[Archived] Blackburn Rovers Transfer Topic

[Blue n White Rover]

If you don't ask you don't get. SA/JW just need to enquire and see what happens. Beckham might surprise them and say yes.

And an even bigger suprise when you see that you have to pay him double the wage of our top earner!!

Never going to happen.

[Majiball]

And an even bigger suprise when you see that you have to pay him double the wage of our top earner!!

Never going to happen.

Beckham would pay for himself with commercial spin offs and he would end up costing us nothing!!

[Anti-Dingle-Brigade]

Beckham wouldn't generate 80k a week in sales for us alone. His own brands and things, yes. Shirt sales and the like, no.

[Kelbo]

Beckham wouldn't generate 80k a week in sales for us alone. His own brands and things, yes. Shirt sales and the like, no.

Corporate, sponsorship, world wide sales, shirt sales, season tickets, profile and probably 5 league places higher!!

T/V would have extra games.

[Anti-Dingle-Brigade]

And you trust the Rovers lot to market it so efficiently we can consistently squeeze over 80k per week over a 3/4 year period out of it? He'd be good and would strengthen us, yes, but I just doubt he'd "pay for himself". He'd certainly take a big chunk of it off though.

EDIT: Oh and can you expand on "world wide sales"?

[Amo]

We should definitely inquire about a loan deal for Becks. Where's the harm in it? At least it'll provide some good publicity for the club. And what with World Cup looming, he'll need to be playing top-level football.

[67splitscreen]

I wonder how many of those Manc shirts you see wandering the streets on a Saturday would find there way to Ewood with Beckham in a Rovers shirt.

If it was at all possible I would say it would be worth the risk. It might even get Warnock into the England side.

[Kelbo]

And you trust the Rovers lot to market it so efficiently we can consistently squeeze over 80k per week over a 3/4 year period out of it? He'd be good and would strengthen us, yes, but I just doubt he'd "pay for himself". He'd certainly take a big chunk of it off though.

EDIT: Oh and can you expand on "world wide sales"?

The profile of beckham and his clubs generate sales of his clubs stuff around the world, even in LA shirt sales were over £1,000,000 in Japan

[Stuart]

Beckham? Rovers?

That's Roy of the Rovers stuff that. Sorry to tread on anyone's dreams but there's not a chance in hell that he'd come to us.

Ask away, by all means, it's just not going to happen.

[Majiball]

And you trust the Rovers lot to market it so efficiently we can consistently squeeze over 80k per week over a 3/4 year period out of it? He'd be good and would strengthen us, yes, but I just doubt he'd "pay for himself". He'd certainly take a big chunk of it off though.

EDIT: Oh and can you expand on "world wide sales"?

Madrid said Beckham was worth 25M a year to them alone. Yes he got a cut but they made 25M a season having him on the books. take out the madrid factor and say we make 10M (very conservative) what could Sam do with 10M extra next summer.

To put Beckham in perspective can anyone name the only footballer to be imortalised in his own chocolate bar, yes Beckham in Asia where's he's a god.

This year we had 13M to spend and we have struggled to get what we wanted. That money could go a long way for us, we have no investment no money man nothing but the money we generate and soon we'll be priced out of the league.

With out RSC sale what would we have had to spend this year?

This is taken from sportbusiness:

David Beckham’s proposed loan move to Italian giants AC Milan could be worth up to £10 million to the club over six months.

Sport business expert Professor Simon Chadwick said that although the former England captain’s prospective move to Italy is for just a few months, it will have an immediate impact on ticket sales, sponsorship deals, merchandise, TV revenues and promotional activity for his Milan paymasters.

Chadwick, commenting on behalf of Weber Shandwick Sport, said:“Brand Beckham is still a global phenomenon and even in these difficult economic times his star appeal in parts of the world such as the Middle East and Asia will see AC Milan netting up to £10 million, just for a short stay. Many of the world’s finest footballers have represented the Rossoneri, but Beckham is in his own league when it comes to global impact.”

Professor Chadwick is the Founder and Director of the Centre for the International Business of Sport at Coventry University.

Just for six months stay at AC, they are still selling Beckham merchandise as well.

No-ones ever going to buy us we've been up for sale for years with no takers, so we have to somehow generate extra money. The americans are beginning to turn on him, milan are dragging their heels and he's publically said he would come back to the premier league. If ever we stood a chance its now.

[Grez]

Beckham? Rovers?

That's Roy of the Rovers stuff that. Sorry to tread on anyone's dreams but there's not a chance in hell that he'd come to us.

Ask away, by all means, it's just not going to happen.

I agree... Dream trippin' boys

[RovertheHill]

Madrid said Beckham was worth 25M a year to them alone. Yes he got a cut but they made 25M a season having him on the books. take out the madrid factor and say we make 10M (very conservative) what could Sam do with 10M extra next summer.

To put Beckham in perspective can anyone name the only footballer to be imortalised in his own chocolate bar, yes Beckham in Asia where's he's a god.

This year we had 13M to spend and we have struggled to get what we wanted. That money could go a long way for us, we have no investment no money man nothing but the money we generate and soon we'll be priced out of the league.

With out RSC sale what would we have had to spend this year?

This is taken from sportbusiness:

David Beckham’s proposed loan move to Italian giants AC Milan could be worth up to £10 million to the club over six months.

Sport business expert Professor Simon Chadwick said that although the former England captain’s prospective move to Italy is for just a few months, it will have an immediate impact on ticket sales, sponsorship deals, merchandise, TV revenues and promotional activity for his Milan paymasters.

Chadwick, commenting on behalf of Weber Shandwick Sport, said:“Brand Beckham is still a global phenomenon and even in these difficult economic times his star appeal in parts of the world such as the Middle East and Asia will see AC Milan netting up to £10 million, just for a short stay. Many of the world’s finest footballers have represented the Rossoneri, but Beckham is in his own league when it comes to global impact.”

Professor Chadwick is the Founder and Director of the Centre for the International Business of Sport at Coventry University.

Just for six months stay at AC, they are still selling Beckham merchandise as well.

No-ones ever going to buy us we've been up for sale for years with no takers, so we have to somehow generate extra money. The americans are beginning to turn on him, milan are dragging their heels and he's publically said he would come back to the premier league. If ever we stood a chance its now.

Nice idea and I like your thinking but...

Madrid - pop 3.2m

Real Madrid - average gate 71000

How on earth do you think we would get anywhere near 10M if Real only made 25M?

[Amo]

I agree... Dream trippin' boys

It's a nice change from the usual grim pessimism on the board.

Grooooaaan, long ball next season.

Grooooaaan, we need a midfielder.

Etc.

[LeChuck]

Nice idea and I like your thinking but...

Madrid - pop 3.2m

Real Madrid - average gate 71000

How on earth do you think we would get anywhere near 10M if Real only made 25M?

Not only that, but the Madrid PR machine will be used to squeezing every penny out of the global market for their megastars.

We, on the other hand, probably wouldn't have the first clue where to begin. People aren't just going to come and give us money for having David Beckham.

Loaning him is a complete non-starter (why does anyone think we can?!)...thinking we could actually do so and make a profit out of it is bordering on lunacy!

[Majiball]

Nice idea and I like your thinking but...

Madrid - pop 3.2m

Real Madrid - average gate 71000

How on earth do you think we would get anywhere near 10M if Real only made 25M?

Its not about the population or the attendances its about shirt sales, stickers, boots, and so on all over the globe, not just in the local area. Madrid got 70,000 before him and still do its not where he generates money for a club. Ac Milan are still selling shirts for him even with this years kit, why would they offer that if there wasn't demand and he doesn't even play for them.

thats just merchandising ( the 10M), so shirts Adidas boots and so on. No-one cares what club he pays for they just want brand beckham he's a global phenomenon and has fans world wide in Asia and the middle east, if he moved to us they'd all want Rovers shirts and so one as thats where he's playing. LA Galaxy are a no-body club and where well before Beckham signed tell me you haven't heard of them now and I'll shut up.

The Americans gave him 128M over 5 years why??? mickey mouse team, mickey mouse league (sorry to our american friends) and they reckon they could get it back just in merchandising.

I even see Galaxy shirts in our country how many other american football (or football) shirts do you see for sale in our country??

It wouldn't matter if Beckham played for Leigh RMI they'd still make millions out of the merchandising.

David Beckham is known and idolised all over the world no sports man has ever had the impact he has, It would change or club for the better finacially and footballing wise.

If Sam can persuade Anelka to Bolton then he stands a chance with Becks to Rovers, Beckham is desperate to go to SA its his last chance to win it and its one of the few things he hasn't won, no-one else is making a move so why not ask. Was it not last year that when Bentley went I thought the club asked if the weasle wanted Becks?

EDIT: now I'm boarding on lunacy, nice. Best get myself to strawberry fields then.

[Kelbo]

Not only that, but the Madrid PR machine will be used to squeezing every penny out of the global market for their megastars.

We, on the other hand, probably wouldn't have the first clue where to begin. People aren't just going to come and give us money for having David Beckham.

Loaning him is a complete non-starter (why does anyone think we can?!)...thinking we could actually do so and make a profit out of it is bordering on lunacy!

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Hand in front of face!! bloody hell, glad you are not in business!!

You get someone who can do the PR and do it well!!

If you have a top product and you need sales, you sign up a top sales exec to sell it!!

You dont try and do it yourself, you will fail, unless you are a top sales exec yourself!

Beckham didnt market himself, he's not capable, he has a publicist and marketing people!!

[American]

He signed for Man Utd.

Then Chelsea claimed to have an agreement with Mikels club, FC Lyn that he was to become a Chelsea player when eligible for it.

A whole saga which finally took Mikel to Chelsea and lead the director of FC Lyn getting a suspended sentence of 1 year jailtime for contract forgery.

Didn't Chelsea have to pay Utd about 12 million for him, though?

[Stuart]

It's a nice change from the usual grim pessimism on the board.

Grooooaaan, long ball next season.

Grooooaaan, we need a midfielder.

Etc.

I know what you mean. But much of the groaning comes about because people's expectations are set to high. So when we don't sign a particular player or settle for someone who is deemed not to be good enough, the moaning and arguing starts.

The idea of Becks rolling up at Ewood is the very epitome of that.

What we need is something in between the two where we are a little more pragmatic about our situation and get behind the team (including the incumbant manager waggy) and look towards the positives with a heavy dose of realism.

There's no reason why an unfashionable squad like ours can't do what Fulham or Wigan did last year. Hell we've been doing exactly that for years! And we don't need misplaced longings for David golden nuts Beckham to do so, or disappointment when we "didn't even try" to bring him in - even on loan.

Rant over! Can't wait for the season to start...

[Kelbo]

I know what you mean. But much of the groaning comes about because people's expectations are set to high. So when we don't sign a particular player or settle for someone who is deemed not to be good enough, the moaning and arguing starts.

The idea of Becks rolling up at Ewood is the very epitome of that.

What we need is something in between the two where we are a little more pragmatic about our situation and get behind the team (including the incumbant manager waggy) and look towards the positives with a heavy dose of realism.

There's no reason why an unfashionable squad like ours can't do what Fulham or Wigan did last year. Hell we've been doing exactly that for years! And we don't need misplaced longings for David golden nuts Beckham to do so, or disappointment when we "didn't even try" to bring him in - even on loan.

Rant over! Can't wait for the season to start...

Quite incorrect, its a sensible business proposition, on a much smaller scale, a few years ago, Burnley signed Ian Wright, the commercial side paid his wages and made money for the club!

Sometimes, you need to look at the whole picture and go for it, tell you what, we can offer Beckham something he wants and none of the top five would give him, a central Midfield spot!!

[Veevs]

Wonder what Milners value will be at the moment.. Villa having signed Delph and looking at Warnock, does that not leave Milner (BFS was a milner fan I believe) out in the cold (Young/Delph/Downing/Milner are all basically left wing/left mid players) and even possibly a potential player in a swap deal?

Why is it some managers are going to extremes filling their squads with the same type of players.. I am utterly confused...

[Aberdeen Blue]

I was going to post something re DB but then woke up. Jog on people for f'sake

[LeChuck]

Wonder what Milners value will be at the moment.. Villa having signed Delph and looking at Warnock, does that not leave Milner (BFS was a milner fan I believe) out in the cold (Young/Delph/Downing/Milner are all basically left wing/left mid players) and even possibly a potential player in a swap deal?

Why is it some managers are going to extremes filling their squads with the same type of players.. I am utterly confused...

Milner is a right sided player and Delph is a central midfielder...

Either way, wasn't Milner called up to the England squad last season? He was very good for Villa last year, they won't want to sell, and even if they did he would cost far too much for us.

[beerwins]

Well D day is soon to be upon us no more signings and sam says there is no more money, i have to say i am gutted by this, i love to see the game played and played well, without signing a creative midfielder i believe we are in for some sad stuff if you like the beautiful game.

Dont get me wrong im not blaming sam with the crocks we have, i never expected to sign another player in midfielduntil we got shot of some, were not exactly going to sell someone (unless you count a bid from fulham for andrews) we have enough midfielders, its just a shame there not reliable or good enough.

I pay for my season ticket for a few reason to see an enjoyable game of football and to see my team win, im feeling with the setup we have im only going to see 1 out of the 2 and that will not be often enough.

And just for the record there are so many people moaning about doombringers and whiners and people of negative thought, WAS OUR MIDFIELD GOOD ENOUGH LAST YEAR ?? BECAUSE ITS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME THIS YEAR. Its not called whinging its called having a valid opinion.

If you answer honestly you have to say our midfield was turd and whats is going to change? A young lad and a couple of squad wingers are going to set the world alight, I dont think so. If you think our midfield was good enough you dont know bugger all about football, even preseason there seems to be a lack of retention in midfield.

I was hoping to see my team entertaining but in the modern days climate and the financial way of the prem league i dont see it happening, blackburn must do what they need to do. I hope to god the spanish league makes it to the top again if i can see my team play FOOTBALL again.

[S15]

Wow this thread has really gone to s**t now we've signed a couple of forwards and Nixon has gone for a lie down.

[saxo1man30]

just like to add, i too get highly annoyed at the beckham/scholes/giggs to rovers nonsense. if you love them so much, go and support the clubs they play for. rovers fans should want to see us buy and produce future stars, not bring in has-beens that nowadays get their performances totally overrated by starstruck media sheep(bryan robson was the same when he`d actually become a liability to united). there`s a reason those players appear effective at their age still, they play in quality sides that allows them space and time on the ball and can compensate for the deficiancies in their game now. at rovers they wouldn`t get that and they`d simply be hustled to the point of frustration, and be totally ineffective and detremental to us. as sam has stated, we have enough senior players. what we need and are thankfully getting is youthful enthusiastic players with a long term future to think of in the game.