[Archived] Relegation Watch 2009-10 Season

[gumboots]

Too right.

Brown did an amazing job to get them to the Premier League but their form since Christmas of last year has been woeful.

It'll be interesting to see who goes first, Hart or Brown.

I personally think that Hart and Brown are doing excellent jobs and should keep their positions till the end of the season.

[CrazyIvan]

I personally think tha Hart and Brown are doing excellent jobs and should keep their positions till the end of the season.

ME TOO!!!!

[G Somerset Rover]

Got to say Wolves aren't looking too clever either. Whether performances turn around for any of these teams will be an interesting watch. Same for us to be honest. This season may end up like last with next to nothing separating 11th to 17th with the bottom three just a teeny bit behind.

I reckon Wolves will pick up enough points to stay clear of the drop zone. Ebanks-Blake is a decent striker and I really rate Kightley. I'm still gutted we didn't go for him when Bents left.

Having said that I reckon it's anyone from Big Club, Burnley, Bolton, Wigan, Wolves, Hammers or us for the 3rd spot. If I had to guess now I'd say Big Club (hopefully).

[they_think_its_all_rover]

Too right.

Brown did an amazing job to get them to the Premier League but their form since Christmas of last year has been woeful.

It'll be interesting to see who goes first, Hart or Brown.

Brown will. There isn't many people here who're still fans of Brownie. One reason he kept his job last season was he had a lot of people still on his side, supporting him - getting praise in defeat.

Because of where Hull City have come from, there has NEVER been any boo's because since the Boothferry Park days, there has only been plus points, but for the last 2 games there have been strong boo's at the final whistle and they're not being directed at the players.

Only thing he has going for him is the chairman is his best bud - unlucky for him is that he only owns a 5% stake

Steve McClaren has been at the last couple of home games, so could be something in that...?

[CAPT KAYOS]

Another crushing 4-0 reverse for Hull last night, albeit in the cup. They're gonners too. Thank God there are two teams this season that are so awful that there is only one relegation spot to be filled.

What makes you think they are more gonners than anybody else - they fielded x9 changes showing where the priorities lie.

We had a team considered the 1st team and still got slaughtered

As people keep saying there is a long way to go - who says there is only x2 relegation spots to be filled?

At the moment we are in a worse position than at this stage last season - lets not start to count chickens.

[den]

Another crushing 4-0 reverse for Hull last night, albeit in the cup. They're gonners too. Thank God there are two teams this season that are so awful that there is only one relegation spot to be filled.

They're on the same number of points as us. Work out how we'll get to 40 points, before looking at others tcj.

[unluckymorton]

What makes you think they are more gonners than anybody else - they fielded x9 changes showing where the priorities lie.

We had a team considered the 1st team and still got slaughtered

As people keep saying there is a long way to go - who says there is only x2 relegation spots to be filled?

At the moment we are in a worse position than at this stage last season - lets not start to count chickens.

Fair enough, lets not count our chickens, but there's nothing stopping us looking on the bright side is there? There is a lot of crap around us so it's looking better for us than the likes of Hull, Big club and Wolves.

Chins up lads, we're only 5 games into the season!

[they_think_its_all_rover]

What makes you think they are more gonners than anybody else - they fielded x9 changes showing where the priorities lie.

We had a team considered the 1st team and still got slaughtered

As people keep saying there is a long way to go - who says there is only x2 relegation spots to be filled?

At the moment we are in a worse position than at this stage last season - lets not start to count chickens.

9 changes all set out poorly by Brown. He played 2 wingers at fullback, a 17 year old at centre-back (who played very well, though), 2 other youngsters and 2 old cloggers in Boateng and Barmby.

Hull City under Brown at the moment are very stale - reminds me of Rovers near the end of Souness' reign.

[gumboots]

What makes you think they are more gonners than anybody else - they fielded x9 changes showing where the priorities lie.

We had a team considered the 1st team and still got slaughtered

As people keep saying there is a long way to go - who says there is only x2 relegation spots to be filled?

At the moment we are in a worse position than at this stage last season - lets not start to count chickens.

We were away though and weren't Hull at home. Still makes a difference.

[CAPT KAYOS]

We were away though and weren't Hull at home. Still makes a difference.

So does x9 changes gumboots - as I said where priorities lie.

Our priorities appear to be about getting a draw at home against Whet Spam - do you see what I mean.

You can't read anything into Hull's performance /selection from last night.

What we can read into is our own thus far - started promising enough but appear to be going backwards.

As unluckymorton states its only early in the season , however 10 games is normally a good benchmark for determining how the season will pan out for many teams - which our next line of games coming up will take us up to - however bar the one obvious game - is anybody confident of where we will actually pick up any points considering the way we have set up/played , especially away from home which appears to be as bad if not worse than last season at the moment.

How anybody can claim that others are 'goners' or any other similar term when you consider our own position is just beyond belief.

[gumboots]

So does x9 changes gumboots - as I said where priorities lie.

Our priorities appear to be about getting a draw at home against Whet Spam - do you see what I mean.

You can't read anything into Hull's performance /selection from last night.

What we can read into is our own thus far - started promising enough but appear to be going backwards.

As unluckymorton states its only early in the season , however 10 games is normally a good benchmark for determining how the season will pan out for many teams - which our next line of games coming up will take us up to - however bar the one obvious game - is anybody confident of where we will actually pick up any points considering the way we have set up/played , especially away from home which appears to be as bad if not worse than last season at the moment.

How anybody can claim that others are 'goners' or any other similar term when you consider our own position is just beyond belief.

I wouldn't suggest any team is a goner yet, but Hull are not just on a poor run this season - they've been poor since fairly early last season. We too, however, have been poor in the games I have seen so far this season - only 2 to date- and by all accounts were soundly trounced on Sunday, so I'm not gloating or writing anyone off yet. Sorry if i gave the impresion I was.

[tcj_jones]

Den, Capt: I'm not counting my chickens yet, by any means. I did that last season when Ince took over, thinking the squad was far too good to go down, only for us to survive by the skin of our teeth. However, we have played well, by and large, so far this season and don't have nearly the same problems injury-wise. Pompey are pointless and look all but relegated already; Hull have a poor squad, are on an extremely poor run and haven't played well in months and months. I'd wager a fair amount we'll finish above them, but I'm still fearful that we could fill that third relegation spot if we don't pick up a few points against the top four, Villa and Burnley over the next month or so.

[champions1995]

On October 3rd Hull City take on Wigan at the KC, which could arguably be Phil Brown's biggest game in charge of the club. Defeat and Brown will surely get the bullet and will see Hull in severe disarray with just four points (providing they also lose at Anfield this weekend) from seven games.

As for writing teams off, it is too early to be doing that as we have seen so many surprises in the past. Fortunes of clubs can change throughout the season - ie: a new manager, and teams like Fulham, West Brom and Portsmouth over recent years are examples of teams surviving who had appeared to be doomed and destined for relegation.

[unluckymorton]

Pompey's new owner has said there are no funds for signings this January and he wants to develop an Arsenal style academy.

Well that is one relegation slot sealed then- just hope Rovers get all six points against them.

Yeah I saw that too, it's a strange approach by the new owner, I can't get my head round it.

All I can come up with is that the new owner either doesn't have faith in the manager (which is understandable) or he isn't actually what he's cracked up to be. Pompey could just be a little business to tie his debt into.

Good luck to him with the academy and thanks for taking a relegation place. Let's hope another North West team replaces them for next season.

[Blue blood]

Yeah I saw that too, it's a strange approach by the new owner, I can't get my head round it.

All I can come up with is that the new owner either doesn't have faith in the manager (which is understandable) or he isn't actually what he's cracked up to be. Pompey could just be a little business to tie his debt into.

Good luck to him with the academy and thanks for taking a relegation place. Let's hope another North West team replaces them for next season.

I doubt they'll have masses of money, yet there is no doubt the squad needs some serious additions - which must be obvious to everyone in the football world. This is probably a bit of propeganda to try lowering clubs valuations of players when pompey inevitably come calling in January. That's my take on it anyway. Although I wouldnt have any faith in Hart either.

[CAPT KAYOS]

I wouldn't suggest any team is a goner yet, but Hull are not just on a poor run this season - they've been poor since fairly early last season. We too, however, have been poor in the games I have seen so far this season - only 2 to date- and by all accounts were soundly trounced on Sunday, so I'm not gloating or writing anyone off yet. Sorry if i gave the impresion I was.

Sorry gumboots , no you didn't give the impression it was just the response to the Hull scenario more than anything - I think its just the way my response back came across ( so apologies on that) the rest was aimed mainly at those who seem to see Rovers through Blue n White tinted specs and see us as high and mighty above these other so called lower teams as if we will have no problem getting out of a relegation battle or even being in one - when the evidence is there for all to see that we are no great shakes at the moment.

Might not be the time to panic, but it is time to worry - defeats do not breed confidence, which we are so severely lacking in and as everybody knows, once you get dragged into the pit its very very difficult to get back out; for every two teps forward there always appears to be one or two steps back and it feels like you are getting nowhere then ends up just a survival of fortune.

Considering what we have on the horizon, the stance against the Spammers was unforgiveable really and despite Sam claiming to be the oracle of knowledge , despite his supposed experience he was certainly wrong on this occasion and alot of fans know the signs and the consequences of not taking the chances when they are there to be taken. He can tittle on about this and that but we need to start to sort out our set up and mindset , especially at home to try and maximise points.

[American]

Apparently Pompey's new owner was supposed to go to a supporters function last night and canceled on Thursday. The resulting furor made him change his mind again.

Season ticket holder I work with is very worried about the future of the club and says this guy is a complete sham.

[meerkat]

I saw this link on another footy forum, of course it's just a bit of fun, but I'd settle for this end of season table

Warwick University prediction program.

[philipl]

I wouldn't be surprised if the people in the Premier League compliance unit don't have a wry smile at the moment. The League three most obvious problem clubs are in the three delegation slots. Pompey, Wham and Hull.

[gumboots]

I saw this link on another footy forum, of course it's just a bit of fun, but I'd settle for this end of season table <img src="http://www.brfcs.co.uk/mb/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="cool.gif" />

<a href="http://www.dectech.org/football_sites/football_dectech/seasonend_overall.php" target="_blank">Warwick University prediction program.</a>

That's pretty much best of the rest when you consider where Everton and Villa have finished in the last few seasons

[Steve Moss]

I saw this link on another footy forum, of course it's just a bit of fun, but I'd settle for this end of season table <img src="http://www.brfcs.co.uk/mb/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="cool.gif" />

<a href="http://www.dectech.org/football_sites/football_dectech/seasonend_overall.php" target="_blank">Warwick University prediction program.</a>

I'd be very happy with 9th. Chalk it up to being a transition year and hope for better the year after.

[Blue blood]

9th would do me very nicely.

Wasn't sure where to comment on Pompey not being able to bring in McAllister. Have to say though, wanting him given his record in management, is a big enough sign of trouble. Not getting him is an even bigger one.

Looking at predictors, oppinions on mb and the like it seems like at least 1 probably 2 of the promoted teams will stay up. Given that that happens, can anyone see any of them becoming established premier league clubs (and more of a rival to us)? The only one I can see that happening with is Brum, Burnley don't have the financial clout, and Wolves under McCarthy won't be too threatening to anyone.

[philipl]

We will have the same moans about Burnley and Wolves having bigger transfer budgets than us next summer as there were about Stoke and Hull this summer.

When you come out of a league with a £10m turnover, the wages are set accordingly. Bingo you suddenly get £40m AND if you don't go down you get a second £40m and the certainty of two £15m parachutes if you go down after the second season. So in your second summer you have paid off any old debts and you are in the sweetie shop with the store keeper away. Only to find many of the sweets are stuck in the jars and won't come to you....

[meerkat]

I saw this link on another footy forum, of course it's just a bit of fun, but I'd settle for this end of season table <img src="http://www.brfcs.co.uk/mb/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="cool.gif" />

<a href="http://www.dectech.org/football_sites/football_dectech/seasonend_overall.php" target="_blank">Warwick University prediction program.</a>

Still showing us as 10th.

Warwick University prediction program.

[Hughesy]

Pompey are terrible.... Hull looked worse (and lost thier keeper to injury) - Unless there is a big change both are going down.