[Archived] Blackburn Rovers Transfer Topic

[cn174]

We have plenty of midfielders and realistically only 3 strikers at the moment. I'm pretty sure Sam wants to assess the midfielders we have that were unfit last season before rushing into any new midfield signings, in the meantime, strikers ARE the priority.

We have plenty of poor to average midfielders, which is the reason why we should try and get some better ones.

[AJW]

can someone , who is a little less sceptical than me explain why vieri is being given the time to get fit whilst RVN has been discounted by sam for not being fit until september?

in sams own words vieri is way behind the rest of the squad in terms of fitness , and seeing as though he is 36 logic suggests he may take him longer to get fit than a younger player , vieri may not be ready until september either then!

i understand the financial package will be different between the 2 players , but sams comments seem to be aimed directly at RVN fitness not salary

if we sign di santo on loan as nicko is confident, we'll have him , roberts mccarthy and probably gallacher as strikers for the first 6-8 games , surley that would be enough if RVN was waiting in the wings as he bulids up match fitness

[CrazyIvan]

can someone , who is a little less sceptical than me explain why vieri is being given the time to get fit whilst RVN has been discounted by sam for not being fit until september?

in sams own words vieri is way behind the rest of the squad in terms of fitness , and seeing as though he is 36 logic suggests he may take him longer to get fit than a younger player , vieri may not be ready until september either then!

i understand the financial package will be different between the 2 players , but sams comments seem to be aimed directly at RVN fitness not salary

if we sign di santo on loan as nicko is confident, we'll have him , roberts mccarthy and probably gallacher as strikers for the first 6-8 games , surley that would be enough if RVN was waiting in the wings as he bulids up match fitness

RVN might not get fit for much longer than just September and you can't really expect to transfer an injured player, he wouldn't pass a medical for a start. Vieri is free and, unlike RVN, not injured. He's just not fit which is much easier to rectify than being injured. Getting fit is down to hard work and consistency, getting injury free is down to healing and then getting fit and RVN may never get back to his best following his latest injury. A player on trial on a free versus a player who would cost money and is a big injury risk plus already injured? I can see why Vieri is getting a chance whereas RVN isn't being considered at this time.

[alexanders]

I think it has a lot with the financial aspect to do, rather han the fitness thingy.

[Kelbo]

I still don't understand why everyone and Fat Sam wants to spend most of our money on a striker. Even if we sign Eto, whose gonna provide the service? The chances that Dunn and Reid will be fit for most of the season are small, the chances that both will be back to their best is even smaller. The wings with MGP, Emerton, The new South African guy and Diouf aren't exactly top-half players either.

Honestly, Roberts and Benni (with Di Santo or whoever as backup) and with the proper service will be a good enough partnership. Roberts misses sitters but he's a workhorse, and Benni can easily be our top scorer again. Neither are happy to sit on the bench and will be hungry to prove themselves again this season.

What we need is a class central midfielder or a winger that creates loads of chances.

Last night it appeared as though Nzonzi did pretty well, looked to have a good touch, quick and strong!1

Maybe Sams scout in France (Worthington I think) has found a gem!!

We will see against serious opposition!

[Majiball]

I see Mark is coming back to pinch our best physio david fevre, he will be missed he's one of the best.

[Hughesy]

can someone , who is a little less sceptical than me explain why vieri is being given the time to get fit whilst RVN has been discounted by sam for not being fit until september?

i understand the financial package will be different between the 2 players , but sams comments seem to be aimed directly at RVN fitness not salary

if we sign di santo on loan as nicko is confident, we'll have him , roberts mccarthy and probably gallacher as strikers for the first 6-8 games

You answered your own question - Ruud has a contract on big money and therefore would require big money & a fee to secure. Vieri would be free and would probably take half of RVN wages. Also probably heavily performance related.

Gallagher? Ha no thanks. Realistically - we have

Benni - who is a quality striker on his day/ but ??'s over his desire - however still the best we have

Roberts - trys hard, will get 10 goals a season if he plays all season - however he isnt top 10 material

Gallagher - Championship Quality

Holiette - ? Here's hoping!

Di Santo - If we get him, probably the 2nd best striker after Benni.

Last night it appeared as though Nzonzi did pretty well, looked to have a good touch, quick and strong!

Maybe Sams scout in France (Worthington I think) has found a gem!! We will see against serious opposition!

Iv heard similar things - A player I spoke to last week had alot of praise for him the other week too when I was speaking with him. It appears that he is of a much better level than many expected I think.

[BB9]

If we are going to get the ball down & play then I'd agree with you, but with Sam in charge I suspect midfield will be the last place he addresses. Another reason he won't be addressing midfield yet is that this will be the first and probably ONLY time he will have all the midfield players fit so needs to assess them.

He has to address the forward line as he only has two mainline strikers.

A little unfair. Sam had classy midfielders at Bolton i.e. Jay-Jay and Djorkaeff

[Ritchie]

I see Mark is coming back to pinch our best physio david fevre, he will be missed he's one of the best.

Hard to believe he's been at the club for over 10 years... appointed by a certain Brian Kidd!

All the best to him.

[modes98]

I see Mark is coming back to pinch our best physio david fevre, he will be missed he's one of the best.

Just read that in the mirror, not confirmed yet though. He is one of the elite Physios and has been at the club along time. We should be doing everything possible to keep him.

[alexanders]

Just read that in the mirror, not confirmed yet though. He is one of the elite Physios and has been at the club along time. We should be doing everything possible to keep him.

Can we demand a big compensation if he wants to leave?

Nice beer belly on Vieri

[joey_big_nose]

You answered your own question - Ruud has a contract on big money and therefore would require big money & a fee to secure. Vieri would be free and would probably take half of RVN wages. Also probably heavily performance related.

Gallagher? Ha no thanks. Realistically - we have

Benni - who is a quality striker on his day/ but ??'s over his desire - however still the best we have

Roberts - trys hard, will get 10 goals a season if he plays all season - however he isnt top 10 material

Gallagher - Championship Quality

Holiette - ? Here's hoping!

Di Santo - If we get him, probably the 2nd best striker after Benni.

Iv heard similar things - A player I spoke to last week had alot of praise for him the other week too when I was speaking with him. It appears that he is of a much better level than many expected I think.

Well as it stands I suppose we would line up:

-----------------McCarthy

--Pedersen-----------------Diouf

--------Warnock-----Dunn

------------------Grella

Givet--Nelsen------Samba---Jackobsen

--------------Robinson

Subs: Bunn, Zurab, Emerton, Reid, Van Heerden, Roberts, Di Santo/Hoilett

Am I alone in thinking that is actually a pretty decent team and quite a strong bench? Not going to get into Europe perhaps, but decent if used well. THe cracks would start to appear if two or three of Jackobsen, Emerton, Grella, Dunn and Reid showed their injury problems.

Striker wise, to play devils advocate, we (hopefully) will have McCarthy, Roberts, Diouf, Di Santo, Samba and Hoilett who can all play there....

[Bobby G]

nicko, Bellamy is being linked with a move away. Any chance we would be interested in him or him in us?

I cant believe he will be happy with all these strikers, but also I cant see Hughes pushing him out.

[nicko]

nicko, Bellamy is being linked with a move away. Any chance we would be interested in him or him in us?

I cant believe he will be happy with all these strikers, but also I cant see Hughes pushing him out.

Bellamy is on an absolute fortune in wages...might be worth an ask at the end of the window if he has not gone anywhere an you have not found anyone.

[den]

Well as it stands I suppose we would line up:

-----------------McCarthy

--Pedersen-----------------Diouf

--------Warnock-----Dunn

------------------Grella

Givet--Nelsen------Samba---Jackobsen

--------------Robinson

Subs: Bunn, Zurab, Emerton, Reid, Van Heerden, Roberts, Di Santo/Hoilett

Am I alone in thinking that is actually a pretty decent team and quite a strong bench?

You might be. There are no goals and no threat whatsoever in that side JBN.

[LeChuck]

can someone , who is a little less sceptical than me explain why vieri is being given the time to get fit whilst RVN has been discounted by sam for not being fit until september?

Err...Vieri just needs to build up match fitness because he hasn't played for a while, it shouldn't take more than a few weeks. Van Nistelrooy is injured because of his dodgy knees again. Two totally different scenarios, I'm surprised you had to ask really.

[joey_big_nose]

You might be. There are no goals and no threat whatsoever in that side JBN.

Not sure about that to be honest.

a) Most teams in the Prem do not have more "threat" than that. If you want to disagree then quote me a couple of teams that landed outside the European places have better attacking options in a blanced side.

Its a very solid, hard working side.

c) It is a slight improvement on the one that Sam got into near European form from Christmas

Of course we should find a striker. But people on here are far more miserable than they need to be. The quality of the players is not so bad (its not so good either) but it really comes down to how the manager uses them. Luckily we have a very good individual at doing that in Sam.

[LeChuck]

McCarthy is absolutely woeful as a lone striker, we'd be completely toothless with him there, hence why Samba ended up having to play alongside him last season.

[neekoy]

If we are going to get the ball down & play then I'd agree with you, but with Sam in charge I suspect midfield will be the last place he addresses.

Got to agree, long ball tactics only need midfilders who who can defend on the break and possibly step up for a goal or two from the tall striker knock down.

I would spend everything on the biggest strongest striker we can get. Step on up Kenwyn Jones and give me Vieri for some depth.

[joey_big_nose]

McCarthy is absolutely woeful as a lone striker, we'd be completely toothless with him there, hence why Samba ended up having to play alongside him last season.

If he is fit he can do a decent job, provided the wide players get beyond him. We do need a better target man though.

If are going to sign a 'big name' and Di Santo it does raise the question of how we are going to satisfy Chelsea that Di Santo will regularly start? Because we will probably be playing only one up top....

[47er]

Nicko---------is Bentley still destined for Villa or do they prefer Tuncay? If the latter where would you expect Bentley to end up? I've not read of any other interest in him which is odd because, despite his horror year at Spurs, he remains the most talented English mid-fielder of his type.

[Sparky Marky]

Well as it stands I suppose we would line up:

-----------------McCarthy

--Pedersen-----------------Diouf

--------Warnock-----Dunn

------------------Grella

Givet--Nelsen------Samba---Jackobsen

--------------Robinson

Subs: Bunn, Zurab, Emerton, Reid, Van Heerden, Roberts, Di Santo/Hoilett

Am I alone in thinking that is actually a pretty decent team and quite a strong bench? Not going to get into Europe perhaps, but decent if used well. THe cracks would start to appear if two or three of Jackobsen, Emerton, Grella, Dunn and Reid showed their injury problems.

Striker wise, to play devils advocate, we (hopefully) will have McCarthy, Roberts, Diouf, Di Santo, Samba and Hoilett who can all play there....

You'd have Grella instead of Emerton...???

[Taggart]

Good news guys and gals,

It looks as though Zamora is going to Hull thankfully - http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_5434491,00.html

I would be rather deluded if we were paying 5 million for him, as i rate him as average to below average and he is no better than what we already have.

Nicko - any news on a second confirmation of the striker`s name ? - is he foreign or home based by the way, and if you don`t get confirmation, will you share anyway as an afterthought ?

I am still of the opinion that Ken Jones would be a good signing for rovers and would be happy to see that as the business done.

[Blue blood]

Well as it stands I suppose we would line up:

-----------------McCarthy

--Pedersen-----------------Diouf

--------Warnock-----Dunn

------------------Grella

Givet--Nelsen------Samba---Jackobsen

--------------Robinson

Subs: Bunn, Zurab, Emerton, Reid, Van Heerden, Roberts, Di Santo/Hoilett

Am I alone in thinking that is actually a pretty decent team and quite a strong bench? Not going to get into Europe perhaps, but decent if used well. THe cracks would start to appear if two or three of Jackobsen, Emerton, Grella, Dunn and Reid showed their injury problems.

Striker wise, to play devils advocate, we (hopefully) will have McCarthy, Roberts, Diouf, Di Santo, Samba and Hoilett who can all play there....

No Emerton. Would have him ahead of Jakobsen at rb, or either Warnock or Grella in cm. Not sure how you can miss him out as when not injured he's been arguably our best player over the last 2 years. One of the first names on the teamsheet imo.

Edit - agree with Taggart on all of that.

[nicko]

Nicko---------is Bentley still destined for Villa or do they prefer Tuncay? If the latter where would you expect Bentley to end up? I've not read of any other interest in him which is odd because, despite his horror year at Spurs, he remains the most talented English mid-fielder of his type.

I don't think anyone is ever destined for Villa...although it does sometimes feel like a lifetime between them showing an interest and doing a deal.

Bentley is an option, so is Tuncay - and several others. O'Neill has money and may finally get round to spending it.

But don't hold your breath.

Find the Downing story odd. How does he pass a medical?

Nicko - any news on a second confirmation of the striker`s name ? - is he foreign or home based by the way, and if you don`t get confirmation, will you share anyway as an afterthought ?

Two solid contacts have given me one name...trouble is a third solid contact says it is another.

I think the truth is that BOTH are the options and it will come down to who sells at the right price.

Pretty sure who the top choice is now, but I would prefer contact to be made with his club.

This is a major move for yourselves. I would rather have the whole picture, but that could happen quite soon.