[Archived] How Many Mosques In Blackburn?

[ABBEY]

take it they dont wander round in droves around ipswich town center then.

[DE.]

take it they dont wander round in droves around ipswich town center then.

We have a high percentage of immigrants around these parts so I see plenty of them about. I'm not intimidated by them and they've never done anything to me.

[ABBEY]

so the Poles go round wearing veils and everyone loves them ?

[DE.]

so the Poles go round wearing veils and everyone loves them ?

I was talking about the Muslim immigrants but it's not really a case of 'loving' anyone, just getting along. There are obviously issues that come with cultural conflict but they're generally quite small in this area.

I know the racial divide up North is worse than it is down here, I've experienced it. Doesn't change my view though.

[ABBEY]

tell you what next time you come up to a game have a walk by yourself around both the Ranges and your eyes will opened or blackened.(bruised before the racist police twist blackened)

[gumboots]

Have you ever tried conducting a one on one interview with a woman wearing a veil? Parents' evenings are very difficult when women cover their faces, especially if their command of English is not good. You want to make sure they understand why their child is not doing as well as possible and yet are not sure how much of what you say they are taking in because there are no clues in their facial expressions. I find it tremendously hard work and whilst i do not wish to start banning items of clothing I do wish women would be more sensible about where they wear veils.

[Mattyblue]

I was talking about the Muslim immigrants but it's not really a case of 'loving' anyone, just getting along. There are obviously issues that come with cultural conflict but they're generally quite small in this area.

I know the racial divide up North is worse than it is down here, I've experienced it. Doesn't change my view though.

The problem is Blackburn is quickly heading towards a 50% Muslim population (the highest proportion in the UK outside parts of east London.

This divide is getting MORE not less entrenched and the unpalatable truth is that the white 'professional' class of Blackburn have left the town in droves and will continue to do so. I would like those that live in the area to argue against that statement.

The suburbs of north Blackburn- Revidge, Witton, Pleckgate, Beardwood, Lammack are seeing a rapid transformation as the white population leave, an estate agent friend of mine told me that it is becoming almost unheard of to oversee purchases from non-Muslims in these areas. The closing of public houses in these areas- at a much quicker rate than other parts of the borough is a visible example of that.

This coupled with the almost exclusively Muslim areas of 'inner Blackburn' Whalley Range, Audley, Queen's Park, Brookhouse, Bastwell, Little Harwood means that Blackburn's identity has been competely transformed in a few generations.

This is not integration, this is a complete failure of multi culturalist dogma to see the vast differences between the long established communites of Blackburn and those that arrived here 40/50 years ago. It is simply the replacement of one mono-cultural society with another.

In 30 years time, it is highly likely that the only residents of Blackburn will be those on lower incomes and or in social housing, the elderly and those of an Islamic background.

'White flight' is real and is hapenning across the town. Is that what we wanted from immigration?

[adopted scouser]

The problem is Blackburn is quickly heading towards a 50% Muslim population (the highest proportion in the UK outside parts of east London.

This divide is getting MORE not less entrenched and the unpalatable truth is that the white 'professional' class of Blackburn have left the town in droves and will continue to do so. I would like those that live in the area to argue against that statement.

The suburbs of north Blackburn- Revidge, Witton, Pleckgate, Beardwood, Lammack are seeing a rapid transformation as the white population leave, an estate agent friend of mine told me that it is becoming almost unheard of to oversee purchases from non-Muslims in these areas. The closing of public houses in these areas- at a much quicker rate than other parts of the borough is a visible example of that.

This coupled with the almost exclusively Muslim areas of 'inner Blackburn' Whalley Range, Audley, Queen's Park, Brookhouse, Bastwell, Little Harwood means that Blackburn's identity has been competely transformed in a few generations.

This is not integration, this is a complete failure of multi culturalist dogma to see the vast differences between the long established communites of Blackburn and those that arrived here 40/50 years ago. It is simply the replacement of one mono-cultural society with another.

In 30 years time, it is highly likely that the only residents of Blackburn will be those on lower incomes and or in social housing, the elderly and those of an Islamic background.

'White flight' is real and is hapenning across the town. Is that what we wanted from immigration?

Careful Matt, telling the truth won't go down well with many on here

[LeChuck]

Are you suggesting people are leaving Blackburn because of immigration?

I'm not from Blackburn but I feel Barrow is comparable. The movement of the "white 'professional' class" is based on job opportunities and further education, plus the social side of things (clubs, bars etc).

It is not because Muslims are moving in.

[Mattyblue]

Are you suggesting people are leaving Blackburn because of immigration?

I'm not from Blackburn but I feel Barrow is comparable. The movement of the "white 'professional' class" is based on job opportunities and further education, not because Muslims are moving in.

If they were moving in large numbers down south or to other job hubs, then I would agree with you.

However, places like the Ribble Valley, Rishton, Preston, South Ribble and other places nearby are awash with ex-Blackburners.

[LeChuck]

I know Preston is a good night out, probably due to the UCLAN being there. I can understand why people would rather live there.

What does Blackburn have to keep professional young people in the town?

[JC4LAB]

Attended an Indian wedding this weekend........Indian weddings are really good if you get the chance to go to one if only for the topnotch curry ..The Bollywood disco they had was very good I must say...

[DE.]

The problem is Blackburn is quickly heading towards a 50% Muslim population (the highest proportion in the UK outside parts of east London.

This divide is getting MORE not less entrenched and the unpalatable truth is that the white 'professional' class of Blackburn have left the town in droves and will continue to do so. I would like those that live in the area to argue against that statement.

The suburbs of north Blackburn- Revidge, Witton, Pleckgate, Beardwood, Lammack are seeing a rapid transformation as the white population leave, an estate agent friend of mine told me that it is becoming almost unheard of to oversee purchases from non-Muslims in these areas. The closing of public houses in these areas- at a much quicker rate than other parts of the borough is a visible example of that.

This coupled with the almost exclusively Muslim areas of 'inner Blackburn' Whalley Range, Audley, Queen's Park, Brookhouse, Bastwell, Little Harwood means that Blackburn's identity has been competely transformed in a few generations.

This is not integration, this is a complete failure of multi culturalist dogma to see the vast differences between the long established communites of Blackburn and those that arrived here 40/50 years ago. It is simply the replacement of one mono-cultural society with another.

In 30 years time, it is highly likely that the only residents of Blackburn will be those on lower incomes and or in social housing, the elderly and those of an Islamic background.

'White flight' is real and is hapenning across the town. Is that what we wanted from immigration?

I had the misfortune of living in Rochdale for 3 years and had ample experience of the racial tensions rife within the town (certainly extending to Manchester). I don't disagree that there are severe problems in the North with immigration, but I don't think this argument makes it okay to ban Muslim women from wearing veils. As I said in my original post, there are far more pressing issues to be concerned about - and that includes the failure of the immigration policy in numerous parts of the country.

[Al]

Are you suggesting people are leaving Blackburn because of immigration?

I'm not from Blackburn but I feel Barrow is comparable. The movement of the "white 'professional' class" is based on job opportunities and further education, plus the social side of things (clubs, bars etc).

It is not because Muslims are moving in.

If you believe that you are deluded. When the muslims move in the value of the property dives. True wether you like it or not and the indiginous population move out quickly to avoid losing money. I have had to make one such move myself. It's not racialism, it's sound common sense.

[Mattyblue]

If you believe that you are deluded. When the muslims move in the value of the property dives. True wether you like it or not and the indiginous population move out quickly to avoid losing money. I have had to make one such move myself. It's not racialism, it's sound common sense.

I'm sure you will be hit with the racism stick for that comment.

All I would say on that, ask any Blackburn based estage agent off the record if what Al says is true, you will find he is correct. I am sure what Al is saying will be derided as 'urban myth', but the cold numbers speak for themselves as many residents I know have had to make tough and quick decisions on their finances.

The actual reality of the situation in Blackburn is not something you will read in the guardian.

[bellamy11]

What does Blackburn have to keep professional young people in the town?

Almost naff all, LeChuck.

[JAL]

Have you ever tried conducting a one on one interview with a woman wearing a veil? Parents' evenings are very difficult when women cover their faces, especially if their command of English is not good. You want to make sure they understand why their child is not doing as well as possible and yet are not sure how much of what you say they are taking in because there are no clues in their facial expressions. I find it tremendously hard work and whilst i do not wish to start banning items of clothing I do wish women would be more sensible about where they wear veils.

May I suggest next time that you put your specially selected veil on gumboots and proceed to conduct the interview in sign language showing one thumb down for poor work then end on a positive with one thumb up, point to the exit and wave them off - next.

[ABBEY]

Chucks if you think white flight doesn't exist then you have no idea...they buy end houses and then people go asap and they buy the middle ones by pressurising tactics .don't reply with it doesn't happen because it does.

[ABBEY]

I took a shortcut past the Khyber yesterday..there were 16 cars and vans parked half on the pavement and half in the road ,on DOUBLE YELLOWS! Walking past were two traffic wardens and front of me were 2 police vans! NONE of the cars got tickets !!

[Blue n White Rover]

I took a shortcut past the Khyber yesterday..there were 16 cars and vans parked half on the pavement and half in the road ,on DOUBLE YELLOWS! Walking past were two traffic wardens and front of me were 2 police vans! NONE of the cars got tickets !!

And...What has that got to do with the subject...?

[ABBEY]

what has your post?

it ws a bit better tonight ,only 12 cars parked. why do the people on whalley range not need to adhere to the laws of our land? I park on yellows i expect a parking ticket.

[colin]

As this thread has diverted from a mathematical question I just thought I'd point out that today (13th October) is Margaret Thatcher's 85th Birthday.

She must be really pleased that:

(A) There are a load of celebrating Scousers &

(B ) There are a load of celebrating miners.

[Paul]

Brilliant Colin

[colin]

I took a shortcut past the Khyber yesterday..there were 16 cars and vans parked half on the pavement and half in the road ,on DOUBLE YELLOWS! Walking past were two traffic wardens and front of me were 2 police vans! NONE of the cars got tickets !!

Why don't you make your complaint to Blackburn With Darwen Borough Council? There's not much point grumbling on here.

Unless you have, in which case apologies.

Cheers

Colin

[Blue n White Rover]

what has your post?

it ws a bit better tonight ,only 12 cars parked. why do the people on whalley range not need to adhere to the laws of our land? I park on yellows i expect a parking ticket.

You still haven't answered my question Abbey...