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As things stand these are weaker than us:

Hull, Portsmouth, Burnley, Wolves, Wigan, Birmingham, Sunderland and to a certain extent maybe Stoke and West Ham aswell.

Old News.

Chamak's boss has always said this, but Chamakh insists that he would like to go to Sunderland and not only Arsenal. His biggest dream is to play in the EPL.

Looks like they're just trying to stop him leaving to me and being more than a little underhand about it. They know he wants out but if they just say no he'll be very unhappy...so they've told him he can leave, then keep throwing obsticles in the way.

The said they want the issue sorted by the 22/23rd of July. The players says this is fine, and if Arsenal don't come in for him before then he'll go to Sunderland. Their manager then says "oh, you can't go there."

In reality it should have nothing to do with his manager who his next club might be, especially as they're not even playing in the same league so there's no issue about strengthening a rival.

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We have sold our best player and we haven't replaced him.

McCarthy and Roberts haven't been good enough for two seasons now, why on earth would that change with an extra pre season under their belts?

Best Player how?

But that is a vicious cycle because if he plays constantly then he stays fit. For some reason he finds the right positions to score goals easily and it doesn't matter how "overweight" he is because he scores goals (which is what we are currently trying to buy). Penalties still count as goals by the way, they aren't a forgone conclusion even though they are easier.

Santa Cruz was a quality player in that first season but did nothing prior to it or last season.

Spot on Modes

I agree. We didn't have Santa Cruz last season, the hysterics are unnecessary.

Some one with abit of sense.

No you're spot on, we didn't have him last season. How did last season go again?

We are yet to replace Bentleys creativity, as well as Santa Cruzs' goals. Santa Cruz still scored some key goals for us last season, and though it is only an opinion, I think him staying in January gave the fans and club a huge lift which may (though we'll never know) have had a hand in us pulling out of the mess we were in.

Santa Cruz caused the fans and players un-rest all season with his constant 'wishes to move'. Instead of playing under injections he decided to get fit for his new club, unlike Dunn who played as long as he could!

Last season went - with Santa Cruz - 19th

Without him - 15th

Key goals? He scored 4 league goals (1 in a loss to United, 1 in a loss to Liverpool, 1 in a win at Everton & 1 in a win at Newcastle) - SO A TOTAL OF 1 LEAGUE GOAL SINCE SAM CAME IN, in a defeat to United - Without his goals (full season) we would of been 4pts worse off - still in 15th

Without Benni - we would of been 8pts worse off - relegated instead of Newcastle

Benni Since Sam took over - 9 goals, in 18 games - or 10 goals & 3 assists in 28 games (10 as sub)

Since Sam took over

Benni - 14 starts, 4 subs - Total mins - 1217 - 8 goals - Av 1.6 games per goal

RSC - 4 Starts, 3 subs - Total mins - 414 - 1 goal - Av 4.6 games per goal..........................

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In reality it should have nothing to do with his manager who his next club might be, especially as they're not even playing in the same league so there's no issue about strengthening a rival.

But his manager wants a player out of the deal with Arsenal - Silvestre - so that's why he wants that move to happen.

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Chamakh's boss thinks he will go to a club 'big enough' for him and rules out Sunderland...still no mention of Rovers. Think it is cash-plus-Silvestre from Arsenal for Chamakh if you read between the lines.

http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/breves2009/...sunderland.html

It's not so much that he thinks he will, more that he understands why Chamakh might want to leave, but not why he would want to leave to go to a club like Sunderland. Bordeaux will just want the money, they can't keep him at this point, so they won't be turning down any bids that meet their valuation, certainly not from abroad.

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Again you confirm your role of hideously bias spin doctor.

Since Sam took over

Benni - 14 starts, 4 subs - Total mins - 1217 - 8 goals - Av 1.6 games per goal

RSC - 4 Starts, 3 subs - Total mins - 414 - 1 goal - Av 4.6 games per goal..........................

:lol:

Who is the spin doctor?! :lol::P;)

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There is one or two disillusioned people on here, and I hope to god I'm wrong, but I'm still concerened that as things stand, we are one of the weaker teams in the league.

You know the last time I looked at the "S" in BRFCS stood for "Supporters". With some of the comments on here if we were involved in a war they may well be shot for being 5th columnists (and to save you looking it up --- a group of people who act traitorously and subversively out of a secret sympathy with an enemy) --- instead try looking up "Lord Haw Haw".

Having an opinion is great and I guess listening to opposite opinions is stimulating but only up to a point. You're entitled to your shout like the rest of us but this constant doom sh!te is wearing me down.

We finished a good side last year, no one who played in that side has left, injuries are being fixed and we have bought some good young prospects, we have dosh in the bank and we have a manager who isn't prepared to p!ss it up a wall on a panic buy.

Chill dude for G*d's sake and take a prozac or something.

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I hope this is old news

http://www.kickoff.com/static/news/article.php?id=9924

I think Benni still has something to offer us, and as Hughesy rightly pointed out those goals/points saved us but for some reason I just don't think him and Sam are on the same page

when you consider all the noise media claimed surrounded rovers under ince's reign (with benni in the middle) I wonder if he's on anyone's page..

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socngill Premier League

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I hope this is old news

http://www.kickoff.com/static/news/article.php?id=9924

I think Benni still has something to offer us, and as Hughesy rightly pointed out those goals/points saved us but for some reason I just don't think him and Sam are on the same page

I like that they make a point of stating he only played 27 minutes in one of our friendlies. Had they bothered to check they would have noticed it was the second of two 45 minute games in which Benni played the whole of the first one and then 27 mins of the second. He was one of a few players to get more than just the 45 minutes.

That alone makes me think it is making a story out of nothing.

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You know the last time I looked at the "S" in BRFCS stood for "Supporters". With some of the comments on here if we were involved in a war they may well be shot for being 5th columnists (and to save you looking it up --- a group of people who act traitorously and subversively out of a secret sympathy with an enemy) --- instead try looking up "Lord Haw Haw".

Having an opinion is great and I guess listening to opposite opinions is stimulating but only up to a point. You're entitled to your shout like the rest of us but this constant doom sh!te is wearing me down.

We finished a good side last year, no one who played in that side has left, injuries are being fixed and we have bought some good young prospects, we have dosh in the bank and we have a manager who isn't prepared to p!ss it up a wall on a panic buy.

Chill dude for G*d's sake and take a prozac or something.

But Shillito's spot on. As things stand we are one of the weaker teams in the league. There's nothing wrong with saying that at all. However, there's still plenty of time left to strengthen, we seem to have money available as well, so I'm a lot more confident everything will work out ok than I was this time last year.

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socngill Premier League

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But Shillito's spot on. As things stand we are one of the weaker teams in the league. There's nothing wrong with saying that at all. However, there's still plenty of time left to strengthen, we seem to have money available as well, so I'm a lot more confident everything will work out ok than I was this time last year.

True, but I think people (including me) are taking Di Santo as a done deal. If he doesn't turn up and we don't get a new striker, then yes I think we will be in a weak position (up front).

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Last season we had Santa Cruz, McCarthy, Roberts, Derbyshire, not 'Benni and Samba.'

The situation remains simple, as things stand we are weaker than last season. We have sold our best player and we haven't replaced him. McCarthy and Roberts haven't been good enough for two seasons now, why on earth would that change with an extra pre season under their belts?

RSC was a waste last season and might as well not even have been on the bench. Converting a wage sucking slacker into a pile of cash made us a stronger team.

Derbyshire was a good squad player but spent the last half of the season, the half of the season that saved us, in Greece.

McCarthy and Roberts are our strikers. Fit, they do very well. Not so fit, then we are no worse off than we were at the beginning of Sam taking the managerial job. And we are better off in that we have the resources, used wisely, to add a striker or two.

So we are hardly a weaker team than we were last year.

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As things stand these are weaker than us:

Hull, Portsmouth, Burnley, Wolves, Wigan, Birmingham, Sunderland and to a certain extent maybe Stoke and West Ham aswell.

Stoke and West Ham, at which point did we overtake them? Sell Santa Cruz and we're better than two teams who finished comfortably ahead of us? Birmingham have, and Sunderland will spend big this summer, so they too are very questionable. I can live with Hull, Pompey and MAYBE Wigan, depending on how the new manager does. Newly promoted teams always leave me nervous due to the flyers they can get off to, so again, tread cautiously.

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You know the last time I looked at the "S" in BRFCS stood for "Supporters". With some of the comments on here if we were involved in a war they may well be shot for being 5th columnists (and to save you looking it up --- a group of people who act traitorously and subversively out of a secret sympathy with an enemy) --- instead try looking up "Lord Haw Haw".

Having an opinion is great and I guess listening to opposite opinions is stimulating but only up to a point. You're entitled to your shout like the rest of us but this constant doom sh!te is wearing me down.

We finished a good side last year, no one who played in that side has left, injuries are being fixed and we have bought some good young prospects, we have dosh in the bank and we have a manager who isn't prepared to p!ss it up a wall on a panic buy.

Chill dude for G*d's sake and take a prozac or something.

Really, I was starting to think it stood for ''Stupid.''

You're mistaking negativity for STATING THE BLOODY OBVIOUS. It's amazing how quickly people forget how good a player is once he's gone. I would have loved Santa Cruz to stay, as the harsh reality is we won't get someone as good as him to replace him. That would be fine, if we could get a good striker and a good creative midfielder in, but it doesn't look like we will.

That fact, together with the fact teams around us seem to have the resources/ or are already down the line with strengthening their squads, leaves us, as things stand, in a very vulnerable position.

For me, the squad is the same that finished the season, minus RSC. The new guys are un heard of, and could be complete flops, or complete gems. We all want the latter but I know where the safe odds are....

How people can sit here and say we are stronger is beyond me, as anyone with half a brain/ no blue and white tinted specs on, can see WE ARE NOT.

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Stoke and West Ham, at which point did we overtake them? Sell Santa Cruz and we're better than two teams who finished comfortably ahead of us? Birmingham have, and Sunderland will spend big this summer, so they too are very questionable. I can live with Hull, Pompey and MAYBE Wigan, depending on how the new manager does. Newly promoted teams always leave me nervous due to the flyers they can get off to, so again, tread cautiously.

Excuse me mr shilito!

We became better than both Stoke and West Ham after Sam was appointed.

Sunderland will spend big? Nothing is saying they will get the players they want and become exceptionally better than last season. They have lost Cisse.

We are also not finished spending our dough. From your post i am reading that it is meaningless to say whether we are weaker or better than last season before we are done spending? Or how our manager does?

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Nicko, you think there is any chance of us holding out to Jan, with benni, jr, gally, diouf, plus di santo?...

I hope not.

There is money to spend and a desire to spend it...but on the right striker.

Got to say we are moving from the Patience time zone to the Panic time zone.

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