[Archived] Blackburn Rovers Transfer Topic

[joey_big_nose]

The other interesting thing re: Jones is that if he was to go I doubt it'd be for anythiing near £8million considering we supposedly (our club made a statement saying so) turned down a £20million bid in January.

If you can't afford Chamakh then I can't see there's any way you could afford Jones.....even if he was available.

I guess the question of what happened to the RSC cash has been asked on here a million times.....If i was a Rovers fan I'd be wondering why we don't have £18million to spend on a new striker.

If Jones isn't going for 10 million we won't buy him. So we probably won't . But there must have been a reason why Sam thought it was worth a look.

[gumboots]

The other interesting thing re: Jones is that if he was to go I doubt it'd be for anythiing near £8million considering we supposedly (our club made a statement saying so) turned down a £20million bid in January.

If you can't afford Chamakh then I can't see there's any way you could afford Jones.....even if he was available.

I guess the question of what happened to the RSC cash has been asked on here a million times.....If i was a Rovers fan I'd be wondering why we don't have £18million to spend on a new striker.

We know why. We don't have owners who want to spend on our club, therefore we have to balance the spending against paying off the overdraft etc, just like ordinary folk do. Besides which we ned more than just a striker so even if we had 18 million there's no way it could all go on one player, who, if he cost that much would also command the big wages to go with it. Many cahmpionship teams have as much if not more to spend than we have. It's not nice and we'd all like to spend more but surely every team that is not owned by multi-billionnaires must live with the worry of doing a Leeds. We don't want to and know we simply can't take that risk.

[philipl]

From time to time, ideas seem to get lodged on here about selling price that bear little resemblance to where the selling club is currently punting.

Jones at £8m. Sunderland not selling but £20m might be tempting

Zigic at £6m. Perennially for sale by perennially about to go bust Valencia. Probably needs a bid of £12m.

[Dunnfc]

Not being funny nelson but you didn't turn down a straight 20 mill cash bid pal.

You turned down something like 8 million plus alload of ridiculous add ons which were never going to be met, which may have finally resulted in 20 mill, if someone offers your lot a straight 10 mill cash bid and you get crouchy and someone else in...Jones is as good as gone.

[Sparky Marky]

The other interesting thing re: Jones is that if he was to go I doubt it'd be for anythiing near £8million considering we supposedly (our club made a statement saying so) turned down a £20million bid in January.

If you can't afford Chamakh then I can't see there's any way you could afford Jones.....even if he was available.

I guess the question of what happened to the RSC cash has been asked on here a million times.....If i was a Rovers fan I'd be wondering why we don't have £18million to spend on a new striker.

Don't come on here with your lordy attitude...just cos you might have a bit more money these days...listen mate, if we'd have gone for Jones when you went for him last time, he'd have signed for us...sunderland and the whole of the neast is a dump, which is why you're all crap.

I have faith in out chairman, we don't have 40k through the doors every week, so I don't question where all the money is....I expect some has gone to the funders of our club.

[gumboots]

The other interesting thing re: Jones is that if he was to go I doubt it'd be for anythiing near £8million considering we supposedly (our club made a statement saying so) turned down a £20million bid in January.

If you can't afford Chamakh then I can't see there's any way you could afford Jones.....even if he was available.

I guess the question of what happened to the RSC cash has been asked on here a million times.....If i was a Rovers fan I'd be wondering why we don't have £18million to spend on a new striker.

Right I've found the full interview in the Equipe. http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/breves2009/...52_chamakh.html For those who need the translation he says " I'm definitely leaving. Even if the trainer and management have said they want me to stay. At the moment there's things going on with Suderland and Blackburn, where I could already have gone becasue I've got an agreement with them, even if my chairman doesn't see what the heck I'd go there for. It's going slowly becasue it's my first transfer. I don't want to make a mistake. I'm still thinking,; it's my decision." Talks with Arsenal are less advanced. "That's dreamland. If it comes off with them, so much the better, but if not then it doesn't matter. It wouldn't bother me to go to Sunderland or Blackburn." Juventus, Fulham and Tottenham have also been linked and the player hopes that his current team won't make things awkward for him by asking a big fee or trying to do a swap deal

[Nelson!]

Don't come on here with your lordy attitude...just cos you might have a bit more money these days...listen mate, if we'd have gone for Jones when you went for him last time, he'd have signed for us...sunderland and the whole of the neast is a dump, which is why you're all crap.

I have faith in out chairman, we don't have 40k through the doors every week, so I don't question where all the money is....I expect some has gone to the funders of our club.

Woah! I wasn't trying to come accross like we're a bigger club at all....I was just curious as to why you seemed to make a massive profit on a player but your expected out lay is way less. I don't know anything about your board/directors and wasn't aware that they're trying to balance the books.

You're right that three years ago a player would have chosen you over us, now I'd expect it to be the other way around...I guess if we're in direct competition for Chamakh at any point we might find out.

With regard to the offer we recieved for Jones, I don't have any idea how much it was.....all I know is that the club statement (which, is probably slanted) said we turned down an offer of £20million. A few months before that Keane said he wouldn't accept £40 million for him because he'd be nigh on impossible to replace.

You might be right about the bid not being £20million straight up but I would be surprised if we'd take £10 for him considering he's extremely well thought of at the club and still a young lad. We don't need the money either.....

[LeftWinger]

tootenham have also been linked

I think he'd do well at Tootenham.

[gumboots]

I think he'd do well at Tootenham.

Apologies but I was flicking backwards and forwards between this and the source and anyway, to quote alice Cooper, School's out for summer!!!!!!!!

[braddock]

I think he'd do well at Tootenham.

there has only ever been one player to play well at tottenham and that was berb

[T4E]

I bet you're wondering why you bother Neil...

If it wasn't for you, I wouldn't.

[Darth Paul]

Woah! I wasn't trying to come accross like we're a bigger club at all....I was just curious as to why you seemed to make a massive profit on a player but your expected out lay is way less. I don't know anything about your board/directors and wasn't aware that they're trying to balance the books.

You're right that three years ago a player would have chosen you over us, now I'd expect it to be the other way around...I guess if we're in direct competition for Chamakh at any point we might find out.

With regard to the offer we recieved for Jones, I don't have any idea how much it was.....all I know is that the club statement (which, is probably slanted) said we turned down an offer of £20million. A few months before that Keane said he wouldn't accept £40 million for him because he'd be nigh on impossible to replace.

You might be right about the bid not being £20million straight up but I would be surprised if we'd take £10 for him considering he's extremely well thought of at the club and still a young lad. We don't need the money either.....

If you honestly believe that a player, given the choice of either club, on the same wages, would go to Sunderland before Rovers, then I find that slightly deluded.

The only thing you have to offer over us is a bigger stadium...that is about it...

[LeftWinger]

The only thing you have to offer over us is a bigger stadium...that is about it...

I disagree. With the money they have they've got more potential than us to be pushing for Europe in fairness.

[braddock]

If you honestly believe that a player, given the choice of either club, on the same wages, would go to Sunderland before Rovers, then I find that slightly deluded.

The only thing you have to offer over us is a bigger stadium...that is about it...

neutrals would be wiser to choose sunderland

[spencey7]

I disagree. With the money they have they've got more potential than us to be pushing for Europe in fairness.

And Steve Bruce isn't renowned for playing extremely ugly football.

[Blueandwhitemike]

What do followers of French football think of Chamakh compared to Gignac? Which one would you prefer?

[Nelson!]

If you honestly believe that a player, given the choice of either club, on the same wages, would go to Sunderland before Rovers, then I find that slightly deluded.

The only thing you have to offer over us is a bigger stadium...that is about it...

That's the thing though isn't it? The wages wouldn't be the same......which would also indicate to the player we're able to attract other players of similar ability and therefore more potential to progress as a club.

I'm not for one moment saying money makes one club bigger or better than another but it is the deciding factor for a great deal of players when deciding between a selection of similar clubs.

I sincerely hope this doesn't come accross as me thinking sunderland are soemthing special because we've got money to throw around. I'm not a city fan, loving the cash without any concept of the potential consequences. We're very fortunate that Ellis Short decided to take us full control when he did otherwise we'd be in the same boat as a lot of clubs....constantly looking over our shoulder and scared to spend. I am however hugely sceptical about people buying into clubs who might not have their best interests at heart.

We seem to be run pretty well these days in comparison to the embarassment of a board we've had in the past and I hope Niall Quinn has courted his investment wisely but only time will tell.

I stick by my point tho that players would choose us over you at present.....mostly based on money and the sense of optimism there seems to be in the footall world in general about what Steve Bruce *might* achieve.....he seems to be popular with players.

When it comes to modern footballers they'll take the option which looks best at any given time.

[brfcshabba]

And Steve Bruce isn't renowned for playing extremely ugly football.

But he is renowned for having an extremely ugly face

Mind you so is Sam

[LDRover]

I'd like to see us go for Victor Moses - bags of pace and raw talent, could be a bargain at circa 5million. Id like to think we could offer more than Wigan to him aswell.

shame I doubt we will!

That's a pretty good shout. Impressed me every time I've seen him.

[gumboots]

When it comes to modern footballers they'll take the option which looks best at any given time.

Which is why so many of them move again very quickly. what looks best and what actually is best in terms of career development can be 2 very different things. And although I agree that Allardyce is ugly and has an annoying voice, if there's one manager in football who's worse, it's definitely Bruce. Not that that should affect any player thinking of going there, but there are people I turn off when they appear on my tv and Bruce is a guaranteed turn off on both TV and radio.

[Kelbo]

And Steve Bruce isn't renowned for playing extremely ugly football.

Did you watch the game last night, playing with two wide men???

I will respond with the words of Gordon Lee when he came to manage Rovers from Port Vale, who were a dire defensive side!!

you can only play with the players you have got at your disposal!!

Rovers played some great football that season and won the League (a 4 - 1 away victory at Port Vale)

Sam Allardyce had to do what was neccessary last year, with Grella, Dunn, Emerton and Santa Cruz all injured

his midfield had gone, there is no way with what we had left we could have 'footballed' teams even if we wanted

to, so we had to do what was neccessary to survive!!

Give the fella some credit and last night, first time for years, we saw youth being given opportunities against a quality opposition, I feel Sam has a point to prove here and the team looked much sharper, passed better than they have for years, they seemed to have direction and purpose andto see the lads such as Judge, Doran and Nzonzi (Olsen looked sharp too going forward) augers well for the future.

PS and Hoilett and hopefully Di Santo still to come!!!

[Kelbo]

That's the thing though isn't it? The wages wouldn't be the same......which would also indicate to the player we're able to attract other players of similar ability and therefore more potential to progress as a club.

I'm not for one moment saying money makes one club bigger or better than another but it is the deciding factor for a great deal of players when deciding between a selection of similar clubs.

I sincerely hope this doesn't come accross as me thinking sunderland are soemthing special because we've got money to throw around. I'm not a city fan, loving the cash without any concept of the potential consequences. We're very fortunate that Ellis Short decided to take us full control when he did otherwise we'd be in the same boat as a lot of clubs....constantly looking over our shoulder and scared to spend. I am however hugely sceptical about people buying into clubs who might not have their best interests at heart.

We seem to be run pretty well these days in comparison to the embarassment of a board we've had in the past and I hope Niall Quinn has courted his investment wisely but only time will tell.

I stick by my point tho that players would choose us over you at present.....mostly based on money and the sense of optimism there seems to be in the footall world in general about what Steve Bruce *might* achieve.....he seems to be popular with players.

When it comes to modern footballers they'll take the option which looks best at any given time.

But Bruce moves around quite a bit, he has only stayed at Wigan for more than a season or so, the other clubs he has been to, he threw out the dummy and moved on!!

[spencey7]

Did you watch the game last night, playing with two wide men???

Not to p*** on the parade here, but friendlies mean absolutely nothing.

Do you actually expect to see Judge, Doran, Gallagher, N'zonzi or Olsson playing more than the odd game next season? If we're looking to play free-flowing football then why does any potential striker have to be 6'2" or above...?

If we play anything other than long, direct, unwatchable Allardyce-trademark football at the start of the season then I'll re-evaluate my beliefs. Until then I'll just keep looking forward to our next manager, and the chance to be excited and entertained.

[berkshireblue]

Not to p*** on the parade here, but friendlies mean absolutely nothing.

Do you actually expect to see Judge, Doran, Gallagher, N'zonzi or Olsson playing more than the odd game next season? If we're looking to play free-flowing football then why does any potential striker have to be 6'2" or above...?

If we play anything other than long, direct, unwatchable Allardyce-trademark football at the start of the season then I'll re-evaluate my beliefs. Until then I'll just keep looking forward to our next manager, and the chance to be excited and entertained.

I bet your glass is always half empty

last season was about survival, as was Hughesy first season when we had1 up front at home

This season the manager has a full pre season and his team, judge 10 games in

[DE.]

I think if it became a direct competition between us and Sunderland for a player it'd be pretty close. Both clubs share similar stature in football at this point in time, but neither are glamorous destinations. Both, however, do have managers who are considered 'popular' with players and good motivators.

Sunderland, however, have more money. I think that would ultimately sway it for most players, as splashing money not only heightens ambition but increases said player's paycehck.