[Archived] Blackburn Rovers Transfer Topic

[braddock]

Yes, but that was BC.

[saxo1man30]

I think he is one of those in the 'we'll get back to you when stop talking silly figures' file.

i think it`s going to be a while still before anything gets moving in the market, though if city seal tevez`s signature and possibly adebayor`s in the next week or so, then they`ll have some players to move out. i doubt we`d be interested though in anything more than a loan deal for one of their strikers, as even the like`s of caicedo and bellamy are likely on 80,000 a week.

to me, for rovers to solve our strike problem, we`d have to willing to pay out 50-60,000 a week on somebody and the rest of the squad would have to accept it as nesessery that one player earns more than they do. i`ll bet that was the case with roque anyway.

[Hughesy]

Bent would b a very good signing but I think he will prove too expensive. Could maybe wipe Spurs debt as part of the deal tho??

[den]

i think it`s going to be a while still before anything gets moving in the market, though if city seal tevez`s signature and possibly adebayor`s in the next week or so, then they`ll have some players to move out. i doubt we`d be interested though in anything more than a loan deal for one of their strikers.

City wont be releasing any strikers of any quality. God forbid we go anywhere near there.

[nicko]

Bent would b a very good signing but I think he will prove too expensive. Could maybe wipe Spurs debt as part of the deal tho??

£16 million fee, huge wages and richer Sunderland after him...

Can someone please tell Sky to stop asking stupid questions?

[Hughesy]

Can someone tell Sunderland & Spurs to get a move on and get the market moving please......

If Sunderland sign Crouch, then will they still be interested after signing Campbell?

[saxo1man30]

City wont be releasing any strikers of any quality. God forbid we go anywhere near there.

caicedo, bellamy, boijinov? a lot better quality than we currently have..

[Kelbo]

Would anyone notice?

I imagine he's been told to find himself a club.

Yes, but that was BC.

Before christ???

God, I knew they were old but not that old!!!

Tugay, come back young man

[nicko]

Can someone tell Sunderland & Spurs to get a move on and get the market moving please......

If Sunderland sign Crouch, then will they still be interested after signing Campbell?

Sunderland want Bent and Crouch...Campbell is a support act...a lightweight as well, as it happens.

[DeadlyDirk]

£16 million fee, huge wages and richer Sunderland after him...

Can someone please tell Sky to stop asking stupid questions?

I thought it was very odd that Bent was the only player they chose to namedrop.

Hughesy makes an interesting point though, do Spuds owe us anything for Bentley for still which could help keep the price down in a way?

Not sure if I want us to blow our entire budget on Bent, certainly does seem hard finding a good striker at the moment

[nicko]

caicedo, bellamy, boijinov? a lot better quality than we currently have..

You can't have seen Bojinov lately...

Hughesy makes an interesting point though, do Spuds owe us anything for Bentley for still which could help keep the price down in a way?

Pretty sure Rovers screwed Spurs to the deck about up-front money on the Bentley deal a year ago. It was all paid as far as I know...and remember Arsenal got their slice too.

[modes98]

to me, for rovers to solve our strike problem, we`d have to willing to pay out 50-60,000 a week on somebody and the rest of the squad would have to accept it as nesessery that one player earns more than they do.

I agree. It isn't of concern to the rest of the squad how much any new signings earn. If that is the kind of wages we have to pay to get a striker that could get us the goals we need then that is what we have to pay. We have lost a lot of dead weight this summer in wages.

[DeadlyDirk]

Pretty sure Rovers screwed Spurs to the deck about up-front money on the Bentley deal a year ago. It was all paid as far as I know...and remember Arsenal got their slice too.

I think Arsenal got half the sodding the cake! Fair enough though, even if some was owed it can only be a million or two at most I guess, since we only got about half of the fee, which isn't going to make much of a difference.

[DeadlyDirk]

I agree. It isn't of concern to the rest of the squad how much any new signings earn. If that is the kind of wages we have to pay to get a striker that could get us the goals we need then that is what we have to pay. We have lost a lot of dead weight this summer in wages.

I agree to a point but 60k is going to be double what most of the squad are paid, probably the likes of Benni and Robbo are close to 35-40k at most, I'm sure it could cause a few problems when it comes to contract renewals for the likes of MGP, Dunn and Reid.

It's just a sign of the times though unfortunately, players want to be paid more these days, if we don't pay them it, someone else will.

Tricky times balancing a large fee with large wages.

Like you say though with the losses of Mokoena (15k?), Ooijer (25k?), RSC (40-50k?), Tugay (15k) we must have cleared over a 100k, other than Givet I can't imagine many of the other we have brought in can be on much more than 10-15k each.

But then if believed wasn't one of JW's plans to reduce the wage bill, not increase it??

I'm seriously hoping BFS doesn't have 15m to spend on a 20k striker!

[altheblue]

Nicko, what was the thing that you were talking about, that will affect Rovers indirectly?

Blatently to do with Sheffield United (Please don't use that word again)ing Everton over for Naughton which probably means he's gone to Spurs.

I would assume one of their right backs is a target for Blackburn.

[tcj_jones]

I agree. It isn't of concern to the rest of the squad how much any new signings earn. If that is the kind of wages we have to pay to get a striker that could get us the goals we need then that is what we have to pay.

In fact, wasn't Roque earning that kinda money anyway? Bellamy too?

Unfortunately though, modern footballers do as much as they can to make it their own business

[Hughesy]

We have lost a lot of dead weight this summer in wages.

Id say we are probably about 140-150k lighter right now. There are however still a few more yet who we could get shut of and therefore allow us more room to manouvre.

Still should be considered to let go: Gally, Brown, Zurab, Fielding (Off soon), Rigters, Treacy

If money is too good to refuse: Andrews, Judge

[rovers1995]

Blatently to do with Sheffield United (Please don't use that word again)ing Everton over for Naughton which probably means he's gone to Spurs.

I would assume one of their right backs is a target for Blackburn.

Or, it could be about Man City going for Adebayor which means one of their strikers becomes available to us. Bellamy, Caicedo

[Iceman]

I don't buy into this idea of 'proven Premier League players'.

Look at Newcastle, they were full of them and they still went down. Furthermore, some of their best performers (Beye, Jonas) were in their début season, even Carroll looked more threatening than the experienced trio of Owen, Viduka and Ameobi.

It's about getting good players, experience is just an expensive bonus.

This is not me asking you LeC, but how do you gain premiership experience if you are not given a chance. There are loads of foreign players, who have never played in England, but are now experienced players. I agree, there are many players from the lower leagues who have outshone most of the so called experienced premiership players. In fact my buddy Andrews probably had a better season than Owen and he didnt have premiership experience.

[doctorryan]

Would clubs not get around that by giving huge signing on bonuses then?

You just prorate the signing bonus and add it to a player's cap number like we do here in the US. A player signs a 5 year deal at £1M/season + a £10M signing bonus. His "cap number" would be £3M/season. That's a simplistic example since teams will often adjust the terms of a contract season to season in order to create more "cap space", but that's basically how it works.

[ShyTalk]

Nicko,

There seems to be a bit of unrest at the Villa at the moment, and seems that all may not be what it seems behind the scenes. (What happened to the backing for MoN) A lot of reports of Young/Carew on the look for a move. Not saying that either of those players would be interested in leaving Villa Park for Ewood, but could Sam take advantage and go for Sidwell/Reo Coker or even Delfoenso on a loan deal if Di Santo falls through? What is happening at Villa? Could they be the surprise team to struggle next season?

[Steve Moss]

Sam seems to be changing his mind on this every couple of days. Not sure what to read into his latest comments. Surely he can't have been rebuffed by all his domestic targets in the space of a few days?

Negotiating price. Letting all the agents of English players that BRFC has options and are not wedded to the Crouches and Bents of the world.

[DeadlyDirk]

This is not me asking you LeC, but how do you gain premiership experience if you are not given a chance. There are loads of foreign players, who have never played in England, but are now experienced players. I agree, there are many players from the lower leagues who have outshone most of the so called experienced premiership players. In fact my buddy Andrews probably had a better season than Owen and he didnt have premiership experience.

The premiership experience thing can be nice but like someone said, it usually just doubles or trebles the price tag and doesn't nessicarily mean a lot.

They are not easy to find but Samba and Nelsen show that you don't have to have premiership experience, in Nelson's case even experience in playing for a European club and in Samba's case not even much first team experience as he was mainly a sub in Germany.

Like I said it isn't easy but then I don't get paid millions to do it.

[Kelbo]

The premiership experience thing can be nice but like someone said, it usually just doubles or trebles the price tag and doesn't nessicarily mean a lot.

They are not easy to find but Samba and Nelsen show that you don't have to have premiership experience, in Nelson's case even experience in playing for a European club and in Samba's case not even much first team experience as he was mainly a sub in Germany.

Like I said it isn't easy but then I don't get paid millions to do it.

In all fairness, both those layers werent bought to replace a player, Replacing your main striker is more difficult!!

[dirty cons]

on the interveiw on the rovers web it says we are at negoatiations with three players abroad any ideas nicko