[Archived] Blackburn Rovers Transfer Topic

[RibbleValleyRover]

Realistically though, if he's on a free in January there will be bigger clubs after him and the chances of him coming here will be very slim...

Pretty much impossible i'd say.

Honestly don't think we will be able to bring in a better striker than Poggy, certainly from the names listed, Zigic, Jones etc I think he is a better player than all of them. Personally i'd try and negotiate them down a bit, however I can't see us paying the fee thats being talked about so its looking like we will move on, probably to that fat, lazy POS Mido.

Selling your best striker for a bumper profit and finding out the money is basically worthless as there are no suitable replacements out there. It could only happen to us...

[steverovers]

Eh? That doesn't make sense Fife. Why would we sell him after 6 months? Or are you suggesting he'd be free in Janurary, which also makes no sense as we'd have him sign at least a 3 year contract.

Even if we do sell him, we'd only sell him with profit. Where's the issue?

The main issue is that we are paying 9m now instead of nothing in 6 months. But in 6 months, bigger clubs with bigger wages will be looking at him.

Yes, and those few months could be the difference in us staying in the premiership!

[mellison24]

Did you know that Tugay turned us down the year before he joined? Doesn't seem as important now, does it?

EXCELLENT POINT!!

Can I just add a little into the 'midfielders debate'? And I understand I may be brutally murdered with an avacado as a result.....but what about Gally? His distribution against Leeds was 2nd only to Dunny's! But when he moved up front, he faded a bit. I think he is the 'forward thinker' in midfield we may need, should Dunny get injured.....

*cowers from predicted barrage of rotten fruit*

[steverovers]

EXCELLENT POINT!!

Can I just add a little into the 'midfielders debate'? And I understand I may be brutally murdered with an avacado as a result.....but what about Gally? His distribution against Leeds was 2nd only to Dunny's! But when he moved up front, he faded a bit. I think he is the 'forward thinker' in midfield we may need, should Dunny get injured.....

*cowers from predicted barrage of rotten fruit*

And he can take a penalty!

[Fife Rover]

Er, no. He means that we're paying £9m for four months work.

Er no. Actually you have just repeated what I said in a different way. Oh and I make it nearer 5 months from August to January.

Paying £9m for a players services for just 5 months is not exactly good business.

[Blue n White Rover]

Yes, and those few months could be the difference in us staying in the premiership!

However, IF Poggy doesn't cut it in the Premiership, we'll have wasted £9million on a striker who we could have got for free in 6 months time. We are Blackburn Rovers, we rarely get to spend more than £4 million on a player, so when we do, we have to make sure we spend it wisely.

£9million on a the Russian lad is too much of a risk, drop the price or move on!

[Exiled_Rover]

Did you know that Tugay turned us down the year before he joined? Doesn't seem as important now, does it?

I've always hated him.

[Amo]

Er no. Actually you have just repeated what I said in a different way. Oh and I make it nearer 5 months from August to January.

Paying £9m for a players services for just 5 months is not exactly good business.

You were suggesting that he was LEAVING in January.

[Tom]

You know what confuses me about this whole Poggy thing? Zenit accepted a bid from us in January no?

either that price has gone up a lot or I see no problem, regardless of his contract he is either worth it or he isn't, interesting times.

[mark1875]

Er no. Actually you have just repeated what I said in a different way. Oh and I make it nearer 5 months from August to January.

Paying £9m for a players services for just 5 months is not exactly good business.

we wouldnt be paying £9m for 5 months, we would probably sign him on a 3 year contract, so thats not 5 months?

we can buy him now for approx 9m or we can wait till he becomes free in January and more than likely lose him to a bigger club

therfore we are not paying 9m for 5 months - we are paying 9m to make him our player for a few seasons, which is what will happen whoever we sign

[Mandrake]

What is it that people don't understand here? Yes, it is a high price - too high, but Blackburn will NEVER get this player on a free..then he's going somewhere else, and for way bigger wages.

I say, he is the best gamble to take by far, also considering his age. If it goes bad, we can probably recoup atleast 5 million in my opinion.

And NO, I say no to buying him for 9 million, but if we can negotiate it down to say 6 million...I say go for it.

The deal for Pobgreniak is now or never. Sam will buy another striker this window if not. And in my opinion, only Kenwyne Jones is a viable alternative to Poggy. (Many things considered).

[Amo]

Why wouldn't a "bigger club" just pay the £9m now, if they wanted him?

[mark1875]

Why wouldn't a "bigger club" just pay the £9m now, if they wanted him?

same reason we probably wont?

but they can afford to take the chance and wait - where as we can't take that risk

i would imagine

[DeadlyDirk]

Er no. Actually you have just repeated what I said in a different way. Oh and I make it nearer 5 months from August to January.

Paying £9m for a players services for just 5 months is not exactly good business.

It isn't great but it depends on who else is out there, if the quality isn't available and we have to settle for second best then being in a relegation battle losing valuable position prize money not to mention the risk of actually going down isn't good business either.

If there is nobody out there and we decide we need him then we have to go for it assuming we have the 9m to spend on him, there is no point saying 9m is too much for someone with their contract expiring, let's spend 9m on someone with a 3 year contract still to run who isn't as good.

If there is a better player that we can get for the money we have available then we should go for it but if Sam thinks this is the man to go for then let's just pay it and get it over with.

Silly deal with his contract running out but for 9m we apparantley couldn't get the 10m rated Davies, the 16m Bent or the 12m Crouch. Don't they want a lot of money for Cardoza? Negredo probably wants a better club, Zigic is a similiar sort of price isn't he and that deal never seemed to materialise anyway, Chamankah (sp?) seems to be Arsenal or Sunderland bound.

If we had Di Santo signed it would be a start but I have to admit I'm starting to panic a little, not because we don't have time to get someone in because we still do but just because there seems to be a very limited range of strikers available in our price range and there are plenty of clubs looking for them who have a better reputation than us and are likely to pay higher wages.

[Mandrake]

Bigger clubs have other great players as options - Blackburn Rovers now have Pavel P, and Kenwyne Jones at a stretch. Other than that you have players (who would take us nowhere) like gallagher, zigic, davies at this age, mido, bent at his insane price and other players who I couldn't be bothered with.

[S15]

It's not worth discussing. The only people who would pay £9m for someone that is :

1. 120% UNPROVEN in the environment they are required in,

2. FREE IN LESS THAN 5 MONTHS

are complete, and utter morons.

[Balwer]

Really have to add my support to the idea that the contract expiring shortly means nothing. As has been said, we would never get him on a free, so that doesn't come into it from our perspective. The only thing it changes is potentially forcing the price down by calling Zenit's bluff.

Of course, another good point was raised that Zenit has previously accepted a bid of ours in January for the same player. So surely that precedent coupled with the potential of Zenit losing him for free puts us on a decent footing to negotiate with. If only there were plenty of other options out there for us to use as leverage.

[Mandrake]

Ofc, but at 6 million, drink the vodka, and sign the deal. Spend the money before it disapperas in the budget, as we have seen countless of times.

[Fife Rover]

Eh? That doesn't make sense Fife. Why would we sell him after 6 months? Or are you suggesting he'd be free in Janurary, which also makes no sense as we'd have him sign at least a 3 year contract.

Even if we do sell him, we'd only sell him with profit. Where's the issue?

The main issue is that we are paying 9m now instead of nothing in 6 months. But in 6 months, bigger clubs with bigger wages will be looking at him.

Oh deary me! you're missing my point as well. My point is that it would be completely stupid for Rovers to pay £9m now and only get 5 months use out of the player, irrespective of the fact that we would have him on a contract and be able to demand a fee for him. I am assuming that the player will have shown in the 5 months he is with us up to the January window that he is a very good player and well able to attract the attention of the big boys. One or more of them will take him away from us in January by paying a decent fee (let's say £15m) but then we have to start all over again looking for another top striker.

Is it worth all the hassle? Other top strikers will also get the impression that there is something radically wrong at Rovers and will not want to come to us. That is why I think we should only sign this player if he costs no more than £5m tops. Otherwise move on now to the next target.

[RibbleValleyRover]

It's not worth discussing. The only people who would pay £9m for someone that is :

1. 120% UNPROVEN in the environment they are required in,

2. FREE IN LESS THAN 5 MONTHS

are complete, and utter morons.

Who else is there Shillito? The only other option out there is probably Jones and i reckon he would cost at a minimum £10 million and he's not as good.

[couer_de_lion]

It's not worth discussing. The only people who would pay £9m for someone that is :

1. 120% UNPROVEN in the environment they are required in,

2. FREE IN LESS THAN 5 MONTHS

are complete, and utter morons.

Would this be a good time to mention Sparky signing De Jong?

[Blue n White Rover]

Who else is there Shillito? The only other option out there is probably Jones and i reckon he would cost at a minimum £10 million and he's not as good.

I don't give a toss about who the other options are, we cannot afford to spend £9million on a striker that is UNPROVEN and will be FREE in 6 months. If he is a flop then we have wasted £9million, then do we rely on Di Santo, Roberts and McCarthy to take us through the rest of the season?

We rarely get to spend this much money on a striker, and we cannot afford to waste it.

Would this be a good time to mention Sparky signing De Jong?

Sparky has money to burn, unfortunately, we don't. So it's irrelavant.

[BRFC1995]

Had to hold this back for fear of the story being lifted and gathering a life of its own...apparently that has already happened.

I have heard the Poggy fee would be in the region of £9 million which is frankly ridiculous. His contract is out soon, so you are being asked to pay £9 million for the privilege of having him for half-a-season or one window...

Unless that figure drops it is a total waste of money.

The fee would also explain why no-one has signed him this summer.

Said it before, say it again, this is a very tough time to be chasing strikers.

Hopefully Di Santo has a quiet night for Chelsea and heads north pronto.

Badly needed.

sam has 13m? to spend said he'd be willing to blow it all on the right striker, poggy is that man..........contract is utterly meaningless just pay the money we get our man on a 4 year deal. jobs a good'un.

don't want to drag things out to the point that man ure realise they can get a striker far better than owen for peanuts, christ liverpool and everton are desperate for strikers they'll all be in if his fee was 4m or less.

not like we are buying a player in the same scenario off burnley..as it would sicken me not to screw them into the ground on price. but in this scenario i don't care.

Would this be a good time to mention Sparky signing De Jong? :

don't get it???????de jong???

[Amo]

same reason we probably wont?

but they can afford to take the chance and wait - where as we can't take that risk

i would imagine

I'm saying that if Pogrebnyak really wanted to join a big club, he could let his contract wind down and leave. And if a big club really wanted him, £9m isn't a lot to spend compared to our humble kitty. I don't see why he isn't an option on a free transfer.

[RibbleValleyRover]

I don't give a toss about who the other options are, we cannot afford to spend £9million on a striker that is UNPROVEN and will be FREE in 6 months. If he is a flop then we have wasted £9million, then do we rely on Di Santo, Roberts and McCarthy to take us through the rest of the season?

Unproven in this league yes, but on the international and european stage he is far from unproven. Sam's initial idea was to go for someone who has a proven history in the premier league, some of the players he looked at:

Jones- Too pricey, deal subject to other deals happening.

Davies- Too pricey.

Gudjohnson- Too pricey

RVN- Too pricey, concerns over injuries.

Owen- Too pricey, injury concerns.

Crouch- Too pricey

Bent- Too pricey.

All players with premier league experience, all out of our budget or wouldn't come to this club.

The way i see it is, he is the best option we can get in terms of ability and to play in the system Sam wants. The free contract issue is a big one but lets face it when his contract expires we have no chance of getting him.

Every signing is a risk, however one thing i can say we cannot do nothing about the striker issue, we have to bring someone in.