[Archived] Blackburn Rovers Transfer Topic

[hi-jaq]

There is no way we can wait for Pogrebnyak on a free, because we simply will not get him!!! There will be other clubs that can offer him decent wages & European Competition, so in my eyes its a no brainer. Zenit were a nightmare to deal with for Arsenal & the rest of the clubs that were in for Arshavin, that deal took 6 months to complete & it took Arsenal a lot more money than they first thought.

Zenit are not skint, so they can afford to hang on to Pogrebnyak if we don't meet their valuation, regardless of how much that is, £6m / £8m / £9m... We need a striker, and a good one, we also need him quickly & for much much cheapness (by cheapness I mean in respect of the price people are paying for strikers & the fact that we need to spend on the midfield). Pogrebnyak is a viable option & we cant afford to waste time knobbing around with his club, just get in there thrash out a deal & get him in, simple!!!

If we get 2 seasons out of him I will be happy, although he will probably sign a 4 year contract, he needs to score goals & if he does that, we will be lucky if we have him that long... We aren't a top 6 club, unfortunately those days are gone for now, but we are taking steps in the right direction by looking at players with a good potential, in both playing & re-sale value terms. Players like him are our bread & butter, they come in have a season or 2 rocking the place & then we sell them for a massive profit, this is what happens... I dont care if he sees Rovers as a stepping stone, as long as he doesnt do what Roque did when he signed & go on record by saying "I want to be the new Alan Shearer", he would need to stick in more than 2 seasons for that!!!

If he comes for £7.5m, gets his head down, scores some goals & a 'bigger club' signs him in 2 years time for £18m, would anyone really complain, especially if he helps get us up into a top half of the table/Europen Competition finish... I very much doubt it!!!

(He might go the complete opposite & be a 5 goal a season flop, but we wont talk about that now!!! )

[mohelger]

What about Paul Gallagher in all of this.

Let's say the Di Santo loan is completed, and Zenit won't lower their asking price for Poggy.

Is there any indications that Sam would be willing to go into the new season with McCarthy, Di Santo, Roberts and Gallagher as the strikeforce?

Instead of paying an inflated price for another striker this summer; which again would mean that Gallagher would be 5th choice and won't get a realistic chance of first team football at Ewood (hence Sam's quotes that Gallagher will get a chance to prove himself).

[Nelson!]

We won't get Poggy because we all know how these Russians conduct their business. They wont drop their price and we will not pay 9 mill and 60k a week.

Di Santo will not come on loan because Anchovy will like the look of him and decide not to loan him out.

We'll end up with Kenwyne Jones and get relegated.

We're all doomed

I'm trying really hard not to type what I'm thinking, but trust me....it isn't pleasant.

Accyrover

Jones' goals have kept us up the past two seasons.

I'd say at this rate you're more likely to not get Jones (or anyone else you've got on your wishlist) and get relegated.

[Fife Rover]

The big boys will not go for Pogrebnyak as he's unproven, they'll leave the proving to teams like us then cherry pick next season, that's the way it is.

So with that logic we could agree the 9m fee but payable as an up front fee of say 4m and then give them a sell on for 5m. If they really think he's worth 9m on a 4 month residual contract they can hardly say the sell on would be too much of a risk else he wouldn't be worth the 9m in the first place. Pogrebnyak will be looking at us as a shop window so that works also.

The better he is the quicker he moves on and the quicker the Russians get their sell on. We profit as we get the rest of the transfer increase and we have the player for the season. If he fails then we haven't p*ssed 9m up the wall.

Now that makes sense and is in line with the way I was thinking. It is an unfortunate fact of life for clubs like Rovers and we have to live with it. There is just the one major worry though in going this way; and that is that when it comes to replacing the departed striker, all the potential replacements are going to look at Rovers record in recent years of attracting top strikers and not being able to keep them. They could very easily attribute this to there being something radically wrong in the way the club is managed, and decide against joining us for that reason which is always going to make the task of finding a good replacement so much more difficult. In the case of Poggy I believe he will be aiming for a quicker exit than any of our recently departed strikers. But then that is only my opinion and I could be wrong. I would be very pleased if that were so.

[tcj_jones]

I) Pay the money, get the girl and reap the immediate rewards, only for her to become fat and lazy when it matters most, spend your money and take the relationship for granted. Unfortunately, there's no way of knowing whether this will happen until it's too late!

[roversmad95]

We´ll end up with Leroy Lita free and Bobby Zamora. Very depressed feeling because dream of Poggy and di Santo is crashing.

dont lose hope.... think positive and positive things will happen...

we could still get both or even 2 different guys(not the ones above)... still time yet.....

[den]

I keep saying it, but if the player you want is available and you have the money, then pay it. Poggy, Davies or anyone.

That's what the big teams do. Fergy was always ready to pay whatever it took to get the best. Liverpool haven't done that for a long, long time and that's why United overtook them.

[Oklahoma]

Gally will have to prove in training and in every opportunity he has that he deserves to be in the team.

[Tom]

What about Paul Gallagher in all of this.

Let's say the Di Santo loan is completed, and Zenit won't lower their asking price for Poggy.

Is there any indications that Sam would be willing to go into the new season with McCarthy, Di Santo, Roberts and Gallagher as the strikeforce?

Instead of paying an inflated price for another striker this summer; which again would mean that Gallagher would be 5th choice and won't get a realistic chance of first team football at Ewood (hence Sam's quotes that Gallagher will get a chance to prove himself).

If we go into the season with Gally as 4th choice striker then we'd be in real trouble.

[RovertheHill]

Nicko is our Chelsea chum having his medical today?

[roversmad95]

Jones' goals have kept us up the past two seasons.

I'd say at this rate you're more likely to not get Jones (or anyone else you've got on your wishlist) and get relegated.

this is a rovers web site please keep you nasty post to your own clubs web site....

thanks!

[Mandrake]

If Gally is amongst the 4 strikers, we simply cannot call it a strikeforce...im so tired of Paul Gallagher...do we really care more for him to succeed rather than succeeding as a club? Sell him already - to a championship team who actually can use the guy...I get more and more annoyed as I write this.....

[Flopsy]

j) You get home and find the girls name is Geoffrey, a builder from Cleethorpes

[socngill]

What about Paul Gallagher in all of this.

Let's say the Di Santo loan is completed, and Zenit won't lower their asking price for Poggy.

Is there any indications that Sam would be willing to go into the new season with McCarthy, Di Santo, Roberts and Gallagher as the strikeforce?

Instead of paying an inflated price for another striker this summer; which again would mean that Gallagher would be 5th choice and won't get a realistic chance of first team football at Ewood (hence Sam's quotes that Gallagher will get a chance to prove himself).

I have been thinking the same thing. No point in telling Gally he will get his chance to prove himself and then bring in two more strikers forcing Gally out of the first team equation. Makes a mockery of saying we will give him the ability to prove himself. Unless Sam really does go on pre-season and training and pickes him ahead of all the others. When was the last time any managed did that????

[Grez]

does anyone else think that gally may get his chance on the left in a 4-3-3 lineup? Would make sense as to why treacy was allowed to leave.

[nicko]

Nicko is our Chelsea chum having his medical today?

I'm not even sure he is back in the country yet...

[Amo]

I approve of the idea of having Gallagher in midfield or playing in the hole in a 4-3-1-2. Dunn is our best attacking midfielder, but we'll be hard-pressed to get 15-20 games out of him a season, and Sam won't be buying any other midfielders (not when he's rewarding Andrews with a new contract). So Gallagher is an option.

Nicko - Can you see us haggling this £9m fee down? Didn't Zenit originally want £22m for Arshavin, but settled for £15m? Or am I getting my facts wrong?

[Taggart]

Jones' goals have kept us up the past two seasons.

I'd say at this rate you're more likely to not get Jones (or anyone else you've got on your wishlist) and get relegated.

I`d say at the rate Sunderland are trying to do business and spending cash, it will be hilarious when they fail and fall down into championship football.

As someone else has said, it`s a BRFC board, we don`t really want to be listening to your posts about BRFC being relegated

[socngill]

Sky Sports are linking us to Chimbonda. Again.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11676_5456151,00.html

[LeChuck]

does anyone else think that gally may get his chance on the left in a 4-3-3 lineup? Would make sense as to why treacy was allowed to leave.

I'm convinced that sort of role is his most likely position if he does get a chance. He could maybe play the role Benni was last season (deep striker behind a target man), but I'm certain Sam is looking at him as an extra option out wide or as an attacking midfielder.

[Ricky]

Nelson, please note that this is a brfc transfer topic. Please can you not post Sunderland transfer info in this thread, please use that other premier league happenings for that.

Brfc chat only, otherwise warnings will follow, lets at least try to make this thread slightly manageable.

[nicko]

Sky Sports are linking us to Chimbonda. Again.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11676_5456151,00.html

The story is coming from Spurs...which tells you they want rid. It's probably been leaked to get Hull City to increase their interest...they are possibly favourites for him.

Nicko - Can you see us haggling this £9m fee down? Didn't Zenit originally want £22m for Arshavin, but settled for £15m? Or am I getting my facts wrong?

I can't see it happeneing at £9 million, so if the price doesn't drop the player stays where he is...and they get nothing.

Other fish in the sea, etc.

[DeadlyDirk]

The story is coming from Spurs...which tells you they want rid. It's probably been leaked to get Hull City to increase their interest...they are possibly favourites for him.

I can't see it happeneing at £9 million, so if the price doesn't drop the player stays where he is...and they get nothing.

Other fish in the sea, etc.

Any idea on who these other fish might be?

[Bobby G]

nicko, Im surprised by now you arent convinced we are in a poor situation in our summer dealings in terms of one or two signings for up front.

I dont think there are many other fish in the sea, or at least not any practical ones. Either they are too old, too expensive or interested in bigger clubs.

He has been one of the first feasible options out there.

[Exiled_Rover]

Once again Rovers are trying to do business in a ridiculous market - although it's frustrating as a fan (especially when other clubs of similar stature throw money around like there's no tomorrow) you can understand where the owners are coming from.

With the way it's shaking out we've got to hope that Eddie Van Halen and Hoillet are the bee's knees, that Gallagher is rejuvinated and that Judge and/or Doran are good enough to play a role as a squad player. Otherwise it is very much doom and gloom. Thankfully I think we'll stay up regardless, but only through a brand of football that I'd struggle to watch from the outset (I accepted we had to play the way we did at the end of last season to pick up points, but at the end of the day I watch football to be entertained).