweeper.

There's far more to Davies than goals, he creates lots of space and oppurtunities in a very dangerous area.

What is it they say about Roberts??? Causes all sorts of problems with his strenght, if he could finish he'd be a inspired striker.

Davies is effective in the role that he is asked to do, why on earth would Capello have sent so many scouts to watch him before decided on Heskey. You truly do do the man a diservice, I'd give my right arm to achieve what he has in the game.

DAVIES IS EFFECTIVE

[Anti-Dingle-Brigade]

I agree with you about Davies Maji, but don't sell Benni. Benni could use that space you are talking about better than Roberts ever could.

[Guest benmaxwell]

Majiball, how old were you when you changed position.

if Davies was playing with the guile he has at the moment and was 26 i would be all for it. But the amount that is being mooted considering his age is beyond excessive!

[AggyBlue]

If the story is correct we should welcome back Davies with open arms.

One of the most effective, proven strikers in the league, feared by opponents and rarely injured.

Great signing if it comes off.... look forward to seeing him back at Ewood.

Oh no,

Jim's forgot to take his tablets again

[roverseas]

I don't think anyone disagrees with that benmaxwell. However, you said that he wasn't effective and proven. He clearly is.

I'm reserving my judgement until I know IF we really bid for him and how much.

[jonv]

Davies will not be coming.

[begresko]

Lets not forget Davies is Boltons player of the season for two years in a row and club captain. He is a proven menace and will score an average, not breath-taking, amount of goals per season. I very much doubt anyone says he is a world clas player but he does a very good job for a poor team.

I think that lots of clubs would take him, even if they say they wouldn't. The main problem is that we support blackburn rovers, the destination of his terrible, terrible season, where he looked lazy and useless. If we can block that out we can see he is a very handy player who lots of bolton fans rate highly

[Ossydave]

Davies will not be coming.

That can't be true, Alan Nixon said he is!

[Bobby G]

Why not make a poll. It would be interesting...

[Majiball]

I agree with you about Davies Maji, but don't sell Benni. Benni could use that space you are talking about better than Roberts ever could.

Fair enough. He could but he has to start looking after himself, if he got fit and stayed fit, regardless I'd be very happy, but i'm not convinced.

Majiball, how old were you when you changed position.

if Davies was playing with the guile he has at the moment and was 26 i would be all for it. But the amount that is being mooted considering his age is beyond excessive!

Whats my age in that game got to do with it?

You stated he was not proven or effective, so I used personal experince to show what I mean about strenght in the game and how effective it is. I played Right back once in over 12 years of playing, I was moved out of nesseciaty in one match.

Davies can jump like a kangaroo and probably runs through brick walls in training he's that strong and physhical, as I said and Kelbo have said he takes two of the opposition out of the game, instantly every game, thats great from a tactical point of view. Plus he can do it our league, proven.

I don't disagree on the age issue 32 is not my ideal senario, but the other options are serious risks, Davies far less so.

Until it happens if it does this is all conjecture, yesterday it was de la pena (no chance) then Tamundo (no chance).

Everyone on here keeps praising our sports science team didn't howard play a significant role in the likes of Djorkaeff and Campo et al playing regular premiership football till they where how old?? Teddy sheringham anyone, he could easily play another three years at the top and play well with good support and Howard is one of the best, add that with fevre our world renowned physio and I have faith that at 32 and with strong support Davies could still be starting in three years, easy.

the 32 of todays game is not the 32 of ten years ago.

Sam has always gone for experience, youth would be nice but we must be very selective and make sure one they can and will develop and two they can come straight in, no easy task with next to no money to spend and at least three positions definitly needing filling for next year.

I'd take 1-2M straight out of that budget and blow it on the academy anyway, thats what will save Rovers future in this league long term.

[jim mk2]

Some player called Thierry Henry is a big fan of Davies.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/foo...ticle655342.ece

[den]

copying Nicko's posts directly onto their own site.

Bad form eh?

[Kelbo]

Fair enough. He could but he has to start looking after himself, if he got fit and stayed fit, regardless I'd be very happy, but i'm not convinced.

Whats my age in that game got to do with it?

You stated he was not proven or effective, so I used personal experince to show what I mean about strenght in the game and how effective it is. I played Right back once in over 12 years of playing, I was moved out of nesseciaty in one match.

Davies can jump like a kangaroo and probably runs through brick walls in training he's that strong and physhical, as I said and Kelbo have said he takes two of the opposition out of the game, instantly every game, thats great from a tactical point of view. Plus he can do it our league, proven.

I don't disagree on the age issue 32 is not my ideal senario, but the other options are serious risks, Davies far less so.

Until it happens if it does this is all conjecture, yesterday it was de la pena (no chance) then Tamundo (no chance).

Everyone on here keeps praising our sports science team didn't howard play a significant role in the likes of Djorkaeff and Campo et al playing regular premiership football till they where how old?? Teddy sheringham anyone, he could easily play another three years at the top and play well with good support and Howard is one of the best, add that with fevre our world renowned physio and I have faith that at 32 and with strong support Davies could still be starting in three years, easy.

the 32 of todays game is not the 32 of ten years ago.

Sam has always gone for experience, youth would be nice but we must be very selective and make sure one they can and will develop and two they can come straight in, no easy task with next to no money to spend and at least three positions definitly needing filling for next year.

I'd take 1-2M straight out of that budget and blow it on the academy anyway, thats what will save Rovers future in this league long term.

Youth is the way forward for the future but, in my experience, there has got to be the right balance, young players have one fallback, they do tend to lack consistency, this is because of experience which affects their decision making at times, not all players but the majority do have that problem, hopefully in time we will find a way round that.

[OhmiBRFC]

When did we become Dingles?

[Anti-Dingle-Brigade]

We always have been but we don't care enough about them to know about their pet names and habits.

[deryck guyler's spoon]

When did we become Dingles?

Bolton desperately want a rivalry with us. They get called inbreds by Utd and City fans, see that this is how we refer to Burnley and turn it on us in the hope it will foster something more than the normal apathy.

Hasn't worked.

[Manchester Blue]

Last season was his highest scoring season ever for Bolton, a mighty 11. Smashing his previous best of ten, the only other time he brok double figures. Every other year he has collected more yellow cards than goals. If we were discussing picking him up for free i'd still expect lots of people to be annoyed and i'd understand that. However being rational for a minute i'd accept him on a free cos I can see he has qualities despite not liking the bloke.

For £5 million it's just a ridiculous joke, any more and it's disgraceful and not even funny. Ignoring that stats argument for a minute which should certainly explain to many why so many are against splashing £5m on him. He'd have such a job to win over fans that he shat on years ago that it just doesn't make sense.

The man was a disgrace to himself, the fans and the club that spent a fortune on it. He preferred to splash it up the wall or more appropriately down his throat than bother making any effort to get fit. I just see this as more evidence of why I didn't want BFS in the first place.

[OhmiBRFC]

We always have been but we don't care enough about them to know about their pet names and habits.

Bolton desperately want a rivalry with us. They get called inbreds by Utd and City fans, see that this is how we refer to Burnley and turn it on us in the hope it will foster something more than the normal apathy.

Hasn't worked.

I knew they were trying to create a rivalry with us but that is just laughable. They profess to not hate us, yet, they imitate us by copying everything we say 'bout B*rnley :/

[accyrover]

Davies was being talked about as on the verge of the last England squad. Just because he had a bad time when we signed him doesn't mean he will again. FFS get off his back. IF he signs then we will have aquired a very highly rated English forward. His form is far superior now that it ever was and Sam knows his game.

Accyrover

[Kelbo]

I would like to ask you all a question,

If you want to stop a midfielder spraying the ball around, you close him down quickly and give him no time on the ball, if you want stop someone like Ronaldo,you would find it very difficult, so you cut out his supply line, so he doesnt see much of the ball, if you want to stop a pacy striker, you deny him

grass between the back four and keeper, with the keeper playing a sweeper role!!

How do you stop a keeper taking a goal kick, Keeper or any other player taking a free kick, corner kick down a target mans throat ???

How as an opposing manager do you allow for that??

Be interested to hear.

[leftfooter]

Also, i never claimed to be a journo... I am in the media circuit, but not a Journo.

I said what i did. But didn't invite questions and quips about my living. In fact i have asked on more then one occasion for people to PM me if they wanted to know anything, and not discuss it on the board.

Now i know for a fact that you read that message and had it drummed into your head by one of the mods. So why your defying that and still talking about it on here is anyones guess.

Can't help yourself can you?

[Anti-Dingle-Brigade]

I would like to ask you all a question,

If you want to stop a midfielder spraying the ball around, you close him down quickly and give him no time on the ball, if you want stop someone like Ronaldo,you would find it very difficult, so you cut out his supply line, so he doesnt see much of the ball, if you want to stop a pacy striker, you deny him

grass between the back four and keeper, with the keeper playing a sweeper role!!

How do you stop a keeper taking a goal kick, Keeper or any other player taking a free kick, corner kick down a target mans throat ???

How as an opposing manager do you allow for that??

Be interested to hear.

Have your biggest defender clobber him like we do with Samba.

The Davies argument is a good one, remember last season? Didn't we put Ooijer at Left Back just because of Davies?