[Archived] Blackburn Rovers Transfer Topic

[LeftWinger]

"Many" being one?

He's just trying to drive his price up if Woy is reading.

[OJRovers]

I'd sell Andrews for £2m put the money towards Sam's 2 strikers/1 midfielder

We have Emerton/Dunn/Reid back from injury plus N'Zonzi for the middle, also Warnock will be able to play there if we put Givet at LB.

That £2m could be the difference between us being able to afford Bent/Gignac/Cardoza or not.

[alexanders]

I am actually warming to the idea of letting Andrews go, so that we can bring on a younger player in Judge.

[Lathund]

Allardyce - rates Andrews that highly as a centre midfielder that he played him at right back even when the only alternatives were a 39 year old or Mokoena.

What was the alternative at right back?

[gazsimm]

I am actually warming to the idea of letting Andrews go, so that we can bring on a younger player in Judge.

it makes sense, plus we could add the money we get for andrews to the search for a new forward (DARREN BENT)

[T4E]

What was the alternative at right back?

Ooijer, Simpson or Khizanishvili?

[alexanders]

Simpson

Keith Andrew's is 10x the player Simpson was, and he was playing in his right position.

[Lathund]

Ooijer, Simpson or Khizanishvili?

Ooijer was injured, else it wouldn't have been an issue.

Zurab at rb? Forgotten the last time we tried that? Simpson isn't any good. I know his loan was terminated before the end of the season, so don't know if he was even available at the time.

Either way my point is that he wasn't played at RB because Sam rates Tugay/Mokoena higher, but because he rates Andrews higher at RB than Zurab, Simpson or Mokoena.

[briansol]

I am actually warming to the idea of letting Andrews go, so that we can bring on a younger player in Judge.

But Judge is a right winger, not a central midfielder. He is also small and not likely to be able to compete in the air centrally.

The problem is not that Andrews is a very good player, He is adequate. Our main problem is that the rest of the central midfield is not good enough or injury proned. I'd rather get rid of Dunn (whose legs have gone) or Reid (how long will he stay fit or will be the same player again?). Grella was worse than Andrews last year, but I expect improvements from him this year. Tugay is gone and though Mokoena is not going to be missed, there is a lot of questions mark over the central midfield. Why should we sell the only safe bet in the position? At least bring in some cover first.

Where would you get a proven premiership, all-action and goal scoring midfielder like Andrews for 2 mill? And with the ability to play right back as well

[JonnyH]

One if the reasons this his been rejected I suspect is Andrews filling in at RB last season. Sam knows he can't carry the biggest squad in the world and can't have two players per position. Players like Andrews that can competently play in multiple positions do have their value. I think if he hadn't oplayed RB

he would have gone. Who knows though, he still may.

[Blue blood]

We paid close to £1.8m with all the add-ons - he then became a full international, played a full premier season, and proved he can score goals from midfield. Why would he now only be worth about £200k more??

Because he wasn't worth what we paid for him in the first place!

Have to say I think Andrews peaked last season mainly due to his goals and ability to stay fit. If Sam thinks that he's a good chance of keeping at least one of our injury prone midfielders fit he should be carrying him all the way to Fulham. Heck, I'd carry him there.

Given that - whatever the much disputed fee - Sam got Diouf for a less than Andrews, it's a no brainer. I'd wager that Sam would get a better replacement in at either £1milliion or £2 million than Andrews, and there might be some money left for the transfer kitty. That's assuming Sam decides that we need to replace Andrews.

Edit - Andrews cannot competently play right back. Ok he scored a goal from there, but he was not competent. Just because the other alternatives at rb were even worse does not make Andrews competent. Reid can fill the right back slot if needs be - although admittedly I'm not happy with him being there either. Besides we've Emerton and Jacobsen to play there too so versatility shouldn't be an issue.

[Commondore]

If we could get 3 mill £ for Andrews I'd take the money and run to John Williams with it myself. Sure he did a job last season, but that was mainly from being free of injuries when no one else was. Replace him with Judge (+ Nzioni) and a decent new midfielder and we are definitely a stronger team than last season.

[LeChuck]

But Judge is a right winger, not a central midfielder. He is also small and not likely to be able to compete in the air centrally.

I'm fairly sure he plays centrally for the reserves sometimes, even out wide he's more of a right midfielder than a right winger (sounds pedantic but there is a notable difference!).

I must admit I don't recall Andrews winning anything in the air. By far his best attributes are that he's not injury prone and he's enthusiastic - both of which Judge can replace. 2 goals in 17 games suggests he can pop up with the odd goal like Andrews did as well.

[Taggart]

I am actually warming to the idea of letting Andrews go, so that we can bring on a younger player in Judge.

Andrews is easily replaced - if we get anything over 2.5 million for him, and Fulham are daft enough to pay it, let him go. He was bought as a box to box central midfielder, would rather have Nolan or sare I say it on a pay as you play deal, Barton.

[Hughesy]

Andrews is easily replaced - if we get anything over 2.5 million for him, and Fulham are daft enough to pay it, let him go. would rather have Nolan or dare I say it on a pay as you play deal, Barton.

I agree but many others no doubt wont!!

[roversfan1]

Andrews is easily replaced - if we get anything over 2.5 million for him, and Fulham are daft enough to pay it, let him go. He was bought as a box to box central midfielder, would rather have Nolan or sare I say it on a pay as you play deal, Barton.

Amen to that!

[Iceman]

My reasons for not wanting him at Ewood are nothing to do with the above but everything to do with the fact he wasnt/isnt good enough!

Anything £2m+ is good value and we should take it.

Yet we happy to see an injury duo of Dunn and Reid stay. Im sorry, but im sticking up for Keith Andrews. He doesnt ask to get picked, Sam picks the team as does Trappatoni. Andrews did a job, and a decent one at that. Now ask where was Reid all the time, or Dunny most of the time? Of course on treatment tables, not for the 1st time i may add. I dont think Andrews should start this season, but as a squad player we know we will have a fit player, who will be more than happy to play where Sam wants him to play. We dont want Andrews to play, we dont want Grella or Mokoena to have played. There were calls for Pedersen to be replaced. However our squad is so weak in terms of alternatives, that we have no other option to play these players. For how long can we afford to carry the likes of Reid and Dunn? Its simple, if Reid and Dunn break down again this season then JW will have to seriously have to think of ways to get rid. Andrews was commited to the cause, can the same be said of Benni despite being top scorer, or RSC who kept on moaning about wanting to leave? For me Andrews should be a squad player, but should not be sold if nobody is being lined up or if we think Reid will last for an entire season.

Andrews is easily replaced - if we get anything over 2.5 million for him, and Fulham are daft enough to pay it, let him go. He was bought as a box to box central midfielder, would rather have Nolan or sare I say it on a pay as you play deal, Barton.

Rubbish Taggart! Andrews gives 100 percent, despite lacking the ability of someone like Barton. Barton is talented, but at least Andrews will be on the field, out of trouble and happy to just be a squad player. Will Barton be happy sitting on our bench, the same applies to Nolan.

[unluckymorton]

Yet we happy to see an injury duo of Dunn and Reid stay. Im sorry, but im sticking up for Keith Andrews. He doesnt ask to get picked, Sam picks the team as does Trappatoni. Andrews did a job, and a decent one at that. Now ask where was Reid all the time, or Dunny most of the time? Of course on treatment tables, not for the 1st time i may add. I dont think Andrews should start this season, but as a squad player we know we will have a fit player, who will be more than happy to play where Sam wants him to play. We dont want Andrews to play, we dont want Grella or Mokoena to have played. There were calls for Pedersen to be replaced. However our squad is so weak in terms of alternatives, that we have no other option to play these players. For how long can we afford to carry the likes of Reid and Dunn? Its simple, if Reid and Dunn break down again this season then JW will have to seriously have to think of ways to get rid. Andrews was commited to the cause, can the same be said of Benni despite being top scorer, or RSC who kept on moaning about wanting to leave? For me Andrews should be a squad player, but should not be sold if nobody is being lined up or if we think Reid will last for an entire season.

I'm with you Iceman, Emerton used, and will this season, have fans on his back similar to Andrews. There is always one in the squad. I'd keep Andrews as he did well towards the back end of the season and bagged a couple of goals in the process.

[Roversider]

What is it with people getting at Andrews? It smells very much of the 'Mark Atkins is rubbish' stuff, football is a matter of opinion and I dare say that the views of several managers including an international one that Keith Andrews is a good player may mean more than some of the close-minded views of some fans.

Everyone has an opinion, no doubt us Andrews supporters will get slaughtered as usual but interestingly we seem to be more in tune with the man who is the key decider. Mind you, I bet you dislike Sam as well ....

[Iceman]

Its funny that for most part, with the exception of a few players the rest of the squad last season were rubbish. Based on that more of the squad should be sold, if Andrews performances are being ridiculed.

[tcj_jones]

We needed an overhaul of centre midfield by the end of last season, that is clear to see.

We've already managed to move Mokoena and Tugay on. If we can get some money for Andrews and put his fee toward what we already have for a top CM, then we'll have succeeded in slimming down a rather bloated midfield and, hopefully, added some quality. Dunn, Grella, N'zonzi and a new signing battling out for the first team, with Reid in reserve should he stay fit.

[Hi Mack]

For those who are suggesting Judge to play CM cant have seen the lad play!

He IS a Right winger, he would get totally dominated by Every midfield in the Premiership IF he played there.

I also expect Grella to play a bigger part this season. We only saw glimpses last season but i think he will be

a key player for us this season. If fit Dunn can make the difference in a game.....his positive runs unsettle defences

and cause problems.

[Torgeir]

For those who are suggesting Judge to play CM cant have seen the lad play!

He IS a Right winger, he would get totally dominated by Every midfield in the Premiership IF he played there.

I also expect Grella to play a bigger part this season. We only saw glimpses last season but i think he will be

a key player for us this season. If fit Dunn can make the difference in a game.....his positive runs unsettle defences

and cause problems.

The biggest mistake we can possibly do is start next season with Dunn and Grella as our first choice pairing with N'Zonzi as backup. It'll be a lot worse than not signing a striker. That said I don't mind Andrews leaving as he's relatively easily replaced but with how the market is we should hold out for £3-3.5 million for the Irish international.

[Kelbo]

Could Judge replace KA?

Danny Murphy Could

[roversfan1]

Yet we happy to see an injury duo of Dunn and Reid stay.

I never said that at all - I cant understand the story out the other day saying that we were thinking of opening talks on new deals!! Reid will never be the same player and Dunn shouldnt have been brought back, Im not saying I would have Andrews out and rely on Dunn and Reid at all. I would rather not spend £11m on a striker and cross our fingers on the fitness of Dunn and Reid - I would rather spend £5m or £6m on a striker and spend the rest (plus anything gained from Andrews) on other CM's!!

Also I think that we will see a better season from Grella this time round but that still leaves us woefully short. IF we sell Andrews I would be very unhappy if we didnt spend that money on replacement midfielders but to keep him because he is the best of a bad bunch doesnt seem to be very wise either!