[Archived] Blackburn Rovers Transfer Topic

[Eddie]

It would be a huge mistake on our part if we don't invest in a central midfielder...or two. We simply can't expect to have a good season when we are hoping for injury plagued players to stay injury free and unproven ones to do their part. We must have money left over, investment is necessary.

[JAL]

Last night on sky sports news they claimed that Rovers were reportedly paying Kalinic £1.7m a year in salary.

Is that why the budget has been blown, Nicko suggested that he was going to Pompey on the cheap for me that doesnt equate to being cheap in my book.

[S15]

To be fair, you sound both biased against and disillusioned with Pedersen. Your points about him are understandable, but also arguable.

To be honest, since the moment he became a regular I was never convinced about him. I always thought once the goals dried up, which they always would, he would offer precious little. 2-3 years now is too long, and that postion needs refreshing.

[tHe_UnAmEd]

Nicko may well have been asked politely to call it off for a little while we do some black ops.

Sam's desire for a midfielder paints his comments about no more transfers as complete spin to make our approaches more affordable.

[Tony Diamond Inc]

To be fair, you sound both biased against and disillusioned with Pedersen. Your points about him are understandable, but also arguable.

Shillito's is a lazy argument though. Some people just look for the gloss.

Pederson has proved his worth to the team through endeavour, commitment to the team ethic, and a good few assists here and there.

These 'ugly' sides to the beautiful game are too often missed by too many, however, it has not gone unnoticed by Messers Souness, Hughes, Ince and Allardyce.

Maybe they just can't see that he is 'crap'???

[incecticide]

To be honest, since the moment he became a regular I was never convinced about him. I always thought once the goals dried up, which they always would, he would offer precious little. 2-3 years now is too long, and that postion needs refreshing.

that's a popular opinion, so i'm not going to say it's wrong. i just think that his assists record is impressive and he offers service from the wing that opposition managers have publicly highlighted as a threat for years. arguably our two biggest highlights in recent years have been beating burnley at ewood and beating united at old trafford - and we all know who scored the winner in both matches.

i think he has added competition in the squad this year and that will be the making of him, either that or end his rovers career, either way we win.

[budha]

If you look at the players history above, then only Emmerton has half a chance of regaining fitness and sustaining it the other three is just complete wishful thinking, it aint going to happen.

And what exactly in Grella's history says he hasn't got a chance of regaining fitness?

Last night on sky sports news they claimed that Rovers were reportedly paying Kalinic £1.7m a year in salary.

Is that why the budget has been blown, Nicko suggested that he was going to Pompey on the cheap for me that doesnt equate to being cheap in my book.

~£30k/wk IS cheap.

[mellison24]

Shillito's is a lazy argument though. Some people just look for the gloss.

Pederson has proved his worth to the team through endeavour, commitment to the team ethic, and a good few assists here and there.

These 'ugly' sides to the beautiful game are too often missed by too many, however, it has not gone unnoticed by Messers Souness, Hughes, Ince and Allardyce.

Maybe they just can't see that he is 'crap'???

It was missed by P*** I*** cos he started to drop him!!! Even more proof that Ince is a total F****** W*****

[LeChuck]

~£30k/wk IS cheap.

It's also a lot less than Roque would have been on.

There is no way Roque's transfer fee is going on Kalinic's wages too.

[Majiball]

Agreed - claiming poverty at this stage could be a result of a summer of people trying to tease as much of the Roque money out of us as possible.

At the same time if we didn't sign anyone, it wouldn't be as much of a disaster as some people are making out. And there's always freebies.

We can always change the system to get round the issue, but that means once less area of attack.

If there's any chance we can add in someone who can see and hit a nice long pass from central we'd be all the better going forward. Remember we only scored 40 goals last year and need that to increase. Having a regular threat from the centre of the pitch would allow that to happen.

[braddock]

I would be satisfied with no further signings. The centre of midfield may be a problem but we could have been in a lot worse situation. We will not get relegated with this team and that is the main thing.

I would rather keep things as they are than raise funds by selling someone else. The only person I would seriously consider selling would be Reid and that won't happen. Warnock could go for £8-10mil I suppose, but I doubt that would be offered.

I am content, since even taking into account any inadequacies Big Sam will ensure we battle for enough points regardless. There are plenty of clubs with worse teams than us and, when the going gets tough less fight. We should be aiming for a minimum of 12th place and without any significant threats of relegation, which given last seasons scare is acceptable in my eyes. A gradual improvement each year should see us challenging for Europe in the next 3 years maximum hopefully.

Sam's done well this transfer window if he stops here.

[S15]

Shillito's is a lazy argument though. Some people just look for the gloss.

Pederson has proved his worth to the team through endeavour, commitment to the team ethic, and a good few assists here and there.

These 'ugly' sides to the beautiful game are too often missed by too many, however, it has not gone unnoticed by Messers Souness, Hughes, Ince and Allardyce.

Maybe they just can't see that he is 'crap'???

Hang on?

Souness signed him and then buggered off, Ince's opinion doesn't seem to count for much around here, and if Alan Nixon is to be believed (and he's as good a source as any) Allardyce may be looking to replace him.

And Hughes had very little to spend, so when he did it was usually on crtitically important positions, which LM is slowly becoming now. And since Hughes has had his bottomless pit, he certainly hasn't been back this way too much has he?

[incecticide]

Remember we only scored 40 goals last year and need that to increase.

remember we had to play horrible football for the second half of the year to drag us out of the mess ince left us in... it's not a fair reflection on our overall goalscoring potential.

[Eddie]

but we could have been in a much worse situation? What sort of reasoning is that? Fact is our midfield hasn't been good enough for several years and we also haven't strengthened it since we signed Bentley. We've never replaced Savage. Not replaced Tugay. Not replaced Bentley. Not replaced the player formerly known as Pedersen. I'm happy to keep MGP, happy to see Diouf, Emerton and whoever else do a job out wide, but you can't epect that much from our current crop of central midfielders. No creativity. Virtually no goals. Not even a great defensive midfielder in the bunch. We're simply asking for trouble. Good sides will dominate possession and we won't stand a chance.

[saxo1man30]

Who will play with him then???

We need a player that has vision and passing ability, because it doesn't matter how good our strikers are if they don't get the service they won't score.

I have faith we'll see one more in, somehow.

at everton last season(once arteta was injured) who was their midfilder with vision and passing ability? they had none! there is more than one way to skin a cat and it doesn`t nessesitate a luxury `playmaker`. everton ended last season as one of the best teams in the league, they were arguably BETTER without arteta!

[roversmad95]

Dietmar Hamann, signed for Bolton and then moved to Man City?

didnt obi mikel sign for man u then they sold him to chelsea but he didnt even play for them... he signed a pre contract or something....

[Ronin]

at everton last season(once arteta was injured) who was their midfilder with vision and passing ability? they had none! there is more than one way to skin a cat and it doesn`t nessesitate a luxury `playmaker`. everton ended last season as one of the best teams in the league, they were arguably BETTER without arteta!

Plus they didn't really have a fit striker towards the end of the season. Only Saha and that was in fits and bursts.

[67splitscreen]

Looks like Betis are finally going to lose Emana €4m

Could have done with him.

[incecticide]

but we could have been in a much worse situation? What sort of reasoning is that? Fact is our midfield hasn't been good enough for several years and we also haven't strengthened it since we signed Bentley. We've never replaced Savage. Not replaced Tugay. Not replaced Bentley. Not replaced the player formerly known as Pedersen. I'm happy to keep MGP, happy to see Diouf, Emerton and whoever else do a job out wide, but you can't epect that much from our current crop of central midfielders. No creativity. Virtually no goals. Not even a great defensive midfielder in the bunch. We're simply asking for trouble. Good sides will dominate possession and we won't stand a chance.

i'm sure if there was an opportunity to improve on our current best xi and we could afford it, sam would take that opportunity. the midfield being "good enough" doesn't come into it - it's about doing the best with what you have, which includes not casting aside players who have the potential to do well if there isn't a better option.

we have replaced savage, we signed grella.

[Rainmaker]

didnt obi mikel sign for man u then they sold him to chelsea but he didnt even play for them... he signed a pre contract or something....

He signed for Man Utd.

Then Chelsea claimed to have an agreement with Mikels club, FC Lyn that he was to become a Chelsea player when eligible for it.

A whole saga which finally took Mikel to Chelsea and lead the director of FC Lyn getting a suspended sentence of 1 year jailtime for contract forgery.

[deftangel]

If Pedersen pulls his finger out he'd be a massive asset to us. He's due a good season. I agree with an earlier poster and suggest the increased competition might buck his ideas up. He's also nothing like our worst midfielder, which is why that area needs investment.

There are enough bad teams (Pompey, Hull, Dingles, Big Club, Stoke, Wolves, Wigan, Notlob) in the league this year that we've a cracking opportunity to get to safety relatively quickly and then push on / build for greater things from there.

We aren't going to be able to do that if all of the aforementioned rock up at Ewood and get away with sketchy 0-0 draws because we had no guile to break them down.

[Eddie]

i'm sure if there was an opportunity to improve on our current best xi and we could afford it, sam would take that opportunity. the midfield being "good enough" doesn't come into it - it's about doing the best with what you have, which includes not casting aside players who have the potential to do well if there isn't a better option.

we have replaced savage, we signed grella.

Maybe we've replaced him in terms of numbers, but not in kind.

[Majiball]

remember we had to play horrible football for the second half of the year to drag us out of the mess ince left us in... it's not a fair reflection on our overall goalscoring potential.

Three main areas of attack in football flanks and the middle. We have no threat in the middle at present (you can't rely on Dunn, he will get injured) so we eliminate one area of attack straight away.

One thing that seems to have slipped a lot of people by is the fact all our new attacking players have no experience of playing in the premiership (Di Santo excluded, but he's yet to score). So at present we cannot be sure they will cut the mustard. You have to hedge your bets, because as you say at present its just potential.

I know we played horrible football last year, but you do all realise we have only one player who has ever scored more than 10 goals in our league in one season, Benni. Don't get me wrong I'm happy with most of whats been brought in but there a lot of questions marks over them till they prove they can cut the mustard. Imagine this senario, both Klaninic and Di Santo flop, what do we do?? Well you bring in Benni and Jrob, But Bennis needs a central player who can pass to find him he doesn't really thrive on crosses. We could change the system 451 but that would mean Jrob up top and he won't score the goals we need, his track record shows that. By bringing in a new man we increase the chances that it will work out and add in another area of attack that we simply at present do not have unless we can keep Dunn fit, which is about as likely as Darren Anderton.

For me bringing in one more cetral player just adds a bit more weight to our season. Because we've lost so much from that area in the last two years and never replaced them.

at everton last season(once arteta was injured) who was their midfilder with vision and passing ability? they had none! there is more than one way to skin a cat and it doesn`t nessesitate a luxury `playmaker`. everton ended last season as one of the best teams in the league, they were arguably BETTER without arteta!

They had Jo up front tail end of last year. Fellani?? Cahill Pienaar three of evertons central players which ones wouldn't make it into our first 11??? Neville plays there as well sitting if needed, Gosling and Osman as well can all play there, good players.

I've posted how I think we will play if we don't get someone who can pass the ball, Flank play, with a brazilian box defence, but even thats going to be tricky when we need to switch because we don't have player who can hit an accurate cross field ball, Tug's has gone.

I don't think Moyes would agree and Arteta is one of the first names on his team-sheet at right wing because he has the afore mentioned in the middle. They are a stronger team than us for sure with a lot more quality in the middle than we have at present.

[Jeru tha Damaja]

at everton last season(once arteta was injured) who was their midfilder with vision and passing ability? they had none! there is more than one way to skin a cat and it doesn`t nessesitate a luxury `playmaker`. everton ended last season as one of the best teams in the league, they were arguably BETTER without arteta!

Pienaar, Osman, Cahill, Fellaini. Take your pick, they all have more quality in attack than our options.

[Kelbo]

II've posted how I think we will play if we don't get someone who can pass the ball, Flank play, with a brazilian box defence, but even thats going to be tricky when we need to switch because we don't have player who can hit an accurate cross field ball, Tug's has gone.

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I think Pederson could, and I think he would score a few goals from centre mid as well!!

I am awaiting the bullets from some, but he has a great engine, closes down well, can pass and shoot!!

Oh, and Beckham could too