[Archived] Blackburn Rovers Transfer Topic

[G Somerset Rover]

Been looking at spud sites and saw this

Simular story but different slant to it ...

So make of it what you will

That's certainly different from what I've heard..I'd not heard anything about the agents.

Basically, without wishing to get my friend into any trouble, 'Arry wants someone else - not Bassong or Samba, but may not be able to pursue it for certain reasons. It's somebody that you really wouldn't expect.

I have no idea if this means that he will come in for Samba at some stage should his main target not come off, but Samba certainly isn't his number one option right now.

[Jackson]

I'm sure this isn't the first time Smaba and his agent have tried to pimp themselves off.

[47er]

Personally I like Big Samba but I have said before for the £250k we paid for him 18 months ago to make over £9.5m profit would just be silly to turn down, if he goes I would like us to go for Mancienne at Chelsea excellent prospect for the future already been called up to the England first team

A thick wad of note can't actually play football. Why is it good business to make over 9.5M? Which business are we in--------cashing in on our assets for financial reasons or playing football?

The manager won't get the the 10M, Spurs will be strengthened whereas we know they are currently in the deep stuff at the back and we'll be frantically trying to fill the gap with an over the hill star of yesteryear. What's the bloody point? We have a good centre-back, we need a good centre-back------------end of story (unless we get Bentley + big cash which we won't.

[Amo]

If he is to be sold, then a deadline needs to be set to allow us time to find a replacement. Perhaps Sam would go back for Abdoulaye Faye.

[neophox]

Replace Faye with Samba....hehe noway...that would be stupidity and totally crazy!

[Hughesy]

Bentley is rarely out injured, infact with us I can never remember a spell out of the team due to injury. Your talk about last season is worthless Hughesy, absolutely worthless, as we all know Bentley fell out of favour at Spurs. Bentley is the ONLY player since Beckham hasn't been a England regular to have shown himself capable of filling those boots with good performances for his country.

Samba may dominate against your average, immobile Premiership centre forward, but up against anyone with a bit of class his flaws start to show. He's not in the top brand of centre halfs in the league, and never will be. The goal Defoe scored at Pompey last year, when he looked one way (Samba lunged) and ran the other summed him up. All the attributes, minus mobility and he's pretty dim.

This isn't me saying he's no good, as I don't think this, but he's no superstar, and the values some of you lot are throwing around really make me wonder what wonders you guys must see on a daily basis.

Its not superstar values - its market value for a good centre half this summer.

Is Samba better than Bassong?

Why is last season not important? We have seen Samba playing as a top centre half in that time, we havent seen much from Bentley......If he's so good, why hasnt he forced Lennon out of that team?

Why pick out the defoe point? Is that when we were bottom of the league under Ince? Was the whole team playing well? Im sure we could pick out many other key 'good' points, like when Samba won us crucial points! Oh and while we are on it......where was Bentley at this time?!

And there it is in a nutshell, Hughsey laughing at someone elses valuations.

What do you expect when you say you would pay Samba + £5m for Bentley!?!?

[A cup of beans]

I find it astonishing that someone might consider Beckham's set pieces to be 'extremely poor'

the vast majority of beckham's set pieces come to nothing. his scoring rate from freekicks is minimal compared to the number that he takes. there were statistics on this a year or so.

[brian_gallagher85]

The thing about setting a deadline for selling Samba to give us time to get a replacement in isn't really an issue as we have already signed Givet. If we do sell him I don't see us bringing anyone else in in that position.

That said I can't see us selling him unless we get offered stupid money, i.e. a RSC type fee.

[den]

Thing is Den, it's the waythings go for us. The beauty is, none of our prize assets are good enough to be 'irreplacable,' and we usually get given more money than the player is worth. People will shout and scream, but Samba isn't a £10m player,just as Santa Cruz/ Bentley/ Duff aren't £17m players (The latter should have been).

So you would be happy to let Samba, Warnock, RSC and Derbs go this season? Or is there a time when you say "no"?

[LeChuck]

Every single time we've sold our 'star' player, we've been worse off the next season. This season could be the first one to buck that trend.

I have to say though...Bentley + £5 million would be very tempting, especially if Robert Huth is really available for about £2 million...

Jacobsen Nelsen Givet Warnock

..........Grella....N'Zonzi

.....Diouf....Bentley...Pedersen

.................Kalinic

Must say, I like that...

[Al]

Every single time we've sold our 'star' player, we've been worse off the next season. This season could be the first one to buck that trend.

I have to say though...Bentley + £5 million would be very tempting, especially if Robert Huth is really available for about £2 million...

Jacobsen Nelsen Givet Warnock

..........Grella....N'Zonzi

.....Diouf....Bentley...Pedersen

.................Kalinic

Must say, I like that...

No place for Di Santo?

[novella]

I think Sam would reject any bids for Samba this late in the window. He is exactly the type of player Sam wants here, tall, powerful, sweeps up everything.

[Sparky Marky]

If Samba goes, then Sam needs to go for abdouleye faye at Stoke....

[Amo]

Every single time we've sold our 'star' player, we've been worse off the next season. This season could be the first one to buck that trend.

I have to say though...Bentley + £5 million would be very tempting, especially if Robert Huth is really available for about £2 million...

Jacobsen Nelsen Givet Warnock

..........Grella....N'Zonzi

.....Diouf....Bentley...Pedersen

.................Kalinic

Must say, I like that...

I'd play Bentley out wide, and then choose two holding midfielders (in the event that Dunn is unavailable). As rover6 was saying the other day, a decent winger takes a lot of pressure off the centre-mids. When we had Bellamy, we often used to just smack it down the line for him to chase, creating space for other players.

[Oklahoma]

If they want Samba, make them pay £20 million. That would be enough to secure a replacement for him.

And no Bentley back, please. He would be a disaster...

[JamieUK]

How many pages of crap this morning based on an article in The Sun... The same paper which said we'd been rejected by Ghilas and were abouts to go for a player who's name escapes me despite already having Kalinic & di Santo lined up?

edit - just remembered - It was Benjani. This was on Monday morning.

[wandel77]

Really struggling to see why we would sell if our two unproven strikers are not up to it then we are going to need our defence to be rock solid to even stand a chance of staying up. Nelsen i not getting any younger and has had injury problems. We have an injury prone untested right back and some are wanting to sell chris at a price that is not close to his value to us.

How do you know Jacobsen is injury prone ? He had his Shoulder dislocated in a very bad way last year, which took him 6 months to be normal again. Im sick of people telling me that he is injury prone, i can tell he is not injury prone. A player who is very injury prone must be Steven Reid, has he played 10 matches for the last 3 seasons ?

Stats on Jacobsen.

Everton 2008 - 09 League 4 (1) 0

FA Cup 0 (1) 0

FC Copenhagen 2006 - 07 League 27 (0)

FC Copenhagen 2005 - 06 League 38 (0)

Euro Cups 4 (0) 0

FC Copenhagen 2004 - 05 League 16 (0)

Hamburg 2003 - 04 League 5 (4) 0

I know there is missing a season, but he was out of favaour in Germany where he played for Hannover as i recall.

I think this shows that he is not injury prone !!!

I just have to let some steam out ! :-)

[joey_big_nose]

Don't try and insult me by suggesting Samba is a higher calibre of player than Bentley, because, quite bluntly, he's not.

I personally would say Samba is a better player than Bentley.

He is better at centreback than Bentley is at either right wing or second striker which are his two main positions.

A player should be judged on how well they perform at the position they regularly play at. It a close run thing, but if you take last seasons form into account Samba is ahead of Bentley in value certainly.

[BRFC1995]

10 million for samba seems too good for Rovers to refuse.........

mix feelings on this......... cause its 10 mil!!!!!!!!!

can't Spurs top it up to 15 mil, then it is a no brainer..........

its not even close to his true value...........bent 15m says it all, center halves as good as samba are rarer than run of the mill mark bright esque strikers!

[LeChuck]

No place for Di Santo?

He's only here until January, I can't see us planning a long-term first eleven with him in it.

Personally I think he's just here to take a bit of the pressure off Kalinic for the first few months, strikers can often struggle to start scoring straight away at new clubs.

[mellison24]

And there it is in a nutshell, Hughsey laughing at someone elses valuations.

Swap the L and T in ur username and that is why your valuation of samba is pathetic. How could you sell one of our best (if not THE best) players by GIVING him AND money to TOTTENHAM??? The way they spend means we should DEMAND no less than 15million for Samba. As sum1 higher up mentioned: When a fans fave like samba leaves, the club loses more than just 'a player'.

[riggers77]

Personally I think Givet is our best centre half and that would make either nelsen or samba a back up option. Getting ten millon for a could be back up option, spending a little on another on back up centre half and the majority on a creative midfielder seems to make a lot of sense to me.

But i agree with one of the posts above it was in the sun so means very little and not worth worrying about.

[Gav]

Every single time we've sold our 'star' player, we've been worse off the next season.

Spot on that, you can't sell your best players and improve the side the following season for sure.

Warnock and Samba need to be retained at all costs as far as I'm concerned. Warnock can play a bit of football and should be retained if only for that reason.

But watching the defense at Sheffield on Saturday was like watching the key stone cops, maybe Allardyce thinks he needs to do something about that.

[broadsword]

After getting 18 mill for Santa Cruz, turning a profit on Bellamy, Friedel, Bentley ... I think people are addicted to seeing how much money we can get for players now.

It's almost as if we've given up hoping to improve on the pitch, for trying to improve the bank balance.

[Manc Rover]

How many pages of crap this morning based on an article in The Sun... The same paper which said we'd been rejected by Ghilas and were abouts to go for a player who's name escapes me despite already having Kalinic & di Santo lined up?

edit - just remembered - It was Benjani. This was on Monday morning.

Spot on!