[Archived] Kevin Davies - The Second Coming...?

[Guest benmaxwell]

Can't help yourself can you?

If you looked at the post i replied too, you will notice why i said that...

Can't win can i really? If i answer, i get snipes like you just made, and if i don't answer, im obviously hiding something?

[Majiball]

Youth is the way forward for the future but, in my experience, there has got to be the right balance, young players have one fallback, they do tend to lack consistency, this is because of experience which affects their decision making at times, not all players but the majority do have that problem, hopefully in time we will find a way round that.

True, true, I'm going to look into that one, must be some science on it somewhere.

Good shout.

Have your biggest defender clobber him like we do with Samba.

The Davies argument is a good one, remember last season? Didn't we put Ooijer at Left Back just because of Davies?

What happens the one time our big defender loses him in the box???

yes we did shift Ooijer didn't we, there's my point we changed our system to cope with theirs, teams would do that with us if we had Davies. Giving us an advantage.

[Ossydave]

People are going on like he's on the brink of signing for us because Nicko said so.

For a start does anyone actually think JW would sanction a move for Kevin Davies? Are you people actually for real?

Not to mention the fact Kevin Davies despises us.

Oh and there's the small fact that Bolton are desperate to keep hold of him.

I'm pretty sure there's no chance of it happening.

[DE.]

Amusing thread.

Anybody comparing Davies to the lad that signed for us ten years ago should stop, he's a far superior player now, to the point where his past self might as well have been a completely different person.

Footballing wise, I have no problem with Davies coming in. Yes, his role will be part of a hard-hitting team and it doesn't promote fanciful football, but 'sexy' football will likely get us relegated. We have to play a battering ram style in order to shove ourselves up the league, and I have no issue with this as long as we win. Victories will make up for a poorer brand of football.

My issue with this transfer is the money, plain and simple. 5M for a 32 year old is ridiculous, and for a club of our size and structure a baffling move. He'll have no resale value whatsoever, and we'll at most get 2 seasons out of him before he winds down and either becomes injury prone or not good enough for this league. It could happen in one season.

I have no issues with Davies from the past at all (he didn't force us to pay 7.5M for him after all), and rate him somewhat as a footballer these days, but the money it would take for the transfer to go ahead seems unreasonable and a silly move if it happens. 2M with perhaps an extra 1M after a certain number of goals or a certain league finish would be the most I'd pay for him.

[brightonrover]

People are going on like he's on the brink of signing for us because Nicko said so.

For a start does anyone actually think JW would sanction a move for Kevin Davies? Are you people actually for real?

Not to mention the fact Kevin Davies despises us.

Oh and there's the small fact that Bolton are desperate to keep hold of him.

I'm pretty sure there's no chance of it happening.

I only hope you're right, Mr Ossy.

[Grabbi Graeme]

It's obvious that Davies is a much improved player than his first stint with us, while I wouldn't be against him signing for us what I would be concearned about is the £5 million that is being is being knocked around, that's alot for a 32 year old.

Bolton have come out and said they will not sell him, so this story could be dead by tomorrow unless the player himself come's out and says he wants to play for Sam again.

[Kelbo]

People are going on like he's on the brink of signing for us because Nicko said so.

For a start does anyone actually think JW would sanction a move for Kevin Davies? Are you people actually for real?

Not to mention the fact Kevin Davies despises us.

Oh and there's the small fact that Bolton are desperate to keep hold of him.

I'm pretty sure there's no chance of it happening.

If or not Bolton decide to sell or not, the decision, providing it is within the budget given to the manager, is the managers decision and his alone, otherwise there is no point, thats why Keegan, Curbishly and others resigned, the manager must have control of team affairs and transfers!!

[Eddie]

People are going on like he's on the brink of signing for us because Nicko said so.

For a start does anyone actually think JW would sanction a move for Kevin Davies? Are you people actually for real?

Not to mention the fact Kevin Davies despises us.

Oh and there's the small fact that Bolton are desperate to keep hold of him.

I'm pretty sure there's no chance of it happening.

Even if it doesn't happen, does it no worry you that Allardyce has identified him as his number one target?

[Ossydave]

If or not Bolton decide to sell or not, the decision, providing it is within the budget given to the manager, is the managers decision and his alone, otherwise there is no point, thats why Keegan, Curbishly and others resigned, the manager must have control of team affairs and transfers!!

You'd be lucky to get our board to stump up 5M for the next Pele, never mind someone as old as Davies. Financial constraints are placed upon the manager of any team and I simply cannot see the powers that be agreeing to spend 5M (or anything like that) on Davies. He also has previous, and I find it hard to believe anyone within the club can overlook that.

He has almost cult status at Bolton, he'd be up against it from the start at Ewood, why on earth would he want to sacrifice that at his age? What can we offer him that Bolton can't? He's surely their highest earner as it is.

[Amo]

It's good to hear some common sense in the past few posts. Some people are living in 1998 judging by the hysterics. Davies reformed as a player when he left Rovers, and is a very handy target man. It's the figures being speculated that should give us cause for concern, though. I would be greatly disturbed if we signed him for anything more than £3m.

[Kelbo]

Even if it doesn't happen, does it no worry you that Allardyce has identified him as his number one target?

Why? should it worry me,to be quite honest, it would worry the manager more for if it doesnt work, he's out of a job and his pedegree drops again!!

He is pretty shrewd, a forward thinking mnager and I honestly feel we should wait until he has finished all his dealings and look at it in the whole picture!!

I can see where he is comeing from now!!

[Ossydave]

Even if it doesn't happen, does it no worry you that Allardyce has identified him as his number one target?

At no point have I heard Sam say he is his number one target? It's from the mouth, or fingers of a journo as far as I know?

[John]

Even if it doesn't happen, does it no worry you that Allardyce has identified him as his number one target?

I can understand why so many people are against him joining, but if we want a physical target man, then there are not many better than Davies. Sam knows how good he is and he has been a major factor in Bolton performing well over recent years.

Don't think we would ever pay £5 million for him though (taking into account his age as well). Also think there has been a slight overreaction. Too many are looking back to the time Davies was here previously, which is understandable, but don't think you can question his ability/effectiveness.

Ultimately, Bolton will be reluctant to sell one of their most influential players and even if they wanted to, they will only accept a huge bid, something we are unlikely to offer.

[Billy Castell]

Davies for say, £2-3m would be OK, but any more will be a waste. He is pretty effective for Bolton, but at 32 the £5m that is supposed to be offered is far too much. I'd rather use that £5m taking a punt on two of the intruiging strikers in the 2nd division e.g. Cox/Lambert/Beccio. Or risking another figure in the position RSC was in when at Bayern.

[Kelbo]

Amusing thread.

Anybody comparing Davies to the lad that signed for us ten years ago should stop, he's a far superior player now, to the point where his past self might as well have been a completely different person.

Footballing wise, I have no problem with Davies coming in. Yes, his role will be part of a hard-hitting team and it doesn't promote fanciful football, but 'sexy' football will likely get us relegated. We have to play a battering ram style in order to shove ourselves up the league, and I have no issue with this as long as we win. Victories will make up for a poorer brand of football.

My issue with this transfer is the money, plain and simple. 5M for a 32 year old is ridiculous, and for a club of our size and structure a baffling move. He'll have no resale value whatsoever, and we'll at most get 2 seasons out of him before he winds down and either becomes injury prone or not good enough for this league. It could happen in one season.

I have no issues with Davies from the past at all (he didn't force us to pay 7.5M for him after all), and rate him somewhat as a footballer these days, but the money it would take for the transfer to go ahead seems unreasonable and a silly move if it happens. 2M with perhaps an extra 1M after a certain number of goals or a certain league finish would be the most I'd pay for him.

Despite my arguments, I would be inclined to agree with almost everything you say, I would go £3,000,000 plus an add on though

[Tris]

I think we're probably on the wrong end of an elaborate wind up here ... I know Mr Nixon has managed to get the story printed, but I reckon he's slipped the sports editor a wad of cash rather than getting paid for the article. Ho ho ho I'll get them with this one

Kevin Davies coming back to Ewood??? Ha ha ha - someone will tell me Burnley are in the Premier League next

[Majiball]

Some poll on Davies

[Grabbi Graeme]

Some poll on Davies

Have you noticed who wrote that

[Majiball]

Have you noticed who wrote that

No, it was on newsnow

Its vinjay isn't it???

EDIT: ROFLMAO I only wanted it for the poll since so many where asking I thought we could use that one, LOL, LOL

[rover6]

Forget the prejudce, bitterness, bigotry, stupidity.

There is one good reason to oppose the Davies signing.

It can only mean that Allardyce plans to replicate the Bolton extra-terrestrial football, with Davies as battering ram, Diouf as fiendish second-ball battler and so on.

I don't care what Bolton achieved with those tactics but I think that they are contrary to the spirit - the aesthetic and entertainment - of football.

If football is all about results and the actual game doesn't matter, why watch matches? FOr the see-saw suspense of anticipating the final result? Well, just watch the vidi-printer.

This sucks.

[Tom]

Don't want Davies personally due to his age mainly, BUT if he signs him and the manager will get my full support and I'd hope the full support of the rest of you regardless of any grudges.

[Guest benmaxwell]

I can think of 5 million reasons we shouldn't sign him...

[jim mk2]

If football is all about results and the actual game doesn't matter, why watch matches?

I go to Ewood to watch Rovers win. End of story.

[Majiball]

I can think of 5 million reasons we shouldn't sign him...

Could you list them? :wink:

I do understand your concerns on the price, hopefully we can get good old JW on the case to get it down. He is a shrewd negotiator.

Wonder if Megson would want gally or say treacy?????

[RibbleValleyRover]

BUT if he signs him and the manager will get my full support and I'd hope the full support of the rest of you regardless of any grudges.

I don't think he will get it. Spoken to mates since the potential target was named and only two of them have said they want him at the club and they think its a good choice. I think the majority will be against this transfer if it happens.

Unless Sam is spending a decent amount of cash on the midfield instead he and the board will have serious questions to answer. Derbs out, Roque probably out, Zurab going there should be funds there to buy a better player than Kevin Davies and strengthen the midfield.

There's absolutely nothing that will make me change my mind on this if it happens. I don't rate the player i think its a complete waste of money especially if he comes for the sort of money we are talking here (English= overpriced, signed a new deal recently and the club won't want to sell).

BTW the football style has nothing to do with it, i couldn't care less if we play long ball or the short stuff i just think its a completely bad move.